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[G] Patrol Splitting: Zerglings vs Mines and more

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hearters
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 17:53:56
May 27 2013 09:50 GMT
#1
Zerglings vs Widow Mines again(12 June 2013)

Zerglings vs Widow Mines in ZvT

Banelings vs Ling/Bane in ZvZ


Splitting is a micro technique that requires attention and lots of precise mouse control, especially for smaller units like zerglings, banelings and marines. It is useful when combating units with splash damage.

Patrol splitting is the simple technique of using the patrol command to split your units without using as much mouse control or attention.

For zerglings or banelings, you will issue a shift+attackmove command after the patrol command. This creates somewhat of a splitting effect. It may be safer for ling/baneling to always travel around the map in this way, as it significantly reduces the losses when encountering widow mines. When marines are behind the widow marines, your lings will clump up around the marines and can still suffer major splash damage. To avoid this, box the first 10 lings or so and move command them behind the enemy marines. It will be much easier to box the first bunch of lings compared to without the split.

For marines, you should select the marines, shift+patrol a few times nearby(each time about 3 range away), then hold position when you're satisfied with the spacing. Then you are pre-split against ling/baneling and can magic box your marines forward. You can also leave them to patrol if you have tanks sieging the zerg.




Next tip/guide will probably be on mutalisks vs widow mines, because I really hate widow mines.
Research: 1. Creep Spread Trick 2. Patrol Splitting Zerglings 3. Multiple Queen Production 4. Organised Creep Spread 5. Select Larvae/Morph Unit Rapidfire
Mahtasooma
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany475 Posts
May 27 2013 10:50 GMT
#2
This is awesome and super easy. Thanks!
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 27 2013 10:59 GMT
#3
I thought most people new about patrol splitting but I guess not!
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playerboy345
Profile Joined May 2013
Netherlands194 Posts
May 27 2013 11:05 GMT
#4
I didn't know about this, thanks!
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
May 27 2013 11:06 GMT
#5
I always wondered why almost no zerg at high master level uses this
Chrono000
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Korea (South)358 Posts
May 27 2013 11:09 GMT
#6
nice
IcemanAsi
Profile Joined March 2011
Israel681 Posts
May 27 2013 11:20 GMT
#7
Cool, thanks, I wonder if this is good to use when defending ling/bane all-ins ( with your own banes ) cause that's a problem I'm having.
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
May 27 2013 11:38 GMT
#8
Awesome trick, thanks!
hmm, now to find an easier key than 'P' to bind patrol to, been meaning to do it for a while :\
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 27 2013 11:49 GMT
#9
That's a really nifty trick right there, nice stuff!

On May 27 2013 18:50 hearters wrote:
Next tip/guide will probably be on mutalisks vs widow mines, because I really hate widow mines.


This made me laugh.
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KuKKi
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany73 Posts
May 27 2013 12:29 GMT
#10
On May 27 2013 20:38 vol_ wrote:
Awesome trick, thanks!
hmm, now to find an easier key than 'P' to bind patrol to, been meaning to do it for a while :\


i did rebind patrol to 'N'. Very convenient location i think, at least way better than 'P'
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
May 27 2013 12:38 GMT
#11
Its about time I moved the patrol to Q. This seems like a good enough reason it works really well
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
May 27 2013 12:40 GMT
#12
Now we just need a guide on how to split full Medivacs when under Widow Mines.
playerboy345
Profile Joined May 2013
Netherlands194 Posts
May 27 2013 12:41 GMT
#13
On May 27 2013 21:40 BronzeKnee wrote:
Now we just need a guide on how to split full Medivacs when under Widow Mines.


Don't make widow mines, problem solved!
anatase
Profile Joined May 2010
France532 Posts
May 27 2013 12:44 GMT
#14
oh my shit this is awesome
ManiacTheZealot
Profile Joined December 2009
United States490 Posts
May 27 2013 12:48 GMT
#15
Here's another way. It's basically the same thing except that after issuing the first patrol command you box smaller groups and patrol them in different directions for greater spread then shift patrol in the direction you want to head. This makes me wish starcraft had formation movements. I think that would add some more depth to the game.

hearters
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore224 Posts
May 27 2013 12:58 GMT
#16
On May 27 2013 21:48 ManiacTheZealot wrote:
This makes me wish starcraft had formation movements. I think that would add some more depth to the game.


On a smaller scale, magic box is formation movement.

When your selection is larger than the magic box, you can attackmove on the minimap as far as possible in the direction you want to move. The further the target, the more 'in formation' your units will move, just like how the sun's rays appear parallel because it's kinda far away from us.

I haven't really used that yet, but it seems like it could be practical if practised.
Research: 1. Creep Spread Trick 2. Patrol Splitting Zerglings 3. Multiple Queen Production 4. Organised Creep Spread 5. Select Larvae/Morph Unit Rapidfire
moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
May 27 2013 13:07 GMT
#17
Maniac the whole point is to lower the actions needed, you can just manually split 5 lings and only lose them, but in a game you want it to be as simple as possible.

Anyways I really like the videos, patrol splitting was known for splitting versus Banelings, but I guess there is no reason to use it in other matchups as well I am sure there a lot more things that can be carried over from race to race, just need to think out side the box.
ManiacTheZealot
Profile Joined December 2009
United States490 Posts
May 27 2013 13:25 GMT
#18
On May 27 2013 22:07 moskonia wrote:
Maniac the whole point is to lower the actions needed, you can just manually split 5 lings and only lose them, but in a game you want it to be as simple as possible.

Anyways I really like the videos, patrol splitting was known for splitting versus Banelings, but I guess there is no reason to use it in other matchups as well I am sure there a lot more things that can be carried over from race to race, just need to think out side the box.


Well if you're moving a large group not just 5 and you don't know where the mines are or there's marines with the mines to kill your lings if you only send a couple this would be less effort.
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
June 07 2013 23:09 GMT
#19
so the sequence is:

patrol click (to nearby)
hold shift
attack move past target

correct?
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hearters
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 01:31:01
June 08 2013 01:29 GMT
#20
On June 08 2013 08:09 Lobotomist wrote:
so the sequence is:

patrol click (to nearby)
hold shift
attack move past target

correct?


Yup

For lings vs biomine, you want to
patrol click (to nearby)
hold shift
move behind bio

to drag the mines
Research: 1. Creep Spread Trick 2. Patrol Splitting Zerglings 3. Multiple Queen Production 4. Organised Creep Spread 5. Select Larvae/Morph Unit Rapidfire
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