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if it starts while the newbie game is still going, I'm going to /out
but for now /in
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k game ended, out of newbies
/in
please be gentle
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we should wait for people imho.
not my choice though
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/out, until golden sun finishes
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FINE I'LL IN BECAUSE WAVE WANTS ME TO
NOW HOLYFLARE GET IN HERE
/in
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On September 21 2013 11:55 kushm4sta wrote:
btw dp i think you are totally metaable and i plan to do it today to assert my mafia dominance over you
Well if you're both town and you meta him properly, that's not really asserting dominance, that's both him and you playing properly. So either you assume he's scum, or you're scum and he's town. afaik you haven't voted him, so I'm wondering what this post was playing at.
Regarding Pandain afking though, kush is correct, pandain will only post in thread when he has things worth mentioning/agenda worth pressing, and he'll specifically be quiet during points to bait out responses. Idk if he is town or mafia in the game since it's still ongoing (had a townread on him at the end of the mason cycle), so it's not that strange to me that he's not around.
On September 21 2013 11:43 geript wrote:
DarthPunk not being enough of an asshole. He's not town.
On September 21 2013 12:49 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 12:44 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 12:40 geript wrote:On September 21 2013 11:34 DarthPunk wrote:
So basically I agree with rayn, I want mocsta to tell us all he is policy voting Kush. Here's where he should've been looking. DP doesn't post like this as town. No real follow through or bite. Just throwaway generic DP townesque play. Firstly you're wrong. See GSL III. Secondly meta doesn't work on me. I keep telling you all and you all keep mis-using it. Thirdly I don't buy that you could have such a seemingly solid scum read on me based on that post. You keep spewing complete bullshit. I'm not going to drop a big as meta case. My points aren't based on meta. I'm not making shit about meta. I only use meta to read a very few people and for the rest it's just a way to accuse people. You're scum flat out get over it.
Isn't your reason for voting him initially specifically because of meta? Like, you wouldn't have come to this conclusion if you were playing your first game for him, right? I have a townread on DP atm after reading the exchange, and I'm specifically confused by your outright lies, and idk if you're just scum or confused.
It feels like you've tried to inject useless garbage into the thread, specifically by saying things that are in no way creating a pro-town environment,
On September 21 2013 13:00 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 12:56 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 12:52 geript wrote:On September 21 2013 12:47 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 12:45 geript wrote:On September 21 2013 11:43 geript wrote:
DarthPunk not being enough of an asshole. He's not town. So that's me saying I'm making a meta case. No DP is the only one who said shit about me making a meta case. Also. WoS needs to be lynched D2. OK i changed my mind again you're just an idiot. That is clearly a meta case as you are saying as town I am more of an arsehole; therefore I am scum because I am not being enough of an arsehole. What the fuck does that statement even mean if it is not meta? Nope. Thought processes between town and scum change automatically. You being a pussy about how you're approaching people shows your innate fear. Very early passive play. Wow, you're argument has fundamentally changed after you got pressured. You are wrong so after this game if you are town I am going to shout at you about it in the post game. Anyway rayn is right. I'm not talking to you anymore as it is not productive. I would rather you get vigged than lynched. but I hope you die either way. Ok. Well you either get lynched today or I shoot you until you're dead. Enjoy bish.
like that.
I hate reading when people just shout 'HE'S SCUM HE'S SCUM' constantly, nothing really results from it that benefits town. ATM Geript is scummiest, suspicious of kush a little bit
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On September 21 2013 22:29 LoneMeow wrote:It feels like you were just looking for someone to jump on. That doesn't feel very town way to play D1. Not enough to say I'd have a scum read on you, but I'll be watching your actions.
On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.
Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.
I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,
##Vote: Pandain
Pandains going to come back and explain his vote eventually, pressuring him into doing so won't make him come back FASTER.
Ironically, you just went out and found someone to stick your vote on :|
so I'm suspicious of koshi/lonemeow/no longer kush/kinda geript. Lonemeow most of all
##vote lonemeow
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Rather, here's why Pandain isn't scummy atm, and people who think he is are ridiculous:
Would town afk right after posting their vote?
no.
