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Anyways I agree with Blurry, we have to lynch someone day 1 to put some pressure on mafia, otherwise they can just sit this one out doing basically nothing. On September 25 2013 13:04 onlywonderboy wrote: Oh god, I do this constantly. Gotta remember this rule >_< THIS SO MUCH. | ||
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I think we should hold off on lynching lurkers the first day, but if they continue to lurk we definitely should lynch them, imo it's a scumtell as that's what a scum would like to do - be passive and watch townies kill other townies and jumping on lynchwagons whenever a townie is in danger of getting lynched. | ||
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On September 25 2013 11:11 Bereft wrote: woohoo! party like it's TeamLiquid's birthday. so the almost complete absence of chatter even pregame makes me a bit wary. so i would suggest that we strongly and seriously threaten any lurkers with our day 1 lynch. 0 tolerance for lurking! my previous newbie game suffered from modkills and inactivity, and as a result it became really hard to gather a complete picture or at least see how 1 player reacted in the context of another considering only 50% was participating.. Can you explain your opinion on this a bit more? The only thing you CAN achieve with lynching lurkers is getting people to be more active, and I'm pretty sure we need to hunt scum, not force people to write meaningless posts. It puts literally ZERO pressure on the mafia, we need to be actively scumhunting - not lurkerhunting. | ||
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On September 25 2013 21:50 playerboy345 wrote: we need to be actively scumhunting - not lurkerhunting. | ||
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On September 26 2013 01:20 JonnyLaw wrote: See, when more than 47 minutes have elapsed everyone in the game has posted something at least. Of those posters a couple stand out to me. At the moment I'm wary of Jayte and Mluneth. Since he joined the game this is his sole contribution. Meh...not trying to contribute, just posting to say he posted. This is an odd question. Feels like someone trying to role call falsely in order to be above suspicion. Why not pm your coach or a mod? Mluneth's other post since joining + Show Spoiler + On September 25 2013 22:51 MLuneth wrote: Hey guys, let try and keep the jokes down a little, it just ends up clogging up the thread, something that just helps mafia. In terms of policy lynching a lurker on d1(and in general), I'm against it simply because it lets maf chill (as they know how we will act) rather then being on their toes and hopefully making mistakes that we can punish. As for my idea on on lurkers, I think pressure is key as there is really no reason for town to avoid discussion. Anyway, greetings from Australia  It's early but those are my impressions upon going through everyone's posts individually. Lol you got a good point on Jayte, didn't a scum in the previous newbie mafia game start with a similar line? I have to disagree on your MLuneth "read" though, yes he might not be adding much to the game with that post but there really wasn't much to discuss when he posted it other then your opinion on lynching/not lynching lurkers. Though the question is indeed a bit weird, I mean it wouldn't make any sense if he was NOT scum to ask such a question because that would be an easy blue kill night 1 for mafia, or am I missing something here? Maybe he can clear it up when he gets online, I am quite interested in how he will defend the question. | ||
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And I agree with the question, but let's just wait and see how he will defend himself. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [onlywonderboy] + He has added nothing to the game by far, his posts are just one-liners which are basically useless posts. Hopefully we'll hear some more of him soon + Show Spoiler [Zaragon] + The one thing I found a bit odd was that he clothed his opinions on MLuneth and heavenz/Bereft with arguments but the only thing he said about me was that I feel towny. I'm wondering why he didn't back this up with arguments like he did with the other cases. Overall I think he is town, but not using arguments and just saying "he feels town" is a bit weird in my opinion. (It feels so wrong to be suspicious of someone who called you town T_T) + Show Spoiler [stormtemplar] + I think he is town, he made himself very clear on the lurker subject and asked me to elaborate when I wasn't clear enough. He also questioned the same thing I did - Zaragon not using arguments on his opinion of me. I haven't read anything of him yet that I could even consider a scumread, he just tries to force information out of others, like: Also, with you all on Jaytee. Where'd he go? He was clearly here, so why the disappearance? Simply going inactive is a classic inexperienced mafia behavior, and at best he's an inactive townie, which is not good for us. Obviously he's done nothing scummy, but doing nothing is itself kinda scummy. He needs to show up and post so we can get some