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Avogadro's Number Mini Mafia

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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-17 22:03:04
October 07 2014 00:42 GMT
#1
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Please read the entire thread before signing up. Thank you.


* Cohosts are The_Templar and ObiWanShinobi. All night actions must be sent to both them and me.
* There are no coaches in this game.

Avogadro's Number Mini Mafia

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D1 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23099582
N1 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23113777
D2 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23120459
N2 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468642-avogadros-number-mini-mafia?page=76#1514
D3 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468642-avogadros-number-mini-mafia?page=84#1661




The Rules

The rules for this game are drawn from my model OP here: (link). Read them.


Supplemental Rules

In addition to the rules outlined in the Model OP, there are a couple changes for this game.

1. Night Length: Nights will last 24 hours, and you may speak at night.
2. Day Length: Each day lasts 48 hours.
3. Lynch Type: Plurality: the player with the most votes on him is the lynch target. If another player gets more votes then the lynch target, then that player becomes the new lynch target. The lynch takes place at the end of the Day: the lynch target is flipped for both role and alignment.
3.a Lynch Targeting: In addition to the lynch target, there is also a player who is "on deck", who becomes the lynch target in certain situations, such as when the lynch target gets unvoted without votes being added to anyone else. The player with the most votes on him who is not the lynch target is on deck. If another player gets more votes than the player who is on deck (without getting more votes than the lynch target), that player is becomes the new "on deck" player.
4. Activity: It is required you make at least 2 posts per day+night cycle, and ALSO meet the arbitrary activity requirement that exists entirely in my mind. Voting is mandatory.
5. Deadline: The Lynch Deadline will probably be at 21:00 GMT (+00:00), though if this doesn't work, we can change that.

Credits:
Thanks to anyone who has ever hosted a game. This list grows ever longer. Special thanks to myself for going over this setup with me, and to myself, on the balance approval team, for testing this setup for balance. Also thanks to Probulous since I stole this OP from him and modified it to my nefarious needs. Also also thanks to Palmar for helping me with this setup.

If you have not read all the rules, go and do so. I might give you candy.

I am open to questions any time. If something doesn't make sense, please ask.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 22:22:17
October 07 2014 00:42 GMT
#2


Roles and Setup information


This is a semi-open setup. There are four possible setups, and which setup is chosen will be RNGed. Each setup will then be modified in one of three ways, which will also be RNGed. The chosen setup is not revealed, but it should be deducable as the game goes on.


The Glorious Order of Rational Numbers


Four (Vanilla Townie): You're the number four. Four is a great number! You are a VT. Find and destroy the irrs.

Fraction (Parity Cop): You are a fraction, and you can with great difficulty compare two numbers to find out how they relate. Each night you target someone, and you're told if the alignment of your target is the same or different as your previous target. Your N1 check doesn't return anything, but is necessary for your N2 check to work. Your checks interact with roleblocks like this: (link). You can't check yourself. Find and destroy the irrs.

Negative Nine Thousand Three Hundred and Seventy-Eight (Doctor): You're a huge baller, a massively negative number. You are so massively negative you can absorb incoming attacks by generating negative attacks Each night, you can save someone from the nightkill. You can't protect the same player twice in a row. You can't save yourself. Find and destroy the irrs.

Prime (Named VT): You are a blue with no powers. Still, you're noteworth and unique. Find and destroy the irrs.

Town Win Condition - The town wins when there are no mafia left in the game or nothing can prevent that from happening.


Irrational Numbers


Square Root (Mafia Goon): You are scum. You have no special powers. You win when scum outnumbers town or nothing can prevent that.

π (Mafia RB): You are scum. Each night, you can RB someone.. You can RB and send in the factional KP in the same night if you are the last scum. The target, even if he is a VT, is notified of being roleblocked. You win when scum outnumbers town or nothing can prevent that.

i (Mafia GF): Under the right circumstances, someone might mistake you for the number one. You are scum. You return green to checks. You win when scum outnumbers town or nothing can prevent that.

Mafia Win condition - The mafia wins when they match or outnumber the remaining townies or nothing can prevent that from happening.


Possible Setups


Base Setups - pick one at random:
A) 1 Square Root, 1 π, 1 i, 1 Fraction, 1 Negative Nine Thousand Three Hundred and Seventy-Eight, 8 Fours
B) 2 Square Roots, 1 π, 1 Prime, 1 Fraction, 8 Fours
C) 2 Square Roots, 1 π, 1 Prime, 1 Negative Nine Thousand Three Hundred and Seventy-Eight, 8 Fours
D) 1 Square Root, 1 π, 1 i, 2 Primes, 8 Fours


Modifications - pick one at random:
1) Remove one Four and add one Prime.
2) Use setup as-is.
3) Remove one Prime and add one Four if possible.

Each Base Setup is equally likely. Each Modification is equally likely. Who gets what role will be RNGed.



