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I know I should return something when I find it. But I found this cell phone on the ground the screen is cracked and won't display anything but it still works to make and recieve calls. Its a Nokia 6030
Anyways being the super sleuth that I am I found out who owns the phone, the phone's number, the person's home phone, name, etc.
The phone service is still active on the phone.
So my question is, Legally can I use the phone to make calls etc. until they cancel their service on that phone? I mean its like finders keepers if they didn't protect themselves by suspending the service can I make calls until they do?
I'm not planning on being a dick about it or anything and running up a huge bill. I just want to use it for the time being until I get my own phone.
I know there is no law that says I have to return anything I find, but can I use their service?
EDIT- Poll on the bottom of this page, read through before you vote.
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seriously, i'd just call em up and give it back. karma man.
and yes that sounds kind of illegal.
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On February 21 2007 13:41 AmorVincitOmnia wrote:
seriously, i'd just call em up and give it back. karma man.
and yes that sounds kind of illegal.
karma indeed. and yea, you can get in trouble for something. somoene did this with my bros phone n we got cops
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On February 21 2007 13:41 AmorVincitOmnia wrote:
seriously, i'd just call em up and give it back. karma man.
and yes that sounds kind of illegal.
On February 21 2007 13:43 j0ehoe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2007 13:41 AmorVincitOmnia wrote:
seriously, i'd just call em up and give it back. karma man.
and yes that sounds kind of illegal. karma indeed. and yea, you can get in trouble for something. somoene did this with my bros phone n we got cops
I don't care about karma, I just care if I can get arrested.
I didn't steal it though, my friend's mom found it on the ground. I know they can look at their bill and see who was called and stuff. What did the cops do to the person who used the phone?
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Unless there is tracking on it, you can probably get away with using it for normal use until the people realize they've lost their phone and cancel the service. If you just want the phone and not the service you can just take out the SIM card.
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On February 21 2007 13:43 CharlieMurphy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2007 13:41 AmorVincitOmnia wrote:
seriously, i'd just call em up and give it back. karma man.
and yes that sounds kind of illegal. I don't care about karma, I just care if I can get arrested.
ok well i don't think you'd get ARRESTED, but they could probably take you to court if they really felt like it.
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Yes, it's illegal. The calls you make are going to that persons bill. Thus you are then stealing. Return it.
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haha~~
stop being an asshole and give it back
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On February 21 2007 13:43 decafchicken wrote:
Unless there is tracking on it, you can probably get away with using it for normal use until the people realize they've lost their phone and cancel the service. If you just want the phone and not the service you can just take out the SIM card. I know that, The phone sucks i'd return that in a heartbeat.
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The exact same thing happended to me on a train. I called "Dad" on the phone and apparently the phone belonged to a little girl on the other side of the country who had dropped it when she was traveling home alone. I sent it back to her by mail.
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i foudn a phone at school once and i thought it was mine
apparently the jingle went to candy shop instead of the t-jingle
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On February 21 2007 13:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Yes, it's illegal. The calls you make are going to that persons bill. Thus you are then stealing. Return it.
Yes, but any smart person would suspend the service for the SIM card. If they don't turn it off its their fault. If they just leave it on and wait for someone to use the service thats like entrapment. Besides I don't have to return the phone. I just don't have to use their sim card.
I have lost my phone before and had it returned and I didn't give that person shit. Why should I go out of my way and return it to them (especially since a normal person would not have been able to figure out who owned the phone)?
Man I wish I knew some Law people who weren't biased towards karma and 'doing the right thing'.
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On February 21 2007 13:47 CharlieMurphy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2007 13:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Yes, it's illegal. The calls you make are going to that persons bill. Thus you are then stealing. Return it. Yes, but any smart person would suspend the service for the SIM card. If they don't turn it off its their fault. If they just leave it on and wait for someone to use the service thats like entrapment. I have lost my phone before and had it returned and I didn't give that person shit. Why should I go out of my way and return it to them (especially since a normal person would not have been able to figure out who owned the phone)?
i lose my phone constantly. i'm so bad with it, i don't know what it is about cell phones but they just dissapear when they come into my possesion. i also keep all my numbers in the phone books of said phones. i have like maybe 3 numbers memorized, so when i lose my phone i lose all those numbers and it takes like 3 months to get the majority of them back.
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gee Murphy you already come off as being a dick already who is immoral so why ask us Mr. Common Sense?
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Who cares if it's stupid on their part. The simple truth is that it's not your phone, not your services and if you use it, you're to blame. That's like leaving your wireless unprotected and then having your neighbor say "Well, you left it unprotected, not my fault".
Bullshit.
Return the phone or put it back where you found it.
And no, it's not legal. Unauthorized use if memory serves.
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u should return it, they could give u a reward. its a good thing to do, dont be stupid plz.
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On February 21 2007 13:47 CharlieMurphy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2007 13:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Yes, it's illegal. The calls you make are going to that persons bill. Thus you are then stealing. Return it. Yes, but any smart person would suspend the service for the SIM card. If they don't turn it off its their fault. If they just leave it on and wait for someone to use the service thats like entrapment. Besides I don't have to return the phone. I just don't have to use their sim card. I have lost my phone before and had it returned and I didn't give that person shit. Why should I go out of my way and return it to them (especially since a normal person would not have been able to figure out who owned the phone)? Man I wish I knew some Law people who weren't biased towards karma and 'doing the right thing'.
why are you so defensive, we're telling you it's wrong and illegal --;
if you just want to know "can i get away with it" then.... probably yes you could
should you? probably not
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On February 21 2007 13:47 CharlieMurphy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2007 13:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Yes, it's illegal. The calls you make are going to that persons bill. Thus you are then stealing. Return it. Yes, but any smart person would suspend the service for the SIM card. If they don't turn it off its their fault. If they just leave it on and wait for someone to use the service thats like entrapment. Besides I don't have to return the phone. I just don't have to use their sim card. I have lost my phone before and had it returned and I didn't give that person shit. Why should I go out of my way and return it to them (especially since a normal person would not have been able to figure out who owned the phone)? Man I wish I knew some Law people who weren't biased towards karma and 'doing the right thing'.
are you kidding me? because you are an asshole doesn't mean everyone is. twisted logic ftw -_-
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On February 21 2007 13:54 ~AreS] wrote:
Who cares if it's stupid on their part. The simple truth is that it's not your phone, not your services and if you use it, you're to blame. That's like leaving your wireless unprotected and then having your neighbor say "Well, you left it unprotected, not my fault".
Bullshit.
Return the phone or put it back where you found it.
Ok, I think this can be considered theft of services if I make calls with their SIM. There is no law saying I have to give any of the hardware back though. Maybe I should start calling them and bugging them to see how smart they are.
Ok new poll:
Poll: What to do?
(Vote): Use the phone, fuck it.
(Vote): Return it and hope for a reward.
(Vote): Scrap the phone, don't use their service.
(Vote): Prank call them to high hell
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