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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 08 2013 19:21 GMT
#48
Have to make sure I

/in

before slots fill up!
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 28 2013 21:56 GMT
#269
/confirm
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 29 2013 09:18 GMT
#279
AMERICA
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 30 2013 06:25 GMT
#441
I'm so confused by this game.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 30 2013 06:39 GMT
#443
On August 30 2013 15:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
How about how the fuck we're ever going to win this game with 12 people posting out of 30.
I'm so goddamn sick of lurk.
Geript if I could give you a gun and you'd fire 3 bullets into the air and they'd fall and land on some fucking useless chaff then I would.


That's a little harsh considering the game has very recently started. Seems to me like you're trying to find something to appear active. You should try and tone it back a little, just makes you look like you're puffing up your post count.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 30 2013 06:39 GMT
#444
EBWOP: In hindsight, that's probably considered a filler post as well.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 30 2013 19:04 GMT
#867
How does Cheesecake know so much?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 30 2013 19:10 GMT
#869
EBWOP: Just standard pressuring. Read his filter alone without the posts around it.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 30 2013 19:13 GMT
#870
Well that's shady Onegu. So there's a secret QT some people have access to but scum potentially has access to as well?

Onegu did you post your own name in secret QT because you had already been posting in scum QT and just forgot to change accounts? (That's thin, but I think it's a real question)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2013 06:58 GMT
#1146
On August 31 2013 12:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Things to respond to.

@Black Mesa Bullshit

So, from what I gather, BM is:

1) A separate QT organization thing with a bunch of people in it. Apparently there is no wincon or it is hidden or those people don't want to tell us?
2) Some scum are probably inside.

Not sure this is worth looking into right now.

@ Geript claim

Unlynchable. Lynching him provides no alignment-indicative information. He's either unlynchable townie OR unlynchable mafia. Let night actions take care of it, have someone shoot him in the face or something. I think lynching a guy who has the likelihood of being not-lynched is a bad play from a town perspective. Let's say we lynch him and he lives. VE and company will still be paranoid he's mafia that was 1-shot lynchproof or something. Paranoid is the worst enemy you can have in a mafia game, especially when GreYmist is involved. Flip him via bullets / electricity / fire, it's much more fun.

Now, onto who we should lynch today.

Risen

I called him out before for his bullshit. He is clearly reading the thread, by his comment on the "secret QT", but has given us naught a single read thus far. I'll give you my first crude post.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 31 2013 02:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I also want to lynch Risen because this is his entire filter.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 15:25 Risen wrote:
I'm so confused by this game.


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On August 30 2013 15:39 Risen wrote:
On August 30 2013 15:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
How about how the fuck we're ever going to win this game with 12 people posting out of 30.
I'm so goddamn sick of lurk.
Geript if I could give you a gun and you'd fire 3 bullets into the air and they'd fall and land on some fucking useless chaff then I would.


That's a little harsh considering the game has very recently started. Seems to me like you're trying to find something to appear active. You should try and tone it back a little, just makes you look like you're puffing up your post count.

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On August 30 2013 15:39 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: In hindsight, that's probably considered a filler post as well.


Says he has no idea what's going on and flings shit at random dude.

Let's not lynch rather active people D1. POST OR DIE BITCHES


Now, Risen's filter is short. He is mafia because he is very apprehensive about his actions. First, he flings shit at WoS, then after i pressure him, he gives this:

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 04:04 Risen wrote:
How does Cheesecake know so much?


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On August 31 2013 04:10 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: Just standard pressuring. Read his filter alone without the posts around it.


What is this supposed to mean? He doesn't care to point out "This is what is suspicious about CC, and I think he knows more than he should as town." He justifies it later by saying "Guys, it's just pressure NBD - read dat filter" Townies don't explicitly say "JUST PRESSURE GUYS!"

Then he pokes at Onegu:

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On August 31 2013 04:13 Risen wrote:
Well that's shady Onegu. So there's a secret QT some people have access to but scum potentially has access to as well?

