EPTTL Mafia LXIV: The Restart
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The Good: Right now VE, Thrawn, Balla, Grack, and Alakaslam have been contributing to furthering the conversation. In some cases it has been extremely elaborate with reasoning, information and solid reasoning. In the other cases it’s legit trolling trying to get people to talk. I’m okay with all these people tentatively. The Bad: Tehpoofter, GGTeMpLaR, BloodyC0bbler, Skanjab1s, Storrzerg, and kush have all contributed quite a bit as well but something about these people’s early reasoning does not sit well with me. Maybe they’re scum hunting with their comments but the interactions just don’t scream town for me. I am just not particularly excited about what these people have to say. The Ugly: Coagulation, BlazingHand, Wile E. Coyote, Oatsmaster, bumatlarge, and Mocasta. These people have either not posted or have not given me enough to read on. I have a hard time reading into trolls. These people, in my opinion, have added very little information of substance or attempting to drive the conversation in a direction that seems town oriented. My reads will change as the game progresses and hopefully my post will generate some talk amongst you fine folk. | ||
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On January 27 2014 02:06 kushm4sta wrote: what's grack and alaka done that you consider good? Grack: I appreciate his confidence in his Day 1 reads. While he is on my good list he isn't particularly high on it I appreciated his campaign motto of lynching his reads. He is leaning towards the ugly with his trolling but he does make the list. Alaka: He's essentially baiting out comments. I like that to get the town talking on Day 1 but if it continues into the following days he'll probably land in my ugly list. On January 27 2014 02:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote: quantumpope for next likely scum on the chopping block for crafting posts. Do you mind elaborating "for crafting posts" means? I gave my reads in an easily digestible and concise order. How does your comment here contribute anything? You haven't looked into any of my reads or even comment on it. On January 27 2014 02:10 Skanjab1s wrote: Yeah I could totally kill the pope. I don't understand his name either and that makes me confused and angry and hungry for quantum blood. Quantum blood best blood. Once again how does this contribute anything? Right now with two separate people randomly pinging me like that leads me to be suspicious about their intentions. What are you trying to get out of me here with your comments Skanjab1s and BloodyC0bbler? | ||
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On January 27 2014 02:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: active blue hunting while not posting a ton of contributions. His support of kush early is just wtf in my opinion as well and no sensible person would do. Also pope your post was clearly crafted as you said have all contributed quite a bit as well but something about these people’s early reasoning does not sit well with me. Maybe they’re scum hunting with their comments but the interactions just don’t scream town for me. I am just not particularly excited about what these people have to say. At the time of your post I had one post, made less than an hour before your post. Skanj had like 2 posts, and storr has like 4-5. None of us have contributed quite a bit. Its clearly a post made in retardation and it was crafted with next to no real thought behind it. I generalized to be concise. Long posts that doesn't seem to say anything, for instance the one I am quoting, doesn't really do anything for town. I could write a 2000 word post going into specifics of various individuals in the thread but I find it posts like that only hinder town. Your personal attacks on my character also seem to be unsubstantiated so I'd love for you could please elaborate on the following: On January 27 2014 02:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: His support of kush early is just wtf in my opinion as well and no sensible person would do. I don't see the problem with supporting kush? I happen to be a very sensible person but if you could happen to enlighten me as to why this is a bad read it would be greatly appreciated. On January 27 2014 02:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Its clearly a post made in retardation and it was crafted with next to no real thought behind it. You try to discredit my reads...with no counter argument and by calling me retarded. Want to elaborate? | ||