reads. + Show Spoiler [Jayte] + Only an one-liner so far, and a highly suspicious (imo) one at that + Show Spoiler [JonnyLaw] + I got nothing on him so far. + Show Spoiler [heavenz] + On September 26 2013 16:58 heavenz wrote: onlywounderboy: only oneliners, while I am not against one liners at all, just writing 1 liners lacks much content. He tries to show activness even though he has no content, perhaps he didn't know what to write in the beginning. Now after 24h you should write more than 1 liners. Zaragon: has my strongest town read so far. Blurry is really falling behind expectation, that's weird. You really should post more. lurkers:Jayte, xIvanJ You both have to participate way more. I agree with you on onlywonderboy. BUT the bolded part makes me a bit suspicious, you say Zaragon has your strongest town tell but you say nothing to back it up, same goes for Blurry. Please elaborate on this when you can. + Show Spoiler [MLuneth] + On September 26 2013 14:57 MLuneth wrote: On my question, I'm a curious guy! I got lynched d3 and it's been several months since I last played, so I might be a little sketchy on some rules. What made you think it was a good idea to ask it in this thread? Wouldn't it make you an easy target for mafia or am I missing something here? And why are you going balls deep on heavenz? That's a pretty gutsy move. Your last posts basically says "I want to lynch heavenz!" without having a shitton of evidence to back it up with. + Show Spoiler [Bereft] + I got nothing on him so far. + Show Spoiler [Blurry] + His only post so far is on the lurker subject, it's not quite enough for me to have a tell on him. + Show Spoiler [BajaBlood] + On September 26 2013 02:48 BajaBlood wrote: Yeah, it's the shortest post so far, but I don't think he's alone in not having contributed any substance yet (myself included). Hopefully we'll start to see more contributions as our discussions turn more in this direction. Moving into discussions like this is probably more productive than the policy lynch, though - at least the guides say so  On September 26 2013 09:51 BajaBlood wrote: Not terribly impressed that this is the only post so far from this player... Asking for mercy on lurkers then proceeding to post nothing else. First he defends Jayte for having only one/a short post with no content and then he proceeds to attack xIvanJ for having only one post with no content. Am I the only one who thinks that's SUPER suspicious? I'll keep an eye on BajaBlood and Jayte for now. + Show Spoiler [Balla24] + Don't got much on him so far, but nothing scummy. Like this post: On September 26 2013 11:37 Balla24 wrote: I'm not really getting any bad vibes from anybody at this point. Really need to hear from the less talkative people at this point to get a read off of them. As far as town reads I'm liking Zaragon for sure, and maybee Bereft. Both of them have been quite active in trying to move the discussion forward and providing their reads. They have also been looking into other's past games which i think is quite helpful for us. We just really need to hear from the quiet ones at this point though, they are really stalling the game and it's been a whole 24 hours. Some people have 1/2 posts only and have been quite weird. If we're not going to hear from them though, i'd like to hear a bit more from Heavenz now that some time has passed, maybe there are more insights about how people are acting first day compared to that last game they played together. Blurry specifically, as his opening post -> sudden quietness is worrying from what I hear so far about his play. Looks town to me. + Show Spoiler [xIvanJ] + Only a one-liner so far, he has to post more. | ||
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4 posts since I started writing, anyways can you provide some thoughts on my analysis though? | ||
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On September 26 2013 22:29 onlywonderboy wrote: playerboy: Great analysis of all the players. But, imo, it seemed like a post that was trying too hard to put the spotlight on "Hey, look, I'm helping the town!" I'm definitely not saying he should be a candidate for the first lynch, but just something to keep in mind in the future. I appreciate it, and I really like that you don't trust me right of the bat just because I wrote a massive wall of text, I would have questioned you if you weren't being cautious. On September 26 2013 22:25 BajaBlood wrote: That aside, I think your analysis is good, playerboy. I appreciate the effort you're putting into the thread. Definitely getting a good vibe. I can understand where you are coming from with your perspective on me - you're welcome to continue to see if I' appear to be acting irrationally regarding Jayte as the game goes on. The only other thing I disagree with is on the heavenz part - you yourself (and I did this too) said you had a greenish read to Zaragon but didn't have much to support it, why is it odd that heavenz does too? Like I said, those are only my "feels" for now, nothing is set in stone and there is still a decent amount of time left untill the nightphase, we should use this time to keep people talking, the