Onegu did you post your own name in secret QT because you had already been posting in scum QT and just forgot to change accounts? (That's thin, but I think it's a real question)


How is this scumhunting at all? Risen doesn't seem to care about finding scum, but rather giving small post to subtly incriminate people. He's inactive and mafia.


Why not? Your read on me seems to be centered around my lurkiness, which is understandable. I've been busier than I expected the past couple days with DMing, though.

The posts meant exactly what they stated. I felt you knew too much about alignments. Upon reading just your filter without the posts around them I changed my mind. The end. I don't exactly justify it later. It took me 6 minutes between the time I hit post and the time I read through your filter to change my mind.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2013 06:58 GMT
#1147
EBWOP: Maybe this is a misunderstanding. I didn't mean other people should read his filter. That's not read, it's read (as in it sounds like red)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2013 07:13 GMT
#1149
Well I don't really like Cheesecakes case on me, but that's probably just bias against someone attacking me. I don't have a problem with him misinterpreting my read statement, because as it's written that's how I would read it too. I do have a problem with him saying I'm apprehensive about my actions.

I haven't flung any shit this game. I simply pointed something out I thought the thread and WoS should be aware of. Pointing something that is anti-town out isn't flinging shit, or every single case ever made in mafia is flinging shit. So I feel justified thinking that while a town cheesecake wouldn't hyperbolize, a scum cheesecake would. His case on me feels so slimy, like he's trying to twist my words into meaning something they don't.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2013 07:51 GMT
#1151
On August 31 2013 16:27 randombum wrote:
So do you still think wos is anti-town?

I don't think he's acting anti-town.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2013 07:52 GMT
#1152
EBWOP: WoS I would shoot Cheesecake if I had a gun. I don't know how I overlooked your question.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 31 2013 23:51 GMT
#1569
Holy shit dodge. Been busy with business leasing stuff all day.

##vote: geript
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 02 2013 04:24 GMT
#1978
There's a lot of points being made about other people that apply equally to me. I find it interesting that cheesecake is the only one consistently pressuring me. I'd be very interested in the filters of those people who mention me off hand but don't follow through at all.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 03 2013 04:10 GMT
#2308
On September 03 2013 10:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 10:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:28 Clarity_nl wrote:
vayne, read the thread:
On September 03 2013 09:50 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 03 2013 09:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Well that actually sucks for him =\

Why does Hassy not look good? Who acted on VE?


Hassy claimed to have tried to protect VE. My role reveals all actions on VE. Hassy's protection was not there.

All the proof you need.



how about you read the thread. I just said that it isn't open and shut like that.


Do you know something I don't? It seems pretty open and shut.

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On September 03 2013 10:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:10 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
So is town just incredibly amazing at killing themselves this game or do we have two scum here caught in their night actions?


I don't understand this.

Either:

A) Hassy lied and is guilty
B) I'm lying about Hassy and I'm guilty

How does either lead to town killing themselves?


C) this game makes no fucking sense

for all we know some role could have done something to make his protection not go through but he still thinks it did. In this case, neither of you are lying.

You aren't thinking over everything


This is just... grasping at straws.

Kita can you clarify, does your role see actions that are attempted or actions that are actually done?


Looks like me defending VE as scum when he was town doc in some game a long time ago.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 03 2013 04:12 GMT
#2309
On September 03 2013 11:48 randombum wrote:
Ok I'm back.

First thing's first I still believe geript is scum. There's just this sense of not caring about the lynch. Then there's the fact that he basically wasted everybody's time with his un-lynchable claim (which was a lie) and subsequent discussion about it. He eliminated a lot of town information by using this ability so early.

As he said
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 06:51 geript wrote:
Vote placement is completely inconsequential and doesn't matter in the slightest. People should wholly disregard a large majority of the votes today.

Vote placement is normally a good source of information for town since when somebody flips we know his alignment and who voted/pushed for him.

And it doesn't help that he killed a townie.

Basically, everything he did day 1 has hurt town. He wasted our time, denied us information, and killed a town player.


Bolded is relevant. Town players don't troll that hard.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 03 2013 07:02 GMT
#2326
On September 03 2013 14:15 AxleGreaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 13:24 Risen wrote:
There's a lot of points being made about other people that apply equally to me. I find it interesting that cheesecake is the only one consistently pressuring me. I'd be very interested in the filters of those people who mention me off hand but don't follow through at all.