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On January 27 2014 03:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Your post was crafted. It was vague, included 0 reads. The "bad" people were listed with flawed reasoning that you had for placing them there, etc... You only provided "full" reads on your town reads when asked and they were shoddy. Also anyone who has experienced games with kush should know fully where I am coming from. Its no secret that he trolls a fuck ton and randomly vanishes or just does random shit. Getting a town read on him is fine, putting him in power is not. I appreciate a post like this much more than your previous one. You lack of personal attacks and actually trying to give me a read is helpful instead of trying to play on my emotions. That post was to have town start speaking about my reads and have me explain them further. By doing this it allows town to gather information on why you pinged that person and shows interaction. You decided to personally attack me without trying to think why someone would post like that and read my scummy for it. You also seemed to be grasping at straws when I felt like I gave good arguments to my reasoning. If you are into specific reads so much why have given none and been tunneling on my posting style instead of asking questions to have me elaborate? Especially if you don't like some of those reads. As for kush: I have never supported him. I'm trying to see where you got that?I'll let this first day let me get a better read and I have taken your words into consideration but my read on him has not changed. He is not being town read, nor is he someone I want in power. Overall I think I've defeated a lot of the pressure brought towards me but I'd love to see what more people think of my reads. On January 27 2014 03:31 Oatsmaster wrote: QP, why did you write a list post SO EARLY IN THE GAME? I thought it would be the best way to get my reads out early on in a quick and easy way. As to questioning other people's reads I tend to like that play but I found it too aggressive for my liking. | ||
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On January 27 2014 04:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote: You never responded to my post QP On January 27 2014 02:34 GGTeMpLaR wrote: CONRAD!!!! You're my top scum now!!! Did you put one of your mafia in each of the 3 categories? Could you explain to town what you believe in right now TeMpLaR? You claim I put mafia in each of my 3 categories but then you immediately thought my reasoning was pretty good. I am confused with this latest post if you like my reads or not? | ||
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On January 27 2014 11:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Well after getting some of the answers I want. Mocsta has a very high chance of flipping scum imo. He is activeish via irc/pms but has been dodging the thread. Untop of that he was actively doing shennanigans on irc that are extremely suspect. BH ill hold off pushing to give him time to come back and be active, but hes also guilty of some very shifty shifty behaviour. Pope I still think is scum. He came in with very bleh contributions that myself and others have noticed felt insanely off, and since has vanished and done shit all while hes been under pressure. These three I think are currently our best bets for lynches. I came in with bleh contributions that I backed up to the best of my ability. My vanishing act, which I do not agree with, was due to previous commitments but I try to remain as active as possible. I asked you to inquire about my scum reads yet I have yet to see you ask about them. Also you sounded like you ended your pressure here: On January 27 2014 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote: playing to ones emotions typically gets far more informative answers  This sounded like the end of a conversation to me. As for your lynches I don't understand how you're not looking towards Willie or tehpoofter in place of any of the three names you provided because they have given near nothing to this thread. At least in my situation I am trying to actively be apart of the game whether you like my reads or not. | ||
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On January 28 2014 04:17 thrawn2112 wrote: anyone talked to QP in PM/irc? also i would like to see sum bum logs if someone wouldn't mind sending some Not a soul has spoken to me. I feel like I've missed out on a significant amount chatter behind the scenes but apparently a lot of people are making assumptions based on PMs. I've been trying to give the best reads possible with the lack of information. In my opinion, I am trying to play this as honestly as possible with giving all my reads to the thread. If anything I'm just disappointed that you don't seem to be reading me as town BC. My reads have changed though and I'll give my final scum reads written here: Skanjab1s - Claiming to be PMing people who haven't been involved yet I have yet to see anything from him so that makes me suspicious. Not liking his "experience" reads, especially on a player just joining the fray. StorrZerg - Seems to be taking a lot of his content to PM and not sharing it with the rest of the crowd. His reasoning for not voting BC just seems off to me and I feel like I'm not getting the whole picture of Storr's play. tehpoofter - Max lurk. VE - feels fine in my books but I don't really know why he doesn't think BC is town. bum - Just seems to be reading off of BC's reads but he really didn't give explanations for his own. Did not enjoy this. As for my vote: BC seems extremely active today now and his specific attacks on people who are claiming things in private seem very town to me. While I don't agree with his lynch on BH or his read on myself, I think his overall reads are leading town in the right direction. He seems to know the majority of the players in this game and seems to have well established reads on them. VE would be my second choice. ##vote BloodyC0bbler This post was much more rushed than my last one but unfortunately I don't have time to do much more than this. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have either in thread or PM. | ||