Would scum?
no.
Would town afk at the beginning of the game after being present?
no.
Would scum?
.......no.
so he SHOULD come talk in thread, but he's not scum because he hasn't. He's just a shitty lurker.
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On September 22 2013 04:28 Koshi wrote:
Dnu why people find me scummy.
I always think you're scummy!
idk, feels a bit off. nothing I'd vote you for atm.
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ebwop
I guess you haven't felt as flippant with things?
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specifically, that was the game where lonemeow was scum
idk about others
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koshis like a less extreme rayn imo, the way I read him is how sincere he sounds, but I'm still on the fence about him
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I think he took a pretty null stance on both DP and Geript, and is suspicious of mocsta? idk why though, his filters hard to understand, kinda need to read him as he responds to the thread :|
oh tyty for getting filters up maepak
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he hasn't been as opinionated as I'd expect him to be as town
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##unvote
useless to stay on lonemeow if he's not gonna be around :|
/afk
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On September 22 2013 15:45 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 14:45 WaveofShadow wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 22 2013 14:22 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 14:18 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 22 2013 14:17 Mocsta wrote:Voting for Vayne/Coag is ridiculous for Day1. They do this type of play regardless of alignment, and its a total crapshoot. At least have the kahunas to call it a policy lynch. Yamato read on me is a joke. Theres nothing to respond to, because his points is "meta" with no extension to how it actually applies to this game. Waves defense read a touch forced to me. However, a townie has every reason to "refine" their defense as well. So will give him benefit of the doubt for now.Sentinel has maintained enough activity to not be forgotten, but has essentially contributed nothing. Ideal scum "flying under the radar" play; exacerbated by his coagulation vote here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&user=[UoN]Sentinel¤tpage=3 Your backing down feels a touch forced to me, as were your original suspicions. Fine, my specific issue with your defense was the injection of the word "townie" as follows Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote:Ohai ladies. I back. A few things: For those people asking about my intentions and posting regarding DP: I played a stretch of games with him a little while ago and became fairly confident in my townread of him. Ever since playing voice mafia with him I feel like my ability is now slightly crowded since I know a little more about him and his style. My prodding served two purposes: first of all, as some of you may or may not know, DP likes to play his game with a pinch of salt, that is to say, he gets angry/annoyed pretty easily. As such after delving a little into attempting to determine his alignment I decided to see how he'd react to some dumb (and yet truthful) comments: + Show Spoiler +On September 21 2013 13:28 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 13:26 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Honestly DP I have a question for you.
Are you town?
If so, do you want to be killed N1?
Do you enjoy being killed N1? (I seem to remember that you don't.)
All of the above questions lead to these ones:
Why go hardcore (as town) right from the get-go if you know it places a target directly onto your back?
If you don't care either way, do you think you would be able to be more useful to the town in the first day than you could be as the game progresses? YEs NO NO Because clearly trying to look useless as town doesn't work for me in not getting killed (persona 4) so I am trying to play the best I can and be clearly townie and scumhunt so that: A) I can give town the best possible start if I do die. B) potentially get medic protected Also: C) I feel like posting and scum hunting cause it's fun. This is also totally how you play as 3P survivor. Are you 3P DP? On September 21 2013 14:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:16 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 14:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
@DP
geript is by far the most suspicious person in the thread so far. It's possible he'd acting the way he's acting to get reactions or some such retardation, but unless he says as much and I believe him, I have to assume that he's not playing like a moron and that he's scummy for it.
He has no meta case. He has an observation that he's supposedly suspicious over for meta reasons. I don't care enough to go check out the game because I know from my own experiences with you that you're able to have an amicable opening regardless of your alignment. And the rest of what you've done (aside from saying you want me to tunnel a townie -.-) has read pretty town to me.
