EPTNot only are they being billed while you're benefiting from the service, you clearly have means to contact the original owner.
How stupid you think they are, or how someone else might have reacted in this situation is completely irrelevant.
Legality Question - Page 3
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BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
Not only are they being billed while you're benefiting from the service, you clearly have means to contact the original owner. How stupid you think they are, or how someone else might have reacted in this situation is completely irrelevant. | ||
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EnergyBlast
United States61 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
I live in California This phone is a cheapy 20$ one and its broken anyways. Phone details It can't be considered larceny can it? If I just ditch the SIM card and keep the phone but not use their service? | ||
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iCmB
France525 Posts
Find it is not a crime. Use it is one. It reminds me my grandma lost her phone. It lasted days before she was aware of it (Thank god, it was the dog who stole it). So saying that as the SIM Card was not blocked, you can use it. It is simply a wrong excuse. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On February 21 2007 14:32 iCmB wrote: Well, you know... it is the same as finding some lost credit card... Find it is not a crime. Use it is one. It reminds me my grandma lost her phone. It lasted days before she was aware of it (Thank god, it was the dog who stole it). So saying that as the SIM Card was not blocked, you can use it. It is simply a wrong excuse. Actually its not even close to being the same. But I get your point. I think I'll call them and talk to them. | ||
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IdiotWind
Canada321 Posts
Return the phone you douche. Keeping it is THEFT because you know who owns it. THEFT IS WRONG. Didn't your parents teach you anything? | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On February 21 2007 14:37 IdiotWind wrote: Finders Keepers may apply on the schoolground (perhaps where you spend your time?) but it certainly does not apply in real life. Return the phone you douche. Keeping it is THEFT because you know who owns it. THEFT IS WRONG. Didn't your parents teach you anything? My parents were killed when I was 3. Thanks for your enlightening information that I was not aware of. Maybe you should read through a thread before you decide to post. I also like how you implied I hang out at the school ground. That was very creative. | ||
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11595 Posts
This is what will happen if you don't return it | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On February 21 2007 14:52 CaucasianAsian wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=40612 This is what will happen if you don't return it I am well aware of the girl who FOUND a sidekick. This is part of the reason why I asked about the legality of this. | ||
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
On February 21 2007 13:44 jtan wrote: stop being an asshole and give it back | ||
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Oxygen
Canada3581 Posts
On February 21 2007 13:47 CharlieMurphy wrote: Yes, but any smart person would suspend the service for the SIM card. If they don't turn it off its their fault. If they just leave it on and wait for someone to use the service thats like entrapment. Besides I don't have to return the phone. I just don't have to use their sim card. I have lost my phone before and had it returned and I didn't give that person shit. Why should I go out of my way and return it to them (especially since a normal person would not have been able to figure out who owned the phone)? Man I wish I knew some Law people who weren't biased towards karma and 'doing the right thing'. A 'normal' person? You are the lesser person, no matter how amazing and intelligent and modest you are, if you use your 'prowess' to figure out the person's identity, and don't return the phone. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12240 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
If the roles were reversed, YOU would want the phone returned, no calls made grow a pair and stop thinking about yourself for once. | ||
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
On February 21 2007 14:26 CharlieMurphy wrote: Finally someone who has something important to contribute to the thread. Thanks Brood. I live in California This phone is a cheapy 20$ one and its broken anyways. Phone details It can't be considered larceny can it? If I just ditch the SIM card and keep the phone but not use their service? Seriously! If everone was this egoistic the world would be total shit | ||
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Ganfei1
China667 Posts
On February 21 2007 13:47 CharlieMurphy wrote: Yes, but any smart person would suspend the service for the SIM card. If they don't turn it off its their fault. If they just leave it on and wait for someone to use the service thats like entrapment. Besides I don't have to return the phone. I just don't have to use their sim card. I have lost my phone before and had it returned and I didn't give that person shit. Why should I go out of my way and return it to them (especially since a normal person would not have been able to figure out who owned the phone)? Man I wish I knew some Law people who weren't biased towards karma and 'doing the right thing'. You're obviously kind of stupid. "I wish I knew some "Law people" "I don't care if I'm being an asshole I only care if it's illegal" "It's like entrapment if they are too stupid to cancel their SIM card" Oh ok, I guess it's also entrapment when someone leaves their car window open accidentally and you can unlock it and hotwire the car to steal it, but it has a GPS system in it so they can track you to find out who the fuck stole their car. Why don't you stop being a dumbass and go pay for your own phone, or buy a fucking phone card for $10 with 200 minutes on it, or use internet phone, or something else. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On February 21 2007 15:01 jtan wrote: Seriously! If everone was this egoistic the world would be total shit I'm pretty sure the world is total shit right now and people are this egotistic (GW Bush?) On February 21 2007 15:06 Ganfei wrote: You're obviously kind of stupid. "I wish I knew some "Law people" "I don't care if I'm being an asshole I only care if it's illegal" "It's like entrapment if they are too stupid to cancel their SIM card" Oh ok, I guess it's also entrapment when someone leaves their car window open accidentally and you can unlock it and hotwire the car to steal it, but it has a GPS system in it so they can track you to find out who the fuck stole their car. Why don't you stop being a dumbass and go pay for your own phone, or buy a fucking phone card for $10 with 200 minutes on it, or use internet phone, or something else. Nothing I said sounded stupid. Your reading comprehension is terrible if you think otherwise. Its totally different than hot-wiring a car, what the fuck are you talking about? | ||
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
On February 21 2007 13:47 CharlieMurphy wrote: I have lost my phone before and had it returned and I didn't give that person shit. Why should I go out of my way and return it to them (especially since a normal person would not have been able to figure out who owned the phone)? I find this incredibly fucked up. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
Which so far makes sense that I can not legally use it, and I won't. A major factor in my decision making is that fact that these people who were careless enough to lose their cellphone and not turn off the service might just be some rich pricks who don't give a damn about anyone else. Why should I give a damn about them? The other thing is that my GF got her car window smashed and her purse was stolen out of her car. The purse had 50 bucks in it, all her makeup and her IDs (including her social security card). They then created a T-Mobil account with her name and proceeded to make all kinds of middle of the night tweeker phone calls and the bill was sent to her. The police haven't done shit for her so far, which really pisses me off. It pisses me off even more that in order to make a phone account there is a credit check and they MUST take a copy of the persons ID, and it obviously wasn't her. T-mobil is a bunch of fucking money hungry (commission) retards. | ||
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
On February 21 2007 15:18 CharlieMurphy wrote: I'm pretty sure the world is total shit right now and people are this egotistic (GW Bush?) There are different levels of shittyness. I'm sure only a few percent of the population would act in the way you are suggesting | ||
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