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Tictock
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/in Here is to hoping I'm not a train wreak at it ^.^ | ||
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On April 23 2015 06:49 kitaman27 wrote: Maybe this thread might be a good place to start? Or you can just give into your temptations and join blindly  Pretty much what I did.  | ||
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Oh well, I'll still have time... just not as much. | ||
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I am a total Mafia noob. Never played a game in my life and until recently never piqued my interest. I've been on TL for a few years now and have seen the Mafia section plenty of times, so when I decided to try my hand at the game I naturally came here. So, given my newbishness, while I have read the thread up to this point (you guys were busy while I slept) I'm not too sure what to make of things. The suspicion around scott seems to have merit, but I will have to do a more thorough read of what transpired when I get some time. I expect I should be done with work by midday and will be more active then. | ||
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A couple reads of the thread thus far have left me with the following read/feels. -Celestial- A pretty clear town read. The initial reads are all very clear with good reasoning. While there is a bit of tunneling happening on scott celestial has given clear reasons why. scott31337 Seems scummy for sure. I can looks past the initial voting stuff,to an extent, but the reactions to the pressure do not read as town to me at all. Fecalfeast I was originally going to give FF a town read as he seems active and engadged, but looking at his filter I find nothing solid in his posts. That puts him neutral for me, with maybe just a hint of scum. I'll have to dig through more filters to see if I can get more reads. I have a hard time putting much stock into my D1 reads with the level of fluff posts and pressure plays, but I'll keep posting about what is standing out to me. | ||
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On May 04 2015 04:11 Fecalfeast wrote: alright tick tock time to fight what are you got what makes me scum you say I have nothing in my posts so you're saying I have no reads... I could go to my computer and show you my spreadsheet if you like If you have reads I don't see you sharing them. Your active and posting lots of stuff, but out of the 4 pages of your filter I can only find a post or two that adds to real discussion. Might just be the early game fluff talk outweighing your few questions and discussions. | ||
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On May 04 2015 04:09 Stutters695 wrote: FF is so clearly town it's unreal that you think he's neutral/slightly scummy. What makes him clearly town to you? | ||
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I'm getting pretty strong town vibes from y0su, disformation, and ritoky. I really like disformation's attempts to poke and ask questions. y0su is my weakest read of these 3, but feels like a solid town. Everyone else... well there simply isn't enough out of prplhz or sicklucker to really go off of. Not much to go off of Stutters695 either, another person who states he "doesn't do day 1" which is pretty meh but NAI. Pretty much all I got for now. | ||
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On May 04 2015 04:34 Stutters695 wrote: I really can't say exactly due to ongoing game. Scum FF posts often, but much less poignantly. Read some of his previous scum games and compare that to p4 of his filter here. This reasoning doesn't work for me. It would give me questionable info to try and build meta reads for people off old games. Questionable because it could or could not have any bearing on this game and I wouldn't have that much confidence in trying to build my own meta read in such a short time. Suffice it to say that I am not a fan of useing meta reads, and will just straight up not accept that a meta read is strong enough to say anyone is "clearly" anything. | ||
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On May 04 2015 05:37 Half the Sky wrote: Can you define what you mean by "vibes" particularly with y0su and ritoky? Do you mean a tone read (which to my understanding most consider weak) or was there a particular quote/page/interaction that solidifies them as town? Tone read is probably what I mean, but I'll elaborate. y0su seems to be trying to take everything in, he is asking questions and is staying somewhat active. Actually he is fairly active because very little of his posts are fluff and generally they add to the discussion. On May 04 2015 02:41 y0su wrote: well, that's the problem, look at the biggest back and forth we've had: -c- vs scott. -c- came in with what I feel was a very bold 1st post (list) that bugged me. why would he pick 3 scum out of the active players and and let others slide just because he didn't have a read (afk/low post count)? he had some decent points, but was it all to put on pressure or to start swaying people? without experience, it doesn't feel like something town would do (and this is -c-'s 2nd game afaik) that followed into the rather aggressive finger pointing with scott. I had a weird feel from him from the start and non of what -c- said helped him... but again it just feels like "an easy target" to try to get people to bandwagon. ...but all that leaves me is not wanting to vote for either one (yet). That post is probably his strongest Town post imo. He isn't taking -c-'s reads and running with them, rather he is actively looking at them from other angles to decide if -c- is actually town modivated here. As for ritoky, his initial posts don't hold any real value but the last page and a half of his filter looks like solid town discussion to me. I could quote a few of his posts here but I think a look through his recent filter will show you what I'm seeing. | ||
