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The Shining
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The Shining
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I was kind of in a rush but yeah, I'm new here, this'll be my first Mafia here. Pleasure to meet you all, I'm pretty happy to have found a place like this. XD Or, well...Soultin found it but semantics, bleh haha. | ||
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The Shining
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The Shining
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And Happy New Year!!! | ||
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The Shining
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*scrambles away from Trfel and hides behind HTS* I'll get you a personal bottle of Bailey's and my family's homegrown Colombian coffee if you keep Trfel from lynching me before the game even starts. D= | ||
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The Shining
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P.S. I'm watching you guys. Trfel and Tube are in cahoots! MUST be scum, killing all the newbies...together. *crowd gasps* | ||
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The Shining
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The Shining is surely not one of those people that Rsoultin recruited. So LS, is the reason you don't have a How To Find Scum Guide yet because you're Scum and the How To Scum Guide is more handy for you? ExO_ Correcting you because you're wrong. She has posted twice.  | ||
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The Shining
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On the other hand, Soultin has already let it go and is now moved on to Silver. How am I to know you're not just going to question every one of us in the hopes of a slip or something that gives away a role? | ||
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The Shining
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"It would help if you clarified who the "someone" you're talking about is and what you're actually wondering. Could they be what?" This was RSoultin's last post at the time I questioned her. At first, I was inclined to believe she was just scumhunting when questioning HTS. But after reading and catching up, I'm leaning towards Celestial as town. Celestial basically said what I would've. It looked like she was looking for others who were different from the rest, and under the guise of town, would just look like scumhunting. The Mafia obviously knows who all is town. By jumping around to multiple people, they increase the chances of blue tells. I also don't know Rsoultin's meta on here at all to know if her town play is more aggressive here than other times I've played with her. However, as the thread progressed, HTS seemed to lean increasingly more scummy, which makes me believe Rsoultin is leaning town, after all. WarWaffle questioned a few things in HTS's opening posts and I've yet to see any sort of response to him, although HTS has posted a few times since. And about me a lot. The more you tunnel on me, the more you hope to deflect from the points WW made about you, is that it? ExO was leaning town for me up until the part where he said I look like scummy and called for the vig, assuming we have one, to kill me tonight. And that was it. ExO, unless you're trying to just bandwagon off of someone else's logic, I would really like to know what about my post made me look scummy? Otherwise, you're just taking advantage of HTS pushing suspicion on me and trying to garner support for it before I can defend myself. Mafia would love it if the vig would do their killing for them. You've also already put in a lynch vote. Why so quick to kill? We're required to lynch Day 1 but we still have a lot of time to gather information. | ||
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The Shining
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After ExO's last post, I'm honestly not convinced and actually much more suspicious of him. His first post was attacking Rsoultin. Instead of waiting to see if he can figure out anything from other posts, his next post is another attack on Jar Jar, which also lead to a Jar Jar fast vote. Then, in the same post that he attacks WarWaffle for stating that he had reads but didn't share them, he gives Tubesock a pass for not giving reads because they'll be crappy reads. On January 05 2015 17:04 ExO_ wrote: Read everything else that was posted just now. I dont like tubesock saying his reads are going to be trash probably, but its day 1 and I think he gets a pass for now. Warwaffle why don't you share some of this amazing information you've discovered already, since you are so great at reading based on phrasing and what not. I think its rather arrogant to sit back and say "I know so much already" without actually saying anything. Also, he says he needs to see more people posting and sharing thoughts but he's only got 4 posts or so in that time, as well. His last post was the attack and quick vote on LS. That is twice in 1 day he has quick voted for people with 0 follow through. Why isn't he more curious about Jar Jar not defending his lynch? He was also suspicious of me. As Town, I'm a bit hesitant to vote a lynch and mistakenly kill another town or power role. Him voting left and right makes it seem like he doesn't care who dies. If anyone's getting my vote right now, it's ExO. | ||
