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as the rest of my ban got cancelled. | ||
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There might be some new player who thinks the game is already full because they don't know you. | ||
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Hi all! | ||
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On March 22 2013 12:52 JarJarDrinks wrote: Hey all, Don't worry I wont lurk @ all once the game starts rolling. Being how I've never played against any of y'all I have nothing to base any read off so I probably wont throw down a vote untill everyone's posted a bit. It's pretty interesting you say this. How do you propose we actually get the game going if everyone acts like this? | ||
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Why so defensive? Afraid of something? | ||
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I find it really odd that people post about Harry Potter stuff when there actually is something to talk to. That doesn't really qualify as "get the game going", does it? | ||
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Don't you find it odd that people do not talk anything relevant to the game when there is stuff to talk about? I understand people's first posts usually say nothing (or very little) but when there is something to talk about (in this case three votes and a FoS and at least one post i found interesting and worth questioning) there is no excuse to continue with posting something that does not help you find mafia. | ||
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On March 22 2013 22:28 TheRavensName wrote: I gotta agree that jarjars post and hostility might be a little suspicious... however I know I did something similar in the last nmm and ended up doing some pretty decent work so I see no reason to punish it till after other people show up. Day 1 is a scary and uncertain period for those unsure how to get the ball rolling. What's hostile in JarJar's posts? | ||
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##Unvote: JarJarDrinks ##Vote: TheRavensName | ||
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On March 22 2013 23:03 Frorgon wrote: What's wrong Raven? You guys trying to cover each other's ass? If they are covering each other, why would JarJar point out Raven's suspicious actions? On top of saying "JarJar is hostile" - look at the the post: I gotta agree that jarjars post and hostility might be a little suspicious... however I know I did something similar in the last nmm and ended up doing some pretty decent work so I see no reason to punish it till after other people show up. Day 1 is a scary and uncertain period for those unsure how to get the ball rolling. - Raven "agrees with me" that JarJar is hostile. I have never implied i think JarJar is being hostile. Raven is basically saying i think JarJar is hostile which is a pure lie. Because i don't think so. - Raven is saying "JarJar might be suspicious but might not be". What's the point of saying so? Someone is suspicious or not. Mafia tends to do that because they would already know they are accusing a townie and it's easier to retract from your accusation if you give yourself an out in the first place. - "Day 1 is a scary and uncertain period for those unsure how to get the ball rolling". Spreading fear. There is no point saying this kinda stuff if you are town. We need discussion and you are not promoting it here at all. You are doing the opposite. This is not townielike at all. I think TheRavensName is mafia. | ||
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What you are saying in your post is either obvious or repeating stuff that other people have said. So you are not really saying much. Do you think TheRavensName is mafia or not at the moment? You pointed out something yet you lack the conclusion. | ||
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I called JarJar out because i found it odd he needed to tell everyone he isn't gonna lurk. I don't think that was a "bunch of shit". It also started the discussion. Why do you think calling out little stuff early on in the game is scummy? Because there is nothing but little stuff to start with. I thought the hostile meant his behaviour is hostile, not that the word hostile=scum. Why do you think Raven meant it that way? It's not sheeping if you agree with someone. I made the same observation he did and pointed it out (in addition i pointed out other stuff i found out scummy in Raven's post). Based on what JarJar has said i'm leaning town on him. He's being open and actually does shit that makes sense. What's your read on Raven? | ||
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Do you agree with me in my post where i told why i think Raven is scummy? If yes, why, if not, why? | ||
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On March 23 2013 00:19 virtu wrote: rayn: Not really repeating anything people have said, and if it was obvious then you wouldn't have been the one telling people to comment on the votes that have been made instead of saying hi and commenting on flavour. I dislike his post in it's entirety, but I'm not reading too much into it for now. What he's said in his defence is true (link) Omni does indeed step in and defend him here, for a very similar post and mistake. Passing this off as a townie mistake for now. The thing is. Look at what has happened. There are two people voting for me atm. For what? For me trying to figure out stuff. I like to vote, my vote will always be on a person i find out to be scummiest at the moment. I presented my case for people to discuss it and i am sticking with it until it's proven i am wrong or we find someone who is more scummy. I understand this might be a townie mistake, i just don't think it is. And using "what someone else did in some other game" isn't really a defence that convinces me. If Raven actually starts scumhunting, contributing and making observations that make sense i'm willing to reconsider my vote. If he is in fact town the best defence is to start finding mafia. So far the only person that's really caught my attention is ray, for how aggressive he's being, the speed of which he's exchanged his focus and vote. These are all points that have been brought up by others, but it's the only truly suspicious thing happening atm. @ray what do you hope to achieve by switching focus at the drop of a pin with your agressiveness? two or three more posts like that and you're going after half the thread. Do you think this is an effective way to find mafia? why? Early on it's effective to question people as much as possible. We get discussion and everyone needs to participate. I am not "switching my focus", voting for someone you think is mafia tells that you actually think they are mafia and you are not just being wishy-washy. I never really thought JarJar was mafia. Note that i voted him earlier than he posted. My vote being on him had nothing to do with what he said later. I just didn't bother to change my vote because voting for someone also pressures them to do things. Which JarJar then did. It's that simple. ------ Another note. There is no point in going after lurkers now. They will post later, if they don't, we lynch them. Period. Note that TheRavensName also noticed this, but a part of his case against me is me "Why did he drop Jar to focus on me instead of calling out more people who were lurking". I don't even know what to say.. So i am being voted for being aggressive (does aggressive = scum?), for trying to promote discussion and getting the discussion started and for voting for a person i think is mafia (with a case that noone has proven to be wrong). I don't care to defend myself because it's so silly. And yes, Frorgron's post is another thing that bothers me at the moment. I even asked him about it and i am expecting an answer when he comes back. | ||
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On March 23 2013 00:52 Rainbows wrote: Well I had the giant ass case on scum and he basically said I was wrong, super defended himself, and that I was scum for it. Anyway, I'm a bit confused as to Ray's intentions in all of these shennanies. @Ray I don't think Raven is scum solely based on the evidence given. Talk to me. Do you really believe he is scum atm? What about guys with zero pressure on them such as Frogon and Virtu? So easy for scum to hide in a shitfest such as this. Hell, what dost thou thinkest of ME? Atm i do. He should stop defending himself and start trying to find mafia instead. That's the best defence. I explained Frorgon in my earlier post. I don't understand why virtu (and you guys) think being aggressive = scum. Other than that he is questioning people at the moment. That's enough for me atm. Btw why exactly are you voting for him? You seem to be doing stuff and trying to figure out things. Nothing in your actions makes me think you are mafia atm. | ||
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