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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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October 24 2014 21:14 GMT
#4
/in :O
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
October 29 2014 21:19 GMT
#37
Oh, did we start already?

#Vote: [UoN]Sentinel
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
October 30 2014 10:44 GMT
#54
This will be my fourth TL Mafia game. Here's to hoping this one doesn't end up like the last three, where cheating was so rampant the games were ended early, mass bans were handed out, veteran players had mental breakdowns, and moderators were stripped of their positions.

I'm told I got to be a part of the three worst games of TL Mafia ever played.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
October 30 2014 14:43 GMT
#57
On October 30 2014 21:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 19:44 Serejai wrote:
This will be my fourth TL Mafia game. Here's to hoping this one doesn't end up like the last three, where cheating was so rampant the games were ended early, mass bans were handed out, veteran players had mental breakdowns, and moderators were stripped of their positions.

I'm told I got to be a part of the three worst games of TL Mafia ever played.


Funny, I don't remember you on fanfic


I don't even know what that means.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
October 30 2014 14:59 GMT
#60
Oh, my last game was four years ago.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
October 30 2014 21:31 GMT
#80
/confirm
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
October 30 2014 21:32 GMT
#81
Go easy on me, I'm female.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
October 31 2014 10:58 GMT
#93
On October 31 2014 10:11 kushm4sta wrote:
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On October 31 2014 06:32 Serejai wrote:
Go easy on me, I'm female.


will you be my e-girlfriend?


What's in it for me?
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 03 2014 13:02 GMT
#312
Dear Diary,

My name is Jasmine and I am an exchange student from Germany. I am 19 years old.

Today was my first day of class at my new school! It's a small class - only about ten students - but I will try to make it my own. Upon entering the room I noticed there were only three seats left. I decided to sit in the middle seat and I hope to become friends with the two people who sit beside me!

There's not much else to write about at the moment, as I am still meeting my classmates. I hope this will be a good year!

xoxo - Jasmine
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 01:40 GMT
#401
Fecal seems like someone who just went into mafia chat with Elvis and they just decided to start shifting the focus to a new townie after they realized it wasn't working on Superbia.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 02:15 GMT
#405
On November 04 2014 10:56 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 10:40 Serejai wrote:
Fecal seems like someone who just went into mafia chat with Elvis and they just decided to start shifting the focus to a new townie after they realized it wasn't working on Superbia.


What about fecals vote on elvis. if you think they are partners what do you think was going on there.


Random vote for Elvis, immediately followed by a "jk Elvis is cool now in my book for no apparent reason", and then continues to follow elvis around like a lost puppy for the rest of the thread.

Pretty standard bad scum play.

##vote Fecal
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 13:16 GMT
#436
Either Sentinel is scum or Elvis+Fecal are scum.

Still leaning Elvis because of how much he contradicts himself.

Starts off calling out Superbia because "Surely trolly behaviour is typically scum".

Then once Sentinel says the same thing, Elvis suddenly flip-flops and says "so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy... Okay I guess." in sarcasm and proceeds to call Sentinel scum.

I come into the game with a troll post as well and, once again, Elvis does a complete flip-flip and suddenly trolling = obvious scum again.

Don't know how you guys play online mafia but this is pretty cut and dry mafia play for IRL games.

I would put Bresh, Grack, and Sentinel as town at the moment because they're the only ones that seem to notice some of the sketchy posting by Elvis. Lightning is null to me; he may post scummy but surely if he were mafia his teammates would step in and help improve his posting - unless they are intentionally trying to throw him under the bus. If Lightning gets lynched and turns town we should probably look at the people who were pushing for him (coincidentally Elvis is at the top of that list).
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 13:18 GMT
#437
##unvote

##vote Elvis
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 15:28 GMT
#456
On November 04 2014 23:21 Elvis! wrote:

Sooooo you define town solely on people who are "detecting my sketchy play".
Yes, detecting sketchy play and thus hunting scum is what town does.
But there has been sketchy play by quite some people - especially by straight up lying.
So because you tunnel me, any scummy play by people who aren't me is irrelevant to you apparently.
Why don't you define town by them being useful in catching scum. They can and are supposed to question everyone's play including mine, but you can't define town by them tunneling on the same guy as you .


You basically just said "yeah my play is scummy but so are other people so it's not fair to only go after me". Nice scumslip.