@Risen
So did you do anything with your interest?

or did you

Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 13:12 Risen wrote:
On September 03 2013 11:48 randombum wrote:
Ok I'm back.

First thing's first I still believe geript is scum. There's just this sense of not caring about the lynch. Then there's the fact that he basically wasted everybody's time with his un-lynchable claim (which was a lie) and subsequent discussion about it. He eliminated a lot of town information by using this ability so early.

As he said
On September 01 2013 06:51 geript wrote:
Vote placement is completely inconsequential and doesn't matter in the slightest. People should wholly disregard a large majority of the votes today.

Vote placement is normally a good source of information for town since when somebody flips we know his alignment and who voted/pushed for him.

And it doesn't help that he killed a townie.

Basically, everything he did day 1 has hurt town. He wasted our time, denied us information, and killed a town player.


Bolded is relevant. Town players don't troll that hard.


Just turn up when the dust is pretty settled and say some stuff. that really doesn't let me see much about how your thinking.

If you were scum and there was really a town player trolling that hard... that would be a very easy comment for scum to make.
If you were scum and there was really a scum player who thought they were so 'caught scum' trolling that hard... that would be a very easy comment for scum to make.

Can you think of anything to do that would give me confidence you are town?

If geript is scum as you imply and the game is balanced, town is effectively at the first lynch they control.. so we could always try to lurker lynch you to see what happens.



On August 10 2013 05:44 Acrofales wrote:
Risen! Who do you want to kill. If you're a loyalist, you generally have good intuitions once you've settled down. If you're a Blackfyre you will just accuse your fellow conspirators. I want to know who you'd like to kill today! And please don't refer me to your earlier long discourse: I want an updated version!

Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 03 2013 19:00 GMT
#2494
On September 03 2013 21:18 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 21:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 03 2013 20:15 Cephiro wrote:
On September 03 2013 20:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 03 2013 20:06 Cephiro wrote:
On September 03 2013 19:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
I kinda like hassy's explanation cause its not like he was instantly accusing kita for being scum. It felt like he was genunienly confused.


The thing is, how could he even accuse kita of being scum? The results of kita's action where shown us all. Hardly can you imagine he's scum for revealing all actions used on VE? I don't necessarily agree that was the best choice, but at least it confirmed us his alignment, and as things look now I would look into lynching Hassy as well.

Top 3 lynches for today:

Oatsmaster
geript
Hassybaby

kita could be lying.
Ok whatever.

Give any reasons why Im scum Ceph PLEASE. I BEG YOU.


As mentioned earlier.. you do not commit, you don't contribute, you flip-flop. Most of all, your reactions against any pressure made on you point out your alignment incredibly clearly. The amount of OMGUS from you on me is just ridiculous, yet you haven't even bothered to try and convince others of killing me for as much you believe me to be scum.

Don't worry, you'll get killed soon enough.

Flip flopping isnt scummy.
I have contributed.
Not committing? Calling a load of dudes confirmed scum or town isnt committing?

Can you explain why I dont have a good reason to think you are scum?
Can you also explain how shouting 'lynch oats' all the time is convincing people?

I bet you cant.


You're just plain horrible. You're not even trying are you?

Flipflopping ain't scummy since when? Sure, if you have a good reason you can change your mind, but you constantly do without any. No, you have not contributed. Committing is not changing targets every few hours and saying "he's confirmed scum". Do you know what confirmed scum is? You should check up the word "confirmed" from a dictionary, might help out a bit. I have provided my reasons why you should die multiple times, I'm just reminding others that you really need to die. On the other hand, your question is hilarious. "Can you explain why I don't have a good reason to think you are scum?"

... LOL. Yeah, so you want me to make a case on myself so that you would have something to convince others with? You're just omgus-calling me scum but you're not doing shit about it. Because you don't care. You're scum and you don't care.


You should take a look through some of my games if you think the bolded is really true. Whether it applies to Oats or not is a different matter entirely, but that blanket statement isn't true.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
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