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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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November 19 2012 02:11 GMT
#25
/IN THE FUCK in
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 19 2012 21:35 GMT
#132
##I have no idea what's going on brb gotta read about chrono trigger
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 19 2012 21:58 GMT
#145
oh god why does everyone in this game look like dragon ball z
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 19 2012 22:02 GMT
#147
Wait they have teleporting pods?
##get in the teleporting pod but accidentally be in there with some kind of awesome animal thus gaining its powers and abilities
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 20 2012 15:28 GMT
#197
so I guess they wouldn't let me use the teleporter pods?
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 20 2012 16:54 GMT
#201
On November 21 2012 01:18 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 00:28 strongandbig wrote:
so I guess they wouldn't let me use the teleporter pods?


Since you weren't wearing anything that would mess with the pods, the pods worked as intended! Both you and the animal got teleported to the 2nd pod 20 feet right of you! *Everyone Cheers* What a rush!


##buy some really reflective clothing

teleporter pods work like microwave ovens right? with, like, some kind of radiation?
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 21 2012 13:49 GMT
#640
holy shit there are 400 unread posts

like, fuck
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 21 2012 13:53 GMT
#645
On November 21 2012 11:01 Promethelax wrote:
I see Acro has sniped me in terms of the idea of any potential leader posting their core group. Has anyone played in a similar set-up before? Or does anyone have the link to Resistance? I haven't read it.

Based on the fact that Acro had the same though as me and from our last game together I would currently, put him in my team, along with Acro I would add Marv (come on, wouldn't you?) and as third player I would chose Hapa. Hapa is a guy who over many games I have come to like and respect though I once hated him. He is a great town player and a kinda crappy scum player, seems like the right guy to have along for the ride.

TL:DR My team: Acro, Marv, Hapa

I'm curious if putting one player who seems like a liability (one of the guys known for trolling or one of the smurfs) onto the team so that we can get a read on them from their actions makes sense? It seems like we won't have lynches but knowing who scum is/is not will help town players direct any and all actions which they have and i assume making sure that non-town players not being on the quest team will be a good thing for us as the OP specifies that they can make it more difficult to achieve our objectives.


I actually really like the bolded idea, especially if the party leader explicitly says which of their party they're picking as the "liability" and why. Personally, I think this could be a good way to get reads on people like Marv and Toad who are notoriously hard to pin down.

fyi to the thread, I'm supposed to be at work in ten minutes (lol) but I'll be reading through the thread as the afternoon goes on and I'll be posting my reactions to things I see like this.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 21 2012 13:54 GMT
#646
On November 21 2012 11:03 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm reading up on resistance mafia, as it was said the setups might be simillar in some ways and I'm not familiar with it.
Just got lynched in my other game so can focus on this starting tomorrow.

I nominate myself as our heroic leader because almost everyone here doesn't know me. That way you won't be fooled by people playing wifom games with their meta!


this is probably a joke/troll post but if he's serious this is some terrible logic
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 21 2012 15:11 GMT
#702
On November 21 2012 11:17 sandroba wrote:
I hereby declare I want to lead you simpletons to victory. My party selection will be as following: I will choose 3 of the less known players who I read as town at the end of the day to compose the party. The reasoning is that this mechanic will greatly favor town in attempting to confirm players. This is better done for players less likely to get shot for 2 reasons: 1) They have less meta information available on them therefore harder to read. 2) Vets/Well known players are likely to get killed n1 if they are town, even more so given a successful mission, mitigating some of the advantage town might get. This serves to both preserve the good/known players and to keep the confirmed/likely town around longer.
I'd like everyone to chime in on this subject of party selection and help come to the optimum way of doing things.

tone: lol
content: I worry that this might be overestimating the importance of figuring out which players are town, and underestimating the importance of actually winning the minigames. Remember, this was the game where the hosts warned that it might be impossible to balance, that implies to me that things other than just finding scum to kill might be important.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 21 2012 15:14 GMT
#704
On November 21 2012 11:30 kushm4sta wrote:
IMO:
Put the scummiest people on the team.
The event will probably involve losing hp. We want scum to lose hp. Also it will give us more play to analyze.


this is a terrible idea, see above
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 21 2012 15:15 GMT
#706
On November 22 2012 00:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 00:11 strongandbig wrote:
On November 21 2012 11:17 sandroba wrote:
I hereby declare I want to lead you simpletons to victory. My party selection will be as following: I will choose 3 of the less known players who I read as town at the end of the day to compose the party. The reasoning is that this mechanic will greatly favor town in attempting to confirm players. This is better done for players less likely to get shot for 2 reasons: 1) They have less meta information available on them therefore harder to read. 2) Vets/Well known players are likely to get killed n1 if they are town, even more so given a successful mission, mitigating some of the advantage town might get. This serves to both preserve the good/known players and to keep the confirmed/likely town around longer.
I'd like everyone to chime in on this subject of party selection and help come to the optimum way of doing things.

tone: lol
content: I worry that this might be overestimating the importance of figuring out which players are town, and underestimating the importance of actually winning the minigames. Remember, this was the game where the hosts warned that it might be impossible to balance, that implies to me that things other than just finding scum to kill might be important.