Sample PMs:

Four
-9378
Fraction
Prime
Square Root, your QT: _____
π, your QT: _______
i, your QT: ______
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-17 22:03:47
October 07 2014 00:43 GMT
#3
Player List
1) kushm4sta
2) Barakos replaced by raynpelikoneet Four shot N2
3) Sn0_Man Prime Modkilled D1
4) GlowingBear
5) Chairman Ray
6) DarthPunk Prime Shot N1
7) ritoky replaced by alakaslam
8) Oatsmaster Four Lynched D1
9) Damdred
10) VisceraEyes
11) sqrtofneg1
12) geript Four Lynched D2
13) Hopeless1der

Cohosts
1) The_Templar
2) ObiWanShinobi

Replacements
1)
2)
3)

Shadows
1) Abuse (geript)
2) IAmRobik (DarthPunk)
3) Hapahauli (GlowingBear)

Sitouts
1)
2)
3)

Observers
1) Asma
2)
3)

5 of 10 Rational Numbers Reimanning
3 of 3 Irrational Numbers Reimanning

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Sn0_Man Prime Modkilled D1
Oatsmaster Four Lynched D1
DarthPunk Prime Shot N1
geript Four Lynched D2
Barakos replaced by raynpelikoneet Four shot N2
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 07 2014 00:49 GMT
#4
NUMBERS?!?
/cohost
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 01:11 GMT
#5
I AM YOUR NEW LORD AND MASTER.
Retired.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
October 07 2014 01:30 GMT
#6
What exactly is a shadow?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 01:32 GMT
#7
On October 07 2014 10:30 hzflank wrote:
What exactly is a shadow?

its like a hydra except only one player posts and is generally looking to their shadow for advice (or vice versa)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
October 07 2014 01:33 GMT
#8
On October 07 2014 10:30 hzflank wrote:
What exactly is a shadow?


Kind of like a reverse-coach. When you shadow a player, you get a QT with him/her and the player tells you what they're thinking/planning and you learn from their experience. Rarely used, but seems useful to some.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
October 07 2014 12:18 GMT
#9
On October 07 2014 10:33 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 10:30 hzflank wrote:
What exactly is a shadow?


Kind of like a reverse-coach. When you shadow a player, you get a QT with him/her and the player tells you what they're thinking/planning and you learn from their experience. Rarely used, but seems useful to some.

It IS very useful. If the guy you are shadowing is actually a good player.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 07 2014 12:30 GMT
#10
sounds good.

/shadow
I don't believe you.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 07 2014 14:08 GMT
#11
/in
This theme makes no sense.m A fraction is not necessarily a rational number. i and square root are not irrational numbers. Avogadro's number has nothing to do with math.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-07 15:09:09
October 07 2014 15:08 GMT
#12
This might be due to language-missunderstandings, but i am pretty sure, every fraction is a rational number, since:
"In mathematics, a rational number is any number that can be expressed as the quotient or fraction p/q of two integers" (wikipedia)
and fraction:
"In mathematics the set of all numbers which can be expressed in the form a/b, where a and b are integers and b is not zero"
(wikipedia)...

get your facts straight, scum! :p

Also: Dota-references + Transformer-References:
/in, if this fills up to 13
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 07 2014 15:11 GMT
#13
On October 08 2014 00:08 Barakos wrote:
This might be due to language-missunderstandings, but i am pretty sure, every fraction is a rational number, since:
"In mathematics, a rational number is any number that can be expressed as the quotient or fraction p/q of two integers" (wikipedia)
and fraction:
"In mathematics the set of all numbers which can be expressed in the form a/b, where a and b are integers and b is not zero"
(wikipedia)...

get your facts straight, scum! :p

Also: Dota-references + Transformer-References:
/in, if this fills up to 13

This is correct. Fractions in this form are always rational.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 07 2014 15:21 GMT
#14
pi/2 is not a rational number.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 07 2014 15:23 GMT
#15
On October 08 2014 00:21 kushm4sta wrote:
pi/2 is not a rational number.

pi is not an integer.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 07 2014 15:25 GMT
#16
Fraction (Parity Cop): You are a fraction, and you can with great difficulty compare two numbers to find out how they relate. Each night you target someone, and you're told if the alignment of your target is the same or different as your previous target. Your N1 check doesn't return anything, but is necessary for your N2 check to work. Your checks interact with roleblocks like this: (link). You can't check yourself. Find and destroy the irrs.

I don't see anything about integers here.

Also Avogadro Mafia is like naming a pokemon themed mafia Pikachu Mafia. why pikachu...
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 07 2014 15:35 GMT
#17
π (Mafia RB): You are scum. Each night, you can trilane an enemy to gank him

lazy bh is lazy hue

/in
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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 07 2014 15:36 GMT
#18
/shadow
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
October 07 2014 16:43 GMT
#19
I'm looking for anyone willing to volunteer to be shadowed by abuse or IAmRobik
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 07 2014 22:07 GMT
#20
I can be shadowed by Robik, so he learns how to play.

/in
I'm adorable.
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