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The Shining
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On January 06 2015 12:56 Tubesock wrote: I need to work on my reading. Do you guys read the bolded as as sheep, or maybe future evidence? | ||
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The Shining
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To HTS: I answered that for you already. You asked where I was getting the "blue-hunting" from and maybe it was just a misunderstanding on my part, but when Rsoultin posted this: On January 05 2015 10:39 rsoultin wrote: It would help if you clarified who the "someone" you're talking about is and what you're actually wondering. Could they be what? At the time, it felt to me like that was her trying to get Silver to elaborate and get a possible free read. If Silver responds with "I'm talking about so and so, could they be -insert power role here-?" it could've given clues as to who is or isn't. Once Silver elaborated that she meant "It makes me curious when Rsoultin is energetically after scum right at the get go. Could they be scum?" I realized I was wrong and that is why I haven't mentioned much of it since. As for sheeping ExO's town read and giving him a scumread in the same post, I was only going off of ExO's own remarks. As he said, Mafia loves to give free town reads to people. At first, HTS was only leaning scum to me for avoiding WW's line of questioning. Once HTS responded, I wasn't quite convinced she's leaning town until ExO gave her a townread and blatantly said she's not a good Day 1 lynch. Since then, she has built decent town cred. How convenient would it be for ExO as scum to side with someone he KNOWS is town? Also, since meta was brought up, I would say throw mine right out the window. As it was mentioned, that game I played as Mafia was very inactive as it is and I never take those very seriously at all. This is quite literally my first time playing an actual serious-setting Mafia where reading posts and getting reads is important, as opposed to sitting back and letting people give themselves away. | ||
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The Shining
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And yes, I still do read ExO as scum. Unfortunately, I feel I may be suffering from the same problem Jar Jar and RSoultin have, and that is being familiar with someone's meta in a different forum. I doubt there is enough time left today to find the thread and post it but I've played with ExO before. More specifically, I've been town while he was mafia, directing day conversations and questioning much like he is in this game, gaining points and town cred with everyone while ultimately leading the town to death. It's too familiar for me not to notice it. I feel I have to stick by my guns, even if it gets me killed. I need WW to elaborate on his claim before I can believe him but I also can not in good conscience vote to lynch. LS was leaning scum with the "let's all be town" theories until he provided examples of his town meta. That, along with ExO voting to kill LS but still "being ok with the WW lynch", shows me that ExO doesn't care who dies. And if ExO thinks someone should die, they probably shouldn't, I won't vote with him. ##Vote: ExO_ | ||
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The Shining
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What happens in case of a lynch tie? Do both die or neither die? | ||
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On January 07 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote: Okay, going to bed for realz. Will read what anyone cares to post here in the morning. Still want to know your train of thought, Shining. Please explain your votes. Gumdrop, too. Please. (I did read your filter, but I want to hear why you chose to vote outside the main lynches.) And anyone's post-flip impressions would be appreciated as well. Definitely want to hear Silver explain the progression of her reads and JarJar, time to kick in, bro. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and your later posting is better, but now that we have solid evidence I expect you to step up. I have already explained my train of thought on ExO. Let's remember that ExO had WW as a scumread, as well. Where's he been since the flip? My reasoning wasn't so much as WW being scum as the fact that right I after I voted Exo, Jar Jar voted me. That put me up to 3 with WW's 4. WW's drive-by softclaim was something I did NOT want to lynch for. My options would've been vote LS to tie and WW dies, anyway. Leave my wasted vote on ExO and WW dies, anyway. As Mafia, if I thought WW was dying anyway, why would I add myself to the wagon? Once Jar Jar pushed me to 3, I was afraid one of the WW or LS votes would end up on me. Yes, I'm admitting I voted to counter my wagon. In my eyes, it makes more sense for me to save who I know is town rather than a softclaim that I had no faith in. Tube's tunneling on WW and pushing me towards him right before EoD didn't help me stick to my guns on being against WW's lynch, either. After WW flipping blue, I have to say I don't have much faith in LS being Town. I mentioned before that I wasn't a fan of the "let's