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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
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AMG
Australia298 Posts
On October 12 2014 08:23 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I've never had so many scum reads so early on ever. I like Damdred so far. And DP. I don't like CR or VE or geript or GB or hopeless. in his filter. Scum rarely cast a net this wide, usually just focus on 1-2 people. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On October 20 2014 14:08 AMG wrote: Sqrt was never going to be scum with a post like : in his filter. Scum rarely cast a net this wide, usually just focus on 1-2 people. ![[image loading]](https://img.pandawhale.com/post-51001-Inigo-Montoya-who-are-you-gif-YP4e.gif) Regardless;  AMG The simple yet mind=blown wisdom. You had the key, and simply unlocked | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On October 20 2014 10:13 Hapahauli wrote: Town spent more time complaining about lurkers this game rather than doing something about it. That's why you have to lynch them early. Instead, town lynched active players (geript, Oats), then spiraled into a pit of despair as a result of their own mistakes (VE). Truth. I was amazed how bitter it was when I replaced, and soon as RAYN wasn't willing to tango based on me "not having read", I was already half demoralized. (On that: no such thing as reads based on fresh interaction huh?) Once town complained of lurking all the time and started pushing me for not me I was thouroughly unwilling to read the game. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On October 20 2014 14:08 AMG wrote: Sqrt was never going to be scum with a post like : in his filter. Scum rarely cast a net this wide, usually just focus on 1-2 people. Is that you Adam? o.o Anyway, I don't quite agree with this. Scum can totally cast their net wide. In fact a scum stereotype I see somewhat frequently is a player who throws around a lot of directionless suspicions. I'd understand if sqrt was displaying a pattern of paranoia (which is absolutely something to town-read someone off of), but one post does not make a solid read. I was actually really convinced that sqrt was scum on Day 1 and early Day 2 because of how little the post you quoted squares up with his other play. For example, he shifts from being suspicious of everyone to town-reading a lot of people in his later play. On October 13 2014 07:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Okay, I'm back, but I have a really busy thanksgiving weekend. I'll touch on the people who I haven't yet, and go back to the festivities. Barakos has few posts, but they are all really good. Rayn is null Kush hasn't done anything. Neither has Sn0. Ritoky is interesting. I have no idea what all the food pictures are. Oats is town. My vote is on glowingbear. Don't expect me to talk until tuesday. Obviously this read was wrong, but that doesn't change my point that I don't believe the post you quoted was a 100% town-tell. As I look through sqrt's filter, he probably would have been my leading lynch candidate by a wide margin on both Day 1 and 2. It was only on Day 3 (with how Kush and Damdred were treating sqrt) that changed my mind. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Did any of the townies think ve is scum on the final day? | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 20 2014 16:49 ritoky wrote: Sorry for the crappy play and the sudden sub, there was a death in my family. I hope people understand. My condolances. Try to hang on man.  | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On October 20 2014 16:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: A question: Did any of the townies think ve is scum on the final day? I was suspicious of VE for trying to sub out. He mentioned that he was waiting for a sub, but if that was approved, BH would have posted in the replacement thread, and if it was denied, he wouldn't be waiting anymore. I didn't want to mention it until the next day in case VE got shot in the night, but I had stronger confidence on the sqrt lynch because VE voted kush. So my mistake there. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
The game was actually solvable had one moro townie just realized the obvious voted for kush. | ||
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AMG
Australia298 Posts