As it stands, I'm the most suspicious of geript of anyone who's posted. I basically agree with you but I'm not sure Moron necessarily = scum. I'm also worried about Mocsta and Wave for basically refusing to comment on geript or read that part of the thread. They seem to dismiss it as a squabble and meaningless when it is, in fact, the opposite. I'm not sure how I am supposed to take people seriously when they don't/refuse to properly read people's posts. It's pretty damn meaningless. DP didn't take easy bait here and has actively REALLY attempted to avoid shitting things up despite an aggravating geript (who I'm pretty sure is town, btw) and me to a lesser degree pushing him. More likely town for that as it's really easy to pawn off or excuse early game shitfests/trolling. The second purpose of my prodding, specifically the questions post, is that not only did I actually want to know the legitimate answers to those questions (which DP answered very well imo) I also wanted to gauge some other reactions to those questions as some people have noticed, is kind of an odd line of questioning and essentially only pertains to DP's specific meta, which I will explain here for people who don't know. DP is known as a very strong town player. As such he is often a target of mafia kills extremely early in many games, including dying on N0 games before he can even DO anything. He absolutely hates this (almost as much as he hates 3P survivor apparently, for similar reasons---hence my bait about 3P despite there obviously not being one in this game. DP didn't take it  ) The reason I asked him here is because as a townie, I very much want a town DP to be on my side and a part of the game as long as possible, so I was wondering if perhaps he would have considered changing his posting style slightly so if town, he could survive mafia hits a while longer. This doesn't appear to be the case and is perfectly fine. + Show Spoiler +
Hopefully I will have no caught up to everything relevant regarding me up until recently.
New stuff:
Marv what do you make of justanothertownie's reaction to my questions? Certainly a very easy point of attack, yet even the people who have voted me thus far haven't bothered with it. It honestly looks as though he is hiding behind not knowing DP's meta and as soon as someone provides an explanation for him he will be ready to drop the point of suspicion and will have 'contributed' something.
Yamato, come on dude. You're not that bad.
Frankly, that doesn't read like a natural stream of consciousness to me. As I said, because it was a defense, I think town or scum could have "refined" that statement by adding the clause "as a townie". Its an issue to me; but in isolation I don't want to lynch you over it. Overall your posting has been consistent in confidence. Bigger fish to fry; and sentinel represents a higher percentage to be scum as far as I am concerned. It's an issue to people like you who try to lynch/suspect people over semantics, because then if I don't use those specific words you say something like: "Of course you want a town DP to be on your side as scum!" It's horseshit, Mocsta. I accept the fact that you've backed down from me because you realized your suspicion was dumb as balls. So you're voting Sentinel because he's policy voting Coag for being useless huh? What is the difference between this and your vote on Sentinel himself? I don't see it if there is one. Well fisrtly, you are taking the whole situation out of context. Its quite clear what I took issue in. It is far from semantics. What you wrote was not a genuine thought. It was refined. Its common knowledge that scum are typically the ones who struggle to post and need to incessantly proof-read their posts. So far from semantics. Nice attempt at ad-hom as well. If you want to keep up this aggressive tone, lay down a vote on me; or shut the fuck up. My sentinel vote is far from policy lynch. I outlined why I think he is worthy of a vote based on flying under the radar by attempting to appear active, but actually contributing nothing. The same goes for Umasi. Sentinels, coag vote *was* for being useless etc, which as I outlined prior is dumb. Because players like that are 'lottery draws" on day1, regardless of being town or scum.
What makes it seem like I'm trying to fly under the radar? And I was contributing, why do you say I wasn't?
and it was useless to stay on you lonemeow because it's not the votes going to pressure you at all, and you're still more than likely town.
~and so far, your reaction to it has been pretty townie imo, but this wasn't relevant at the time I unvoted because you hadn't responded~
(oh also, saw this in the mafia database earlier, less than 25% of day 1 lynches actually lynch scum, so truly you are a god among men mocsta)
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Kush, I have no idea what goes through your head half the time, but whatever it is it's totally kickass.
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I think ray is probably town
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