You're half right, though; you're not the only person with scum posting. Fecal also has some sketchy posting and - what a coincidence - you two have been sheeping each other. Lightning is also scummy but there are only three mafia, and I'm more convinced you and Fecal are mafia than him, and it wouldn't make sense for you two to go after your third member. For him to be mafia then you and Fecal would need to be town, and I don't see that happening. He's also a very convenient push for you scum tonight because he's a new player and if he comes up as town you can just pull the "well it was an honest mistake, he sounded scummy" card. Free townie out of the game for you.

Cricketer has been AFK the entire game.

batsnacks is scummy as shit as well. He's posted a lot but they are all no-content one-liners, and a quarter of them are just defending Elvis for no apparent reason. Apparently Elvis is in his magical confirmed town circle.

kush is practically AFK, so leaning scum here

Immaterial also seems scummy. His first posts were jumping in to agree that Superbia was scum - "In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia" and claims that he doesn't understand how to play. If you read his later posts, though, they don't read like a new player anymore. He seemed to gain a lot of knowledge on how to play overnight.

The only two people that don't seem scummy are Bresh and Grack; nobody else is really pushing a town agenda. My order of most scummy to least scummy would be:

Elvis
Fecal
batsnacks
Lightning
kush / Immaterial
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 16:58 GMT
#461
I think I'm biased towards scum like you.

You start off the game with Superbia:

I'm voting Superbia because I think he is the scummiest player and deserves to be voted.


You stick hard to this even after everyone else jumps off him. It's not until I call out Elvis that you suddenly switch your vote and start tunneling on me. In fact, you ask Grack who he would rather lynch between me and kush. He tells you kush and you completely ignore it and continue to tunnel on me while also telling everyone to take their votes off Elvis.

Kind of strange that after I call out Elvis as scum you and Fecal both come out of the woodwork and start tunneling me + posting about how innocent Elvis is. Before that neither of you had posted much of anything in the thread.

Gonna stick with you three being the scum team.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 18:32 GMT
#489
##unvote

##vote Cricketer12
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 18:33 GMT
#490
I don't actually think Cricketer12 is mafia but I know I'm town and he's the only person I can throw my vote to at the moment.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 18:34 GMT
#491
I'd actually rather vote for kush over cricket but apparently everyone else is ok with him being AFK.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 18:58 GMT
#497
My vote would still be on Elvis if I had a choice, but I do not; it doesn't seem like anyone else is willing to commit to him.

I would be willing to change my vote to Immaterial as well, and here's why:

This is a player that is new to mafia; his first game. He even states this somewhat at the beginning of the thread by posting that he doesn't understand what tunneling is, and votes for Superbia because everyone else was at the time.

On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote:
In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so:

##vote: superbia

As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange.


He reaffirms that he is a new player by posting that he had to go to some mafia wiki and look up how to play:

On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote:
I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context.


A few hours later he makes a giant post about various people:

On November 04 2014 14:47 Immaterial wrote:
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On November 04 2014 00:55 LightningStrike wrote:
He made some rather strange posts earlier in the thread
On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote:
In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so:

##vote: superbia

As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange.

This is a really strange vote. You want to lynch super but you have no idea why he is scummy?


I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context.

My interpretation of tunneling is that he would just select on person he's convinced is mafia and target them relentlessly (tunnel vision). I don't know if that's the correct interpretation, but my honest read on it was that Superbia's approach in those posts was strange. My vote was based on that combined with some other people's posts.

He seems to be trying to steer us away from the whole fiasco in his next post
On November 03 2014 12:57 Immaterial wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:38 Breshke wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote:
In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so:

##vote: superbia

As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange.

This is a really strange vote. You want to lynch super but you have no idea why he is scummy?


I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context.

My interpretation of tunneling is that he would just select on person he's convinced is mafia and target them relentlessly (tunnel vision). I don't know if that's the correct interpretation, but my honest read on it was that Superbia's approach in those posts was strange. My vote was based on that combined with some other people's posts.


Who's posts, which ones try quote them if you can. What do you think about them because of these posts?


I suppose the main post I'm referring to in regard to Superbia is Kelsier's:

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On November 03 2014 11:07 KelsierSC wrote:
My reasons for super

1. Deliberately tunneling is anti town. You have no desire to solve the game and you make things harder for the rest if town.
2. I looked through his past games. I couldn't find many but i don't see evidence of him tunneling d1 at all so why does he have this tunneling ticket nonsense. just seems like a contrived entry to the thread and not really wanting to solve the game.
3. Also looking through his past games, the recent mafia game of his was very trolly
this again looks like hm setting up to troll and dick around d1.
4. After stating hr is going to hard tunnel on someone he just picks up and leaves the thread


Superbia's initial posts seemed trollish at the very least. He just dropped the posts and bailed from the thread... Maybe he's just busy, but in any case it seems that doing what he did serves little purpose but to instill confusion/chaos among the town. Kelsier's reasoning in the post quoted above regarding Superbia seems sound.

