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This Town Ain't Big Enough Mafia
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yamato77
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Setup too good. | ||
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yamato77
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Yeah, fuck. If I did play, though, I'd insta-duel Marv the beginning of day 1 and troll the piss out of him. | ||
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yamato77
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I will have plenty of time if this is the case And no, I won't insta-duel anyone. Maybe. | ||
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yamato77
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I might out tomorrow once I know what my schedule looks like but I might be able to play, and this setup is quite interesting. | ||
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yamato77
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If we all agree on someone to lynch, I'll duel them and make sure it goes through. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 25 2013 05:05 Hapahauli wrote: This a problem? I've never had problems being super-paranoid early days. I'm talking about consolidation and getting town to agree on the choices, not personal reads. Picking two people that everyone agrees are scummy is many times more difficult than picking just one person and having a townie player duel them and get them lynched. | ||
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yamato77
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This way people are directly responsible for their accusations. If you're going to call someone mafia, you should go against him and prove it. Picking two scummy looking players just makes it that much easier for mafia to fake scum hunting. If you hit mafia with the lynch using my method, you have a ton of information to lynch his buddies with. | ||
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yamato77
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For the record, if the deadline is coming up and people are arguing incessantly about these two choices, I'm going to just pick one and lynch him. I'm your insurance, I suppose, because my method isn't a best-case scenario idea of the lynch like getting town to consolidate on two choices. | ||
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yamato77
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I understand how having one town looking player duel one mafia looking player might stagnate discussion after the duel. I do think I will be able to extract enough information from the selection period to make a good lynch decision on my own, however, should town fail to implement you guy's plan effectively. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 25 2013 06:33 Hapahauli wrote: I feel like you're treating this too much like the wild-west and not enough like a mafia game Yamato. The Duel mechanic can absolutely fuck us over if used rashly. I trust my own ability to read the game. I'm not going to be dueling people on a whim, I'll be doing it if I feel that town is needlessly arguing themselves out of lynch choices and things aren't clear, like I think will inevitably happen when you're trying to pick TWO lynches, as opposed to one like a normal game. Half the time, town has a difficult enough time consolidating on one person. Two people is going to be many times more confusing. I want clarity of decision making, and what I am is insurance of that. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 25 2013 06:46 Hapahauli wrote: Hence the policy I proposed earlier. @ Marv Can you expand on Cora? Policies are bad, because no one ever follows them and even if you do, it's a fucking policy and there's no discussion. Hapa you're not this retarded. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 25 2013 06:46 marvellosity wrote: It's not insanely difficult to enforce. It should be not too hard to find at least the group of people we want to lynch into, and then give a deadline/ultimatum for 2 of them to duel, or if there's 1 clear frontrunner, give a couple of people the choice of whether they want to duel with the frontrunner. Actually the information you'll get from how people deal with this while under suspicion is probably far greater than any information you'll get from just having one clear townie dueling with someone suspicious. Whether ppl duel like they're asked, or go afk, how the suspects deal with the whole dueling situation - there's a whole mine of good shit there. Further, I overwhelmingly back my judgement on who mafia are and are not over yours, yamato, so the last thing I need is you running off playing the hero. In this situation, you're spreading out the pressure and possibility of getting lynched among many people, which makes it inherently more difficult to gauge the game state for mafia. I agree with the idea in sentiment, that is, if it worked perfectly it does well, but I think you're going to have a hard time getting people to apply the real pressure of lynch on the people you want to feel pressured without people like me with our finger on the trigger. | ||
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yamato77
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In a group of people with a few people pointing their guns at many. Or As one person, with a gun to your head. It's an inexact analogy, but it serves to show how I view the situation. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 25 2013 06:52 Hapahauli wrote: What in the fuck... /wrists First of all, the "policy" I proposed is not a deviation from common sense. If we ask a person to duel another person, and he refuses to do so, that person is suspicious as fuck and should be considered a lynch candidate. So there's two people, you tell both of them to duel each other, but neither of them will, or they duel someone else. What are you going to do now? | ||
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yamato77
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You guys do whatever you want. If town is fucking around like I think they will, I'm going to make sure SOMEONE that I think is mafia gets lynched. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 25 2013 06:59 marvellosity wrote: Why do you think town will? As far as I can see you're the one in the thread being retarded so far, so if it does it'll be because of people like you. Like I said, the last thing town needs is someone like you playing the hero. The last thing town needs is a bunch of people yelling at each other to duel someone else. But whatever, do what you want. I'm only going to duel someone if things go bad, which I think they will. If they go your way, good, but I doubt it. Town is rarely that cooperative. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 25 2013 07:04 marvellosity wrote: See LIX, town did whatever I told them to because I had the right answers. If you go into the game thinking town is going to fuck up, that's a self-fulfilling prophecy. I don't see any reason why things should 'go bad', and your attitude is unnecessarily negative. I'm a realist. LIX had you, Sandro, toad, and wbg leading town. I have no idea if you're even town yet and I probably won't for a while, so no, I'm not comfortable with this town becoming a sheep fest, and I don't think it should even if you are town. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 25 2013 07:04 iamperfection wrote: meh you just haven't experienced many good towns im gonna guess mafia will be under pressure from this setup im gonna guess since time is on our side. And looking at the player list some of the better players will likely be town so we will be able to sweat the mafia i would say We'll see. That's the last I'm going to say on the matter. | ||
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