• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:39
CET 15:39
KST 23:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.174Evil Geniuses - shutting down20ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League92
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 Evil Geniuses - shutting down REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development No more SC2 streamers on team liquid?
Tourneys
RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
SC4ALL II Brood War Complete Invited Player Lineup BW General Discussion Starcraft player cRuZa Passed away. BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Do we even care about balance?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE! KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4 [BSL23] RO24 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7773 users

[M](2) Derelict Colony

Forum Index > SC2 Maps & Custom Games
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
sCnDiamond
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany340 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 18:24:23
July 30 2013 00:31 GMT
#1
[image loading]

Overview: [always up to date]
[image loading]

Introduction/Inspiration:
I wanted to make a map like this since i have played Crysis 3. The aesthetics of this game just struck me as really cool, but i also knew that it would be difficult to implement it into SC2. I tried a new Jungle Tileset which is much more muddy than Bel'Shir, which i think turned out very well on my last map, but the layout was pretty boring and straight forward. I also felt like it was missing something. Jungle Theme is nice and all, but imo you need something to highlight it a bit. Merged with the idea of an overgrown city like in Crysis 3 it really shines now imo, even though the map overview doesn't look good, zoomed in i like how it turned out.

Gameplaywise it was even harder to create a layout i was comfortable with. One idea i wanted to utilize is no watch towers at all, so you have to work a bit more for map control than usual. I also included some tiny ramps in the middle of the map, since it isn't used at the moment. The last thing is something i consider a flaw in many of my maps: I usually end up with layouts where all bases are tucked against the map border, so this time i wanted to have several bases right into the map. The natural requires an additional building to wall off, so maybe it will allow for some more early aggression. The third is also a bit more difficult to take, but not as difficult as Neo Planet for example, especially PvZ. I already have some feedback from a high master P and a Z GM (EU-Server), but i'm still looking for more feedback on this map to improve it.

Pictures (Aesthetics): [outdated]
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]


Infos:
~ 2-player map, spawns at bottom right & top left.
~ created by sCnDiamond (not the one from ESV)
~ published on NA, EU, KR & SEA as "[sCion] Derelict Colony"

Texture Set:
Zerus Dirt Medium
Bel'Shir Grass Dark
Agria Dirt Rough
Mar Sara Blackened Rock
Korhal Platform Panels Small
Korhal City Dirt Dark
Valhalla Large Tiles

Cliff Type:
Mar Sara Organic Cliffs
Braxis Alpha Manmade Cliffs
formerly spinnaker.
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
July 30 2013 00:49 GMT
#2
I won't pretend to be an expert on balance, but i love the look.
greenroom
Profile Joined February 2012
United States20 Posts
July 30 2013 21:05 GMT
#3
I'm really loving the aesthetics; that must have taken forever. I love the placement of the expansions too, it probably makes for some very interesting games.

My only criticism would be that it looks a bit too choky for zerg, though I could be wrong.

Very cool map.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 30 2013 21:12 GMT
#4
I really like two things you did, as they are acutally both things I have already advocated on this forum:
- putting bases more towards the middle as opposed to the sides of the map
- more interesting middle area (not just a flat battlefield, maybe with a highground).

Also, the look is superb. I became recently quite bored with map aesthetics, this is one that stands out.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
TXRaunchy
Profile Joined June 2013
United States131 Posts
July 30 2013 21:21 GMT
#5
It looks good. It looks race-balanced.
There are chokes and wide open spaces.
Small side where blink and reapers can get up.
No dead space.

Easy third with consequences.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
July 30 2013 21:28 GMT
#6
Epic design! What about adding some water in some places?
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
July 30 2013 21:51 GMT
#7
Very pretty! One of your best for sure. I love the little harass pocket on the lowground below the natural. I think if this map got accepted to ladder/tournaments today, we'd see a very interesting development of how people position and move their armies, like how Cloud Kingdom evolved when people started to understand better how to move around the map and control different areas. Imo this is one of the highest achievements a map can do, so that's great.

Not saying this is perfect but it looks really cool. I need to play it and think about it some more.
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
sCnDiamond
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany340 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 00:06:42
August 01 2013 00:05 GMT
#8
@Fishriot: Thank you!

@greenroom: It took me around 20 hours to do the doodads, in total maybe 25 hours. I'm glad you like the way i put the expos.

@opisska: Thank you! I'm afraid i even went a bit overboard, so it might hinder gameplay a bit, i'm not 100% sure on that yet, though.

@TXRaunchy: Thank you.

@Existor: Great idea. I always wanted to include water and not only use it on the borders of the map. I'll see if i can include it in a non-intrusive way.

@EatThePath: You give me way too much credit . I'm really curious how the map will be played after the 3rd. So far i haven't seen a lot of late game on the map, but that's not that unusual since no one is familar with it. I'll enter it to the contest CSL posted today, maybe they'll give it a shot. At the moment i'm not very happy with how the dirt texture is applied to the map, it looks to regular. I will try to improve on it.
formerly spinnaker.
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
August 01 2013 00:23 GMT
#9
Do you have a spare slot for another dirt/rock texture? To overlay on the uniform dirt and diversify it.
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
sCnDiamond
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany340 Posts
August 01 2013 00:28 GMT
#10
On August 01 2013 09:23 EatThePath wrote:
Do you have a spare slot for another dirt/rock texture? To overlay on the uniform dirt and diversify it.