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On May 04 2015 08:34 Fecalfeast wrote: tictock calls me out for not having reads or substance, show my reads and tictock doesn't care. One shade minus Actually... On May 04 2015 04:40 Fecalfeast wrote: So tictock, I'm enjoying myself outside reading. I'm not going to show my list of people right now but i read you town atm. I really like that you're not tunneling me and questioning the ezpz town reads on me. That shows you're looking at the bigger picture, imo. On May 04 2015 05:26 Fecalfeast wrote: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xpbh2kk.png) ask questions about whoever I have to shower and prepare for work I find it a little interesting you change your mind about sharing your list pretty quickly there, probably NAI but interesting. Also, making sure I'm looking at this right, you currently have scott and prp as your scummiest reads. Do you have anything other than inactivity for your prp read? Any noteworthy changes to that list since you posted it? | ||
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As for Superbia, I'm having a hard time getting a solid read now. I was getting a scum vibe from his play the first half of D1 here but he is looking more town here near the end of the day. I want to keep an eye on him but atm he doesn't seem like a good lynch. prplhz is looking pretty scum to me right now too. He made one post with actual content and even that was mostly an excuse as to why he isn't posting. Scott put himself in a position where he looked pretty bad, but lately he's bee making an effort and seems fairly calm given the suspicions around him. That feels town to me, he's not ignoring what ppl say about him but he's not focused on defending himself either. prp and HtS really need to contribute, SL and Stutters are also barely active & have contributed nothing solid thus far. | ||
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On May 04 2015 15:38 Fecalfeast wrote: i explained it in the same post why I wasn't sharing my list. I was outside reading, among other activities. Ah I see, you started a new sentence so I assumed you not wanting to post your list and reading outside were separate thoughts. Like I said it felt NAI but was wondering if something made you change your mind. Disregard. | ||
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Scott is still the most appealing case, even though I have some doubts. I'm tempted to make a case against prp but there just isn't enough to go on. I just don't like his dismissive post regarding how he "spams town" normally and says he isn't around. If he is legit too busy to play a town would likely replace, this seems more like a scum excuse to skate by day 1. Unfortunately that's all I have as prp, as well as several other ppl, just aren't active enough to make real reads on. | ||
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On May 04 2015 19:46 sicklucker wrote: tictock you can be town. Lets kill them all Lets start with the Mafia, then we can channel that blood-lust elsewhere... | ||
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Besides FF, is there anyone else you think we should lynch today? | ||
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On May 05 2015 01:59 ritoky wrote: looked @ ticktock's filter: this post strikes me as odd...he is having a hard time deciding who to vote for, yet he thinks 1 guy is scum and the other guy is inactive and that's his two top scum reads? seems like not a hard decision there. i don't really understand where his hesitancy is coming from here. My issue here was that the vote on scott felt too easy. It wouldn't add pressure as scott had already seemed to accept he is probably going to be the D1 lynch and would only put me into the "lynch scott" bandwagon. So while that was my obvious vote at the time I did not see that vote giving town any new info. I was pretty tempted, and probably should have just gone with it, to vote for prp to try and pressure him into posting. Probably not the best way to play it out, but that is what was going through my head. In regards to my reads on Shining and Super, I've been having a hard time reading them or at least feeling like i have good reads on them. I'll reread them and catch up on their most recent posts here now. As for the current state of things, I can't get behind a HtS lynch. The reads against her are purely meta-based and I've already stated I wont trust those. scott... man you made yourself look pretty bad early on and at this point there is no denying your going to get lynched. Still I look at your most recent posts and I feel like you are posting genuinely. Why did you give up defending yoourself? | ||
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HtS, I know you asked me about an exchange between Super and -c-, but I'm not sure which you are reffering to atm and don't have time to dig and respond to that right now. Sorry. As I've said, scotts latest posts feel genuine to me. -c- has a pretty solid case but my sense is that -c- joined and jumped on scott's poor play pretty hard. -c- reads as town to me but I think just got tunneled hard on scott. This has left mafia have free reign and has given breathing room to several people who never got pressured into participating due to the focus on scott. In that regard prp finally comes back and jumps onboard the newly formed HtS wagon. Entire argument is from a meta read and is generally just posting shit. I'm sticking with my scum read on him. ##Vote: prplhz | ||
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On May 05 2015 07:59 -Celestial- wrote: CUT THAT A BIT FINE DIDN'T YOU? Also, wasted vote. I know, I was really scrambling. Starting to wonder if I actually have time for this or if just unlucky with my schedule at start. | ||
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