more people talk, the more likely it is that they'll say something they weren't supposed to say. It wasn't really odd, but I would really like to know why he thinks that Zaragon is towny, writing that someone is town is easy, backing it up with arguments is a bit harder, but it can convince people that your opinion is the right one. On September 26 2013 23:00 heavenz wrote: I would advice to vote for Jayte assuming that xIvanJ get's modkilled or replaced. I think xIvanJ will be modkilled, he has only posted once so far and it wasn't an impressive one at that (just agreeing with things that have already been said). Jayte hasn't really been all that productive, and his low post count isn't really helping either so that means I will put my vote on Jayte for now, would really like it if he could defend himself as I really don't want to mislynch :/. That doesn't mean I'm not suspicious of BajaBlood anymore though <3 (I appreciate you taking the time to defend yourself though, definitely a plus in my book). ##Vote: Jayte | ||
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On September 27 2013 01:01 Balla24 wrote: and final note on the BajaBlood suspiciousness... I don't really agree with that. He's targetting 2 quiet people, and I don't honestly think it matters which one we go after. They need to step up. That's all i have to say about that. I agree with you here, both xIvanJ and Jayte need to defend themselves, we know that Jayte is around so I really want to know what he has to say for himself. xIvanJ however has only made a single post so far and it doesn't seem like he is going to post any more, probably will get replaced/modkilled. About the BajaBlood suspicion, I didn't say it was a 100% scumtell, it's just something that seemed off to me, however after reading his defense it made a decent amount of sense. I'm still keeping my eye on him though. | ||
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##Unvote Jayte On September 27 2013 05:37 heavenz wrote: Strong town read on: Me, Bella24, Zaragon, onlywounderboy, good: Baja Blood, Jonny Law Suspicious Stormtemplar,Mluneth (100% of his posts are suspicious, but that's so over the top that it would be odd if he was mafia) I wouldn't be surprised if there was a playerboy & stormtemplar mafia. Afk: Bereft, Blurry, xIvan, Jayte Actually I think Jaytes post 2nd and last post makes him even more suspicious, like he's claiming mafia. Please do explain your town read on onlywonderboy, On September 27 2013 04:26 onlywonderboy wrote: Unfortunately I have to be getting to work, so I'll miss any last minute deliberations. I'm going to have to ##Vote: Blurry. He's had plenty of time to defend himself so I'm not sure a least minute appeal would change my mind. He sorta flew under the radar for me, but people have pointed out his lack of contribution I agree it seems problematic. @JonnyLaw I'll respond to your inquiry when I have more time. Short version is I liked that he was putting the time into profile everyone, not that I really agreed with all the analysis. "Great" might have been too strong of a word I suppose. He does a pretty last minute vote on Blurry, why? Because he hasn't defended himself yet. Guess who hasn't defended themselves yet other then Blurry: Jayte and xIvanJ, why not vote for them but for Blurry?Seems like he doesn't really care about who is lynched, as long as SOMEONE gets lynched. He really hasn't contributed alot to this thread so I disagree on your "strong" town read on him. MLuneth... eh, could it be that he is just a dumb townie?(no offense) Sure he is suspicous but I don't see anything that SCREAMS scum to me. I'm willing to wait a little longer with him to see how his posting behaviour develops. I also found it funny how you think I'm suspicious just because stormtemplar agrees with me lol. Honestly I would like to hear more on the stormremplar case because I feel like I'm missing something here, would greatly appreciate it if someone could point me to some of the scummy things he has done so far. | ||
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On September 27 2013 04:26 onlywonderboy wrote: Unfortunately I have to be getting to work, so I'll miss any last minute deliberations. I'm going to have to ##Vote: Blurry. He's had plenty of time to defend himself so I'm not sure a least minute appeal would change my mind. He sorta flew under the radar for me, but people have pointed out his lack of contribution I agree it seems problematic. @JonnyLaw I'll respond to your inquiry when I have more time. Short version is I liked that he was putting the time into profile everyone, not that I really agreed with all the analysis. "Great" might have been too strong of a word I suppose. I feel onlywonderboy is the person I'm getting highest scum read from. He likes that I put time into a post but he says that he didn't agree with all the analysis, then why not elaborate on what you didn't agree with? He leaves with a vote on Blurry and says he'll post when he has more time, it's been two hours and he hasn't posted anything yet so my vote is on him. ##Vote onlywonderboy | ||
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