On October 20 2014 16:08 Hapahauli wrote: Is that you Adam? o.o Anyway, I don't quite agree with this. Scum can totally cast their net wide. In fact a scum stereotype I see somewhat frequently is a player who throws around a lot of directionless suspicions. I'd understand if sqrt was displaying a pattern of paranoia (which is absolutely something to town-read someone off of), but one post does not make a solid read. I was actually really convinced that sqrt was scum on Day 1 and early Day 2 because of how little the post you quoted squares up with his other play. For example, he shifts from being suspicious of everyone to town-reading a lot of people in his later play. Obviously this read was wrong, but that doesn't change my point that I don't believe the post you quoted was a 100% town-tell. As I look through sqrt's filter, he probably would have been my leading lynch candidate by a wide margin on both Day 1 and 2. It was only on Day 3 (with how Kush and Damdred were treating sqrt) that changed my mind. Yeah, Its me. I see scum usually end up tunneling one or two players into oblivion, giving everyone else town reads to keep their profile/heat down. sqrt came in and called 50% of the player-base scummy with his 1st or 2nd post. That list post was a bit garbage, but I think several players ended up town reading him from it anyway. Personally, Id have probably hanged VE on day 3. He promised action when Rayn was out of the picture, rayn was shot and VE disappeared in a puff of smoke. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Damdred looked terrible for sheeping my wrong reads all game and when i got shot and accused kush suddenly no shewp any more in MYLO.... He should have been obv-next lynch after kush. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 20 2014 16:08 Hapahauli wrote: Is that you Adam? o.o Anyway, I don't quite agree with this. Scum can totally cast their net wide. In fact a scum stereotype I see somewhat frequently is a player who throws around a lot of directionless suspicions. I'd understand if sqrt was displaying a pattern of paranoia (which is absolutely something to town-read someone off of), but one post does not make a solid read. Actually Hapa, I mostly agree with him. The large majority of mafia don't push suspicion on 5 people early on like that. On October 20 2014 17:10 AMG wrote: Personally, Id have probably hanged VE on day 3. He promised action when Rayn was out of the picture, rayn was shot and VE disappeared in a puff of smoke. Except there was no way in hell that VE was mafia | ||
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AMG
Australia298 Posts
On October 20 2014 18:42 marvellosity wrote: Actually Hapa, I mostly agree with him. The large majority of mafia don't push suspicion on 5 people early on like that. Except there was no way in hell that VE was mafia I didnt say he was mafia  I said id hang him. I hate it when people promise stuff and don't deliver. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On October 20 2014 17:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: VE has a tendency to do that When he gets dismotivated. Damdred looked terrible for sheeping my wrong reads all game and when i got shot and accused kush suddenly no shewp any more in MYLO.... He should have been obv-next lynch after kush. Rayn told everyone just follow VE damdred and hopeless! the advice led to victory | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 20 2014 22:18 Damdred wrote: Rayn told everyone just follow VE damdred and hopeless! the advice led to victory I told everyone to lynch kush. You would have looked horrible if townies used their brain. It's hard to scumread you/hopeless when everyine except ve was so goddamn scummy. Altgough imo you played well. I read you town by your actions. Hopeless gambled and won, then there was "no room" for him to be mafia in my world. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
when I voted sqr i thought people would of jumped on me for pushing kush during night and not during the day. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On October 20 2014 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: I told everyone to lynch kush. You would have looked horrible if townies used their brain. It's hard to scumread you/hopeless when everyine except ve was so goddamn scummy. Altgough imo you played well. I read you town by your actions. Hopeless gambled and won, then there was "no room" for him to be mafia in my world. You also wanted to kill geript and you were the only one reading damdred as town the whole game with a lot of certainty. I was the only active town at LYLO that was trying to still solve the game. Then I realised nobody was playing, so I just fucked off too | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 20 2014 22:45 GlowingBear wrote: You also wanted to kill geript and you were the only one reading damdred as town the whole game with a lot of certainty. I was the only active town at LYLO that was trying to still solve the game. Then I realised nobody was playing, so I just fucked off too Well you pushed a townie all game long so...  I am not blaming anyone for reading people wrong, Especially you, since the game was near impossble to solve because of inactivity. But you gotta understand if you read VE town and he refuses to vote for your lynch you are gonna 100% lose if you don't vote for his because of LYLO... Mafia WILL consolidate anyways if they win... That i think was the biggest mistake for the town. If you are on sqrt and think ecen one player on kush is town you NEED to vote for him. You just need to.... | ||
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