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Manlier
Profile Joined December 2010
United States32 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 14:03:09
July 05 2013 14:00 GMT
#1
I come to a public forum, to discuss the problems I saw while watching MLG Anaheim 2013. The threads I started are now deleted. There needs to be some type of criticism out of the community for you to improve.

When I come here to talk about clear problems that exist within esports. My threads are deleted and given less the 5 minutes of discussion. The whole point of a forum is to have open discussion. Team liquid, however is not interested in hard criticism it can take from the people they support and love. Let alone grow up like the rest of us adults. Many of the people in esports, at the top level, display the behaviors of adolescent high schoolers and some have been removed or suspended for play by their teams; rightfully so.

If your continue to cater to the crowd of kids and send the message of You don't need to go to school, you can drop out and become esports pro. Well then your left with a community of cheats and half wits that take away for the legitimate hard work of a few in esports. If it doesn't start with quality control, then your already selling a bad product. Go home and get a college degree like some smart individuals have done who left esports. GG NO RE.

http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144713
"Things never happen the same way twice" C.S. Lewis
legoboomette
Profile Joined December 2011
England165 Posts
July 05 2013 14:01 GMT
#2
This will get deleted
Won(*3*)Chu KissMe!
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 14:05:34
July 05 2013 14:03 GMT
#3
Step 1. Write thread asking question that is answered within the first page by only person with inside information (Scarlett).
Step 2. Complain when dumb thread that has already been answered is closed. Accuse well known and universally loved community figure of cheating. (LOL) Accuse well known and well-liked player of being a hacker. (LOL)
Step 3: ???????
Step 4: Profit. (Ban)
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
July 05 2013 14:03 GMT
#4
This thread upsets me.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Manlier
Profile Joined December 2010
United States32 Posts
July 05 2013 14:04 GMT
#5
you mean hacker scarlett

ESCScarlett
http://drop.sc/players/US/2331025/ECScarlett
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2331025/1/ECScarlett/
"Things never happen the same way twice" C.S. Lewis
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 14:07:24
July 05 2013 14:04 GMT
#6
i think this should be in the blog section

edit just watched the link you posted, you have no idea of anything you say ROFL.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
July 05 2013 14:05 GMT
#7
Hey I just met you,
and this is crazy,
but http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/myblog.php
so blog it, maybe?
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 14:06:59
July 05 2013 14:05 GMT
#8
You accused Day9 of cheating with dubious evidence, if I were a mod, I'd think it's a bit slanderous. Also this isn't really in the correct section of the forum. And even if you may be right about the players hearing the casters, the casters are just talking about the game, they're not trying to favor anybody that might hear them, that's ridiculous.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Manlier
Profile Joined December 2010
United States32 Posts
July 05 2013 14:05 GMT
#9
<3
"Things never happen the same way twice" C.S. Lewis
Mariosatr
Profile Joined September 2012
294 Posts
July 05 2013 14:06 GMT
#10
I think you should be the one who needs to be more mature.

"display the behaviors of adolescent high schoolers" - Actually, they display the age of people their age (which in some cases is 14-15, some cases over 20).

"send the message You don't need to go to school, you can drop out and become esports pro" - This isn't true at all, most people tend to not try and spend all their time on Starcraft because they want to be at the top tier earning money, but instead because they enjoy it. Most people tend to become a pro because they enjoy it and they are good at it.

"Go home and get a college degree" - Actually, this is what quite a few of us over at TeamLiquid do
A mind sharper than any blade.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 14:08:41
July 05 2013 14:07 GMT
#11
Need... to ... post... in... this....

On July 05 2013 23:05 Dienosore wrote:
Hey I just met you,
and this is crazy,
but http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/myblog.php
so blog it, maybe?


Also i love you
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 05 2013 14:07 GMT
#12
yaay another report for me
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Manlier
Profile Joined December 2010
United States32 Posts
July 05 2013 14:07 GMT
#13
Naniwa is the only person needing to know when Dear's Twilight console went up, after Day9 told everyone that dear was going one gate expand with sentry mothershipcore.

Everyone in the building, can see that the building is going up, and know/understand its implications. Only an utter noob would need to know INSTANTLY what that building was and when it was going up.
"Things never happen the same way twice" C.S. Lewis
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
July 05 2013 14:08 GMT
#14
On July 05 2013 23:00 Manlier wrote:
I come to a public forum, to discuss the problems I saw while watching MLG Anaheim 2013. The threads I started are now deleted. There needs to be some type of criticism out of the community for you to improve.

When I come here to talk about clear problems that exist within esports. My threads are deleted and given less the 5 minutes of discussion. The whole point of a forum is to have open discussion. Team liquid, however is not interested in hard criticism it can take from the people they support and love. Let alone grow up like the rest of us adults. Many of the people in esports, at the top level, display the behaviors of adolescent high schoolers and some have been removed or suspended for play by their teams; rightfully so.

If your continue to cater to the crowd of kids and send the message of You don't need to go to school, you can drop out and become esports pro. Well then your left with a community of cheats and half wits that take away for the legitimate hard work of a few in esports. If it doesn't start with quality control, then your already selling a bad product. Go home and get a college degree like some smart individuals have done who left esports. GG NO RE.

http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144713

yr a butt
Manlier
Profile Joined December 2010
United States32 Posts
July 05 2013 14:08 GMT
#15
There was no Real Time Casting done by Day9. He was feeding information to Nani all game.
"Things never happen the same way twice" C.S. Lewis
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 05 2013 14:08 GMT
#16
lol is this for real
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
July 05 2013 14:08 GMT
#17
On July 05 2013 23:00 Manlier wrote:
My threads are deleted.

The whole point of a forum is to have open discussion.

Team liquid, however is not interested in hard criticism.

There needs to be some type of criticism ... for you to improve.


Okay... but lack of tolerance for intelligent critique isn't the reason they're being closed, methinks....


grow up like the rest of us adults.


Many of the people in esports display the behaviors of adolescent high schoolers

Go home and get a college degree like some smart individuals have done who left esports. GG NO RE.
[/quote]

Not the best way to start a constructive discussion...

plus...

Day9 and his co-caster cheated for players


you can't make sensational claims like this and expect good discussion...
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
July 05 2013 14:08 GMT
#18
manlier your so freakinmg pathetic

@teddyoojo, TT you sniped it from me
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
July 05 2013 14:08 GMT
#19
Well this thread went down the drain fast, you know guys just because you think a thread is bad doesn't give you the right to post whatever you want and make it even worse.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
July 05 2013 14:08 GMT
#20
When I first read your OP, I thought, Poor guy. Dude just wants to give honest criticism and engage in open discussion for the sake of the TL community.

Then I read through the thread you posted and I can tell why your threads keep getting closed now
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