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SPoF
Profile Joined August 2012
Luxembourg19 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 17:33:41
March 11 2013 17:10 GMT
#1
Source:Battle.net

Seems like Blizz wants fewer players stuck in Bronze. They decreased the Bronze percentage to 8% an gave the 12 missing percent to Gold, saying that Bronze had a too wide skill-range while Gold was too narrow:

While it appears to display an equal distribution of skill level across the board, we found that the current system brought about scenarios in which Bronze encompassed a skill range that was too broad to be meaningful, while Gold was too narrow. As a result, the lowest ranked players in Bronze often tended to be far removed from the skill level of those at the top, or even the middle of the league. As such, we're going to alter the population percentages for Bronze, Silver, and Gold leagues in order to equalize these skill gaps, and help each feel more meaningful.


New League Distribution will be:

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"When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading."- Henry Youngman
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
March 11 2013 17:13 GMT
#2
So it's going to more like a bell curve now?

No complaints, really.
Cereal
bennedik
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany127 Posts
March 11 2013 17:13 GMT
#3
I think you mean "less" players stuck in bronze?
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28090 Posts
March 11 2013 17:15 GMT
#4
Interesting. Doesn't affect me, but it might help the lower leagues.
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algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
March 11 2013 17:17 GMT
#5
This means that bronze is worse than ever and that gold and silver players should'nt be proud of being out of bronze
rly ?
Kasu
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom345 Posts
March 11 2013 17:18 GMT
#6
On March 12 2013 02:13 bennedik wrote:
I think you mean "less" players stuck in bronze?

"Fewer", if we're being pedantic
SPoF
Profile Joined August 2012
Luxembourg19 Posts
March 11 2013 17:28 GMT
#7
Well if that is your only concern, I will comply
"When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading."- Henry Youngman
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 17:31:16
March 11 2013 17:31 GMT
#8
kind of interesting~ I think there's a pretty huge variance in skill towards the the top end too. The top end of masters compared to the bottom may as well be the difference between bronze and masters.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 17:56:49
March 11 2013 17:31 GMT
#9
Source link isn't working for me.

Edit: Works now.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
March 11 2013 17:34 GMT
#10
Everyone likes a good confidence boost. If your a more casual player staying your "stuck" in gold does not sound so shameful as bronze/silver
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
March 11 2013 17:44 GMT
#11
I stay in chat channels a lot and stuff, and I like see either the lower league players bronze-silver, or the higher leagues plat-master, but like gold is much more rare for some reason. Maybe it's just me though, but still I guess that will increase the gold population and decrease the giant skill range between the lower and upper parts of bronze.
Negius
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands290 Posts
March 11 2013 17:51 GMT
#12
I like this change, it just feels better playing Starcraft once you're promoted
[Terran] mvp | maru | innovation | mma [Protoss] mc | squirtle [Zerg] nestea | soo
KillerDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States498 Posts
March 11 2013 17:53 GMT
#13
Bronze now the most exclusive league after GM and Masters.
MarineKingPrime Forever!
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
March 11 2013 17:59 GMT
#14
On March 12 2013 02:53 KillerDucky wrote:
Bronze now the most exclusive league after GM and Masters.


The bronze border looks pretty good actually.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
March 11 2013 18:08 GMT
#15
I feel like this is going to lower the skill level for silver/gold, allowing for players that may not be skilled enough for Platinum league to get promoted by playing players who were formerly bronze/silver in skill.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 18:12:16
March 11 2013 18:11 GMT
#16
On March 12 2013 02:59 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 02:53 KillerDucky wrote:
Bronze now the most exclusive league after GM and Masters.


The bronze border looks pretty good actually.

Best border after unranked.

On March 12 2013 03:08 vultdylan wrote:
I feel like this is going to lower the skill level for silver/gold, allowing for players that may not be skilled enough for Platinum league to get promoted by playing players who were formerly bronze/silver in skill.

That's not how that works. You're promoted by MMR. You have to play mid platinum players and win consistently against them to be able to get a promotion. No worries there.
Treehead
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
999 Posts
March 11 2013 18:16 GMT
#17
Just another example of Blizzard shamelessly catering to casuals. I personally feel offended by the amount of work I had to put into playing at the Gold level to have it just GIVEN to horrible players.

I keed, I keed. Doesn't affect me either. I would find it hilarious and amusing, though, if they did something like this and greatly expanded master's league. I wonder how differently that would be receieved...
MaxViktory
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden136 Posts
March 11 2013 18:17 GMT
#18
So what are the percentages now? I thought I read somewhere that the size of masters was decreased in the last patch of WOL. Could that be correct?
8%, 20%, 32%, 20%, 18%, 2%, 200?
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 18:29:04
March 11 2013 18:22 GMT
#19
Makes sense to me if what they're saying checks out, good change

On March 12 2013 03:16 Treehead wrote:
Just another example of Blizzard shamelessly catering to casuals. I personally feel offended by the amount of work I had to put into playing at the Gold level to have it just GIVEN to horrible players.

I keed, I keed. Doesn't affect me either. I would find it hilarious and amusing, though, if they did something like this and greatly expanded master's league. I wonder how differently that would be receieved...


Chill out man, like you said, it's not the top top so it's not like they're giving up spots of great players to bad ones and somehow "tainting" what it means to be in gold lol I don't think anyone really cares, most people are still trying to rise up the ranks at gold. Plus if it's going to more balance out skill levels like they say, it's a good change.

Edit: oh oops, I didn't read the second part properly haha
SooYoung-Noona!
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Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
March 11 2013 18:23 GMT
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