Yes, but i have no idea what texture i can add. At the moment i'm using the agria rough dirt to give it some variety, but it's more the shape i'm concerned with... it just looks to clean in my opinion. I'll try to give the textures a better transition into each other.
formerly spinnaker.
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
August 01 2013 01:12 GMT
#11
On August 01 2013 09:28 sCnDiamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:23 EatThePath wrote:
Do you have a spare slot for another dirt/rock texture? To overlay on the uniform dirt and diversify it.

Yes, but i have no idea what texture i can add. At the moment i'm using the agria rough dirt to give it some variety, but it's more the shape i'm concerned with... it just looks to clean in my opinion. I'll try to give the textures a better transition into each other.

Char marsh dirt cracked looks kind of interesting/contrasty but not eyepopping on top of zerus dirt medium. (Combined with grass and agria dirt rough to give it texture and blend it.)
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
FlyingBeer
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States262 Posts
August 01 2013 04:44 GMT
#12
:-)

And I don't normally say that about a map.



Thought bubble:
The natural-to-third rush distance for both bases appears to be too short for Zerg in WoL PvZ, but I think the meta has changed in a way that this should now be viable.
sCnDiamond
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany340 Posts
August 01 2013 18:38 GMT
#13
@EatThePath wrote:
I tried to use the Char marsh dirt Char marsh dirt cracked, but it made the texture grey-ish, which didn't look as i hoped. I played around with the Agria dirt rough a bit, and i think it looks a lot less clean now. I also added the lines to to 1 and 7 o'clock, so they look like the main bases and are bit more interesting to look at. Another thing i changed were the destructible rock towers. Before, they didn't really matter a lot, since they shut down an attack path were you have an alternative route right next to it. So in test games most players didn't ever bother to destroy them. Now they matter a lot more: If you destroy them, you rob your opponent of an attack path, but also block your way to your 5th expansion. If you pull your army all the way to destroy the rocks, you leave your 3rd exposed. So it's a tradeoff. You can also leave them intact, but that allows your opponent to cut off the shortest path to your 5th and 6th. Let me know what you think about the changes!

Comparison
+ Show Spoiler +
Before: [image loading]
now:
[image loading]
formerly spinnaker.
Lt_Hargrove
Profile Joined July 2013
Poland15 Posts
August 02 2013 16:12 GMT
#14
The map itself looks great. Aesthetics are similiar to some other maps and yet have their own flavour. My only concerns:
- There might be a bit too much blinkspace in the main
- The two main attack paths are very far from each other, so "accidental" base races might occur more often than normal
- You can put siege tanks next to that little harass cliff between nat and third

Other than that, this looks golden.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 23:27:10
August 02 2013 23:26 GMT
#15
wow awesome design. I can see reapers having their way on this map though. 3rd is semi open which is pretty cool. everything else is completely vanilla.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 02 2013 23:54 GMT
#16
On August 03 2013 08:26 reps)squishy wrote:
wow awesome design. I can see reapers having their way on this map though. 3rd is semi open which is pretty cool. everything else is completely vanilla.

Vanilla---like someone else I know :p
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
August 03 2013 00:42 GMT
#17
On August 03 2013 08:54 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 08:26 reps)squishy wrote:
wow awesome design. I can see reapers having their way on this map though. 3rd is semi open which is pretty cool. everything else is completely vanilla.

Vanilla---like someone else I know :p

Bahahaha. Mafia jokes. This is just a basic 1v1 map nothing special about it at all.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
August 03 2013 06:56 GMT
#18
The main and natural (or maybe just the natural) remind me of Backwater Gulch just because of the relatively narrow-looking paths and the angle to the third base (for protoss anyway, I think; that one closer to the main).
I really like the appearance and, having not played the Crysis games, it instead reminds me of something that could be in a Jurassic Park movie and probably even more of the Training Centre in Final Fantasy VIII.

Can flying units fly behind the fourth/third (in a line with main and nat), the natural and the main?
ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
SargasticSigmar
Profile Joined August 2012
Poland5 Posts
August 03 2013 07:55 GMT
#19
Love this map! <3
Ishi aru tokoro ni michi wa aru.
And G
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany491 Posts
August 18 2013 23:53 GMT
#20
Just gorgeous. This is actually not that many doodads, but they're used perfectly, and the aesthetics aren't distracting at all. I wish more maps would look like this.
not a community mapmaker
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
23:15
OSC 5000
WardiTV793
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko368
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 1715
Horang2 1412
Jaedong 1349
actioN 924
Mini 774
FanTaSy 618
Shuttle 607
EffOrt 442
Larva 374
Stork 361
[ Show more ]
Light 256
Snow 207
Mind 111
Zeus 102
Mong 90
Hyun 90
hero 83
Sea.KH 83
Sharp 76
Pusan 60
JYJ 43
Barracks 39
910 31
ToSsGirL 23
Trap 22
zelot 18
Sacsri 14
Shine 14
soO 13
Free 11
Noble 8
Dota 2
Gorgc17248
qojqva979
syndereN207
Other Games
singsing1931
olofmeister1162
B2W.Neo989
DeMusliM413
crisheroes348
Liquid`VortiX127
Hui .112
ArmadaUGS99
fpsfer 0
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL28248
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 8
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 70
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade730
• Stunt446
• Nemesis260
Upcoming Events
OSC
7h 21m
GSL
21h 21m
Epic.LAN
22h 21m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 19h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 21h
Epic.LAN
1d 22h
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
Yamato Cup
3 days
Map Test Tournament
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Ultimate Battle
3 days
Rush vs BeSt
Replay Cast
4 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-28
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.