It's very fishy for me with those two posts.


Sorry guys, haven't had a whole lot of time today so I'm just now reading the thread. Time is likely to continue to be tight for me until Thursday due to work obligations.

I see that many people are getting scummy vibes from me, and I understand to a degree. I readily acknowledge that my posts haven't been particularly valuable, and my analysis has been limited. Hopefully I can change the trend by extending this post beyond merely defending myself. But I have to start there:

In response to Lightning's post in particular, you said that I "seem[ed] to be trying to steer us away from the whole fiasco in his next post." In fact, the only reason I made the post in question is that I was prompted by Breshke to explain further. My explanation perhaps was not based on the most sound possible reason, but it was my sincere feeling at the time regarding Superbia.What some of you have perceived as suspicious or scummy behaviour is in fact just my honest efforts at forcing myself to contribute. My natural tendency is to lurk and speak when spoken to.

I will attempt now to give my overall impressions of some of the other players in here and my reads on them. My confidence level on all of these reads is quite low, but I want to at least demonstrate that I'm putting effort towards trying to figure things out.

I was sketched by the Superbia thing, but now that he's back I don't really detect negative vibes from him. I feel like I jumped the gun significantly on my vote, and as such would like to ##Unvote. I intend to think my next vote through more carefully -- if not based on my own analysis, I will try to make my it based on sound analysis from another poster.

I was initially sketched out by Breshke. He just asked a lot of questions and made a post or two that I thought were questionable early (the "decent player" comment and the one about mafia putting in effort). As the thread has progressed, my read has reversed. At this point, I feel Breshke has been one of the more concise and contributive posters.

My read on lightning is neutral. His suspicion against me was reasonable, but I do think designating me as "top scum" is a bit much.

In regard to Elvis!, somewhat early on I had a strange thought. Elvis! kept mentioning the Superbia posts, but repeatedly placed emphasis on the fact that how Super follows up the posts is what really matters; in his words, " His reaction is all that counts. So I imagined that Elvis + super were both aligned mafia, and that Super would come back and make a post or series of posts that would negate the suspicion drawn early. Thereby wasting our time + evading blame. In this scenario, Elvis' posts were intended to help ensure that everyone only paid attention to Super's subsequent reaction. Perhaps this is silly, and I'm not even close to convinced of it now (if i was I may not have retracted Super vote), but it's a thought.

As for Elvis' more recent posts, I've seen some people voting for him to by lynched, but I haven't seen any posts from him that really jump out at me. I do get a general negative vibe from him, but I can't substantiate the claim enough to really say that I read him as scum.

Batsnacks -- initial read scum (pretty unfounded in retrospect), now neutral.

Grack -- Neutral, leaning town. Can't really provide meaningful analysis to justify this rating.

FF -- Neutral leaning town. Can't really provide meaningful analysis to justify this rating.

Seraj -- Leaning scum. His initial comment was of absolutely zero value and was intended to be of zero value. As well, I disagree with this read: "Fecal seems like someone who just went into mafia chat with Elvis and they just decided to start shifting the focus to a new townie after they realized it wasn't working on Superbia." I just didn't get that feeling at all, and this comment seemed baseless. His subsequent vote for Fecalfeast seemed somewhat suspect as well.

This is my best effort at analyzing what's happened so far. If there's a point I didn't extrapolate on, you can bet that it's more of a feeling than a firmly-rooted analytical conclusion.


The problem with this post is that the person who posted this and the person who didn't know what "tunneling" meant a mere hours before seems to have learned a great deal in a short amount of time. Feels like someone hopped into mafia chat for a while and was told what to post in order to salvage what was turning into a bad situation for him. He doesn't actually say anything of substance in the post, either - it reads more like a PR announcement. It's basically a gigantic post about how certain people aren't scum, but there's no actual explanation as to why they aren't scum; they just aren't in his opinion.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 19:00 GMT
#499
On November 05 2014 03:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
##Vote: Serejai

That vote and the rationale doesn't sit well at all with me. Explain yourself, please.


Lol, the rationale doesn't sit well? That's a very scummy thing to say. I know I'm town, and I don't know what cricket is. Therefore, if the lynch is going to be me or cricket... why would I let myself stay in the hot seat?

I don't think cricket is scum, but I know that I'm not; so if it's him or me, I'll choose him.

I thought you were town but this post of yours is scummy as shit.
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