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On January 28 2014 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: that dude is 100% scum. I don't understand how I "claimed" scum. You seem like a person who deals with absolutes in this thread but I've gone back and looked at some of your previous games and you're not as aggressive as this. Any reason for the change of play? You know who also deals in absolutes? Sith. I will agree with you my reads are not the best as it seems like everyone here seems to have a rapport with each other while I'm on the outside trying to figure out exactly how everyone is On January 28 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote: so. qp still alive. Hi. Would you like to elaborate? On January 28 2014 22:54 Skanjab1s wrote: I'd like to lynch QP or Coag at the moment. You appear not to like my verbiage but I don't like dealing in absolutes. I don't have any perfect information that would allow me to make those sorts of calls. I would like to hear your reasoning on Coag. The read on Coag just seems like a random bandwagon. I apologize for the bloody nose bumatlarge but I'd love to just understand why you think I'm 100% scum according to your post. I agree that it is a weak post but I feel like if you could elaborate I'd understand your stance a little better. I appreciate the aggressive stances on my "claiming mafia" but those against me absolutely incorrect. I'm trying to give my best reads possible here and figure out this game. | ||
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On January 29 2014 06:26 Blazinghand wrote: make peace with whatever gods you believe in I carry no beliefs. If this the way that town wants to go this day my whatever god you may believe in have mercy on your soul. | ||
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On January 29 2014 06:28 Skanjab1s wrote: I don't have a problem with your lengthy writing, QP, I just think that you're incredibly scummy, for reasons rayn and other people have pointed out. You clearly pointed out my writing in your attack on me and did not mention anyone else's reads, though that can be assumed. Now you seem to have no problem with my writing? | ||
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On January 29 2014 06:30 Blazinghand wrote: wait is quantumpope actually a perosn and not a smurf? he has a witter I am actually a person. | ||
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On January 29 2014 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Shut the fuck up. You are making shit up. Now give me the logs you scum. Why the aggressive tone man? From what I can tell you don't usually post like this. | ||
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On January 29 2014 06:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like QP and BC do not even elaborate on the reasoning. They just discredit me for some bullshit reasons. Look at their posts. lol. Basic scum strategy - when you can't counter arguments, try to discredit the other person. I never tried to discredit you. I kindly asked why your play seems to have changed and all you posted was a condescending comment not explaining anything. | ||
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On January 29 2014 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Which games in perticular did you read? "SMB" Mini Mafia and Normal Mini Mafia: Episode 1 Your aggressive tone was used one people who were inactive more than people in the game. You have aggressive moments but from what I've read it's never so absolute like you going on me. I appreciate the pressure though as I feel it lets me explain myself better. | ||
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On January 29 2014 06:37 Skanjab1s wrote: What? No I didn't, what are you talking about? On January 28 2014 22:24 Skanjab1s wrote: Okay so I think QP is scum, too, especially after that horrid post. I also don't like the way he constantly used "Seems like", or "Claims to" etc. It feels scummy. If I was around I'd have switched to rayn, but alas, it was not to be. | ||
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On January 29 2014 06:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Basic scum strategy - when you can't counter arguments, try to discredit the other person. On January 29 2014 06:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: BloodyC0bbler do you think not reading the thread is a useful talent toi have for a mayor? WAT | ||
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On January 29 2014 06:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: In SMB i made a town cop ragequit. In Normal Mini mafia i apparently made someone cry (though i was not rude). So, what's this bullshit? Was it your personal attacks or was it your play? I don't find your pressure on myself nearly as aggressive as anyone in those games. | ||
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