all be friends, we're all town" mentality. It wasn't until the thread was given meta examples of LS's past town play that I started reading LS as null, slightly town. After the flip and deciding to re-read LS's posts, this was a little troubling to me. On January 08 2015 05:11 LightningStrike wrote: In the past scum usually said something what JarJar and Shining said about a lynch being bad. At least my experience since my first game. So I going all in on Shining and if Shining is scum it wont surprise me a bit. If Shining is town I will be shocked tbh with you. On January 08 2015 06:32 LightningStrike wrote: I just tunelled to hard while I was worried about my mom but at least she is feeling much better now. I just couldn't concentrate at all at the time but WW was way more inactive in the thread that all I remember why I went after WW and also I was liking rsoultins post on why to vote WW too. I so lost right now to be honest with you like maybe one of my town reads is scum this game and I just denying it. I hope Day 2 gives me a fresh start on who is scum and who isn't. In the first post, LS is claiming to be ready to go all-in on me. Next post is a claim of tunneling too hard, which LS did not do(Tube did) and a blatant avoiding of a question. LS did not explain what differentiated WW from me at the time. WW was supposedly way more inactive but had about the same amount of posts as me, plus a blue softclaim. Claims to be sheeping Soultin's post on why to vote WW, when Soultin had already begun pointing fingers at me. LS's thoughts all went from "everyone is town" to only following Soultin's logic, which is clear by scumreading me, then voting WW, then wanting to go all in on me D2 but not stating a single reason as to why, other than sheeping Soultin's paragraph for it. | ||
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The Shining
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On January 08 2015 05:11 LightningStrike wrote: In the past scum usually said something what JarJar and Shining said about a lynch being bad. At least my experience since my first game. So I going all in on Shining and if Shining is scum it wont surprise me a bit. If Shining is town I will be shocked tbh with you. Also, this. My general understanding is that scum wants blue roles dead, as well as town. In what world does not wanting to lynch someone who just softclaimed blue for fear of them telling the truth and losing a blue role mean I'm scum? | ||
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The Shining
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Starting with the votes: On January 07 2015 09:03 kitaman27 wrote: Day 1 Final Vote Count jarjarbinks (1): LightningStrike (2): ExO_, Gumdrop (0): TheWarWaffle (5): rsoultin, LightningStrike, Silverarte, Tubesock, The Shining Tubesock (0): ExO_ (1): Gumdrop, The Shining (3): Half the Sky, Trfel, jarjarbinks TheWarWaffle has been lynched. Mafia have a habit of hiding their team in different spots, especially Day One. They do it on order to not make it obvious that they're banding together. One of those spots was the main wagon. Look at WW's vote list. I'm town reading Soultin, Silver and myself as town and Tube null. I'm going with LS as the Mafia on this wagon. I took a look at the last Student Mafia game and he's displaying the same lack of reads here that he did there. Also, he sheeps constantly onto whatever one person says. In Student Mafia, he did it with batsnacks and here, he's doing it with RSoultin. That, along with Soultin's pressure which I'm now deeming town and the points she puts up, makes Soultin Town in my eyes. LS has offered very little, if anything, to us this game. He went from a big list post where basically everyone was a townread to sheeping scumreads onto myself. Then, he sheeps onto the main wagon in WarWaffle. Also, Mafia like to throw away votes once the main lynch is secured. WW's wagon caught momentum fast. This leaves the LS wagon, which only has WW and ExO, a blue role and a guy who I'm still unsure about but might be willing to give him benefit of the doubt. Then there's ExO with the lone Gumdrop vote. And my wagon, which has a confirmed towny in Trfel, JarJar and HTS. Celestial throwing away that vote on JarJar is really suspicious. That and the very early big post by Celestial that gave out a bunch of free town reads, mine included, a post that wasn't really warranted at the time. As has been mentioned before, Mafia likes to give out free town reads and hide in big posts. They also like to make excuses, which Celestial has done right as EoN and beginning of Day 2 started. The last Mafia is, I think, Jar Jar. Up until now, he's given us nothing of substance minus excuses. The little content he has posted has been recent, and it's another big post that isn't saying much of anything. Then there is this: On January 08 2015 09:20 jarjarbinks wrote: Trfel voted for LS, switched to shining. any thoughts? Are you going to give us your thoughts on this yourself? Or just going to wait for the thread to validate your slow push? Mafia love leaving a little slow push that Town can run with. It's easier to blame the mislynch on town than take the blame for it themselves. | ||
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which is actually less an implication and more an outright statement given my question.