Woah woah woah, that sounds like setup speculation. Better stop that asap


lol

don't sail the tides of time without a tiller

(also don't mix your metaphors without good ice and a shaker)
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 21 2012 19:09 GMT
#857
On November 21 2012 12:47 marvellosity wrote:
TheChronicler, take a moment, sip a glass of wine, and ponder why every single person who has read your idea has thought it terrible.

It's either because you're a genius, transcended on a plane above any of us mere mortals, or your idea is bad.


lol




(this thread is long, just wanted to say hi)
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 21 2012 19:11 GMT
#858
On November 21 2012 12:55 iamperfection wrote:
So you guys are looking for someone that has a very distinguishable town meta as opposed to his scum meta.

Hrm let me think about this for a second??????? hrm who could it possibly me...........

Wait a tick

fucking me thats who

I nominate the perfect one as the leader because he is the best choice. Not only am i town this game i also have a very distinguishable town meta from my scum meta.


Also the perfect one is known for his generosity and his fairness

i am very active and will be able to keep up with the thread very easily so i will easily take the towns input for selecting my team

So vote iamperfection 2012



ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

yeah

I can assert this too, doesn't make it true

or useful
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 21 2012 19:12 GMT
#859
On November 21 2012 12:57 Acrofales wrote:
Fine. My town read is on TheChronicler. He's either new to the game or a longtime vet fucking with us. In the former case, a noob scum would not be proposing some shitty plan like that. In the latter, he was gauging reactions and hoping to get scum to bite. Also, not a scumplay.

It's not a very useful town read, though, because I don't want to vote for him precisely because his plan was terrible.


huh

like, how random is this? I mean, i can give or take the logic, but did you really need to explain your useless town read right then?
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 21 2012 19:14 GMT
#860
On November 21 2012 13:05 iamperfection wrote:
also why do we have to have the leader select all 3 wouldn't it be best for the town to put some input on the other team members?


I feel like this was already discussed to death (with thechronicler's terrible plan, among others); why bring it up again just then?
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 21 2012 19:21 GMT
#863
On November 21 2012 13:01 Z-BosoN wrote:
That being said, I'm thinking we should actually vote sandroba. I've heard he is a capable player and a few people have mentioned that he is easier to pin down when scum. We then impose that he gives us every single line of thought on why he's chosen the party members (trying to choose town of course), and play on based from the result of the mission and from the assumptions I've made earlier on. If he's scum, we should be able to catch him on these grounds.


So I'm not convinced "voting someone to get a read on them" makes sense.

For one thing, we should probably be able to get a read on the main candidates based on their platforms etc - they're already putting themselves out there more than most players, and giving us more material (or, if they're not that's pretty significant also).

But also - I think it's gonna be pretty important to win the minigames. Until we have done a few and (hopefully) know a little more about their implications, I don't think we want to risk losing them to get better reads on people.

also this has probably already been discussed to death on the pages following this quote so if this is obsolete, my b
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 21 2012 19:24 GMT
#865
On November 21 2012 13:11 Hapahauli wrote:
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On November 21 2012 13:06 goodkarma wrote:
...
Goodkarma for President:

As your leader, I will do my best to further the policy of choosing the most obvious townies as detailed above. Along those lines, I would elect to choose both sandroba and promethelax for my party. The third is still tentative, as the game has only been going for a short time.


Why are you pre-determining who to include in your party right now? Certainly you couldn't have THAT strong of a town read on the both of them.


this is silly. he could change his reads, obvy, but if he actually wants people to vote for him it only makes sense to tell them "these are some of my town reads" so then the voters can be like "oh man his townreads are great lets vote for him" or "oh man his townreads suck that person totally didn't look town when he said that."

I mean, it's a damn sight better than just asserting "my town reads are the shit bros"
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 21 2012 19:26 GMT
#866
On November 21 2012 13:17 Hapahauli wrote:
@ iamp

Welcome! As distinguishable as you are, that's not the only thing we're looking for in a party leader. I'd prefer someone with a very strong track-record of accurate D1 town reads. You're definitely someone that can be read early and be a party candidate though.



@ Kei
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You're right, he is capable of pulling off big plays as scum, even day 1. But it's not like I'm giving him a town read already, nor do I plan to vote him until I do. I'm paranoid as fuck when it comes to him, but again, I'm much more confident in my ability to read him than I am any of the other vets, purely because I am extremely familiar with how marv thinks and acts.

Err... but you said...
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On November 21 2012 12:14 Keirathi wrote:

--Quote Pyramid Omitted--

I said I would vote marv, barring a scummy vibe from him. And, yes, I feel I have a decent grasp of when marv is acting scummy. The key is, though, that I thoroughly trust marv's ability to make town reads. In the event that he is scum, though, even a scum marv can't afford to pick other scum without some damn good reasoning that they are town, which I believe could be seen through.

Do explain good sir.


ehrmagerd he was inconsistent wooooooooooooooow

this is a big deal guys (no it's not)

not feeling the hapa happenin right now
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 21 2012 19:31 GMT
#868
On November 21 2012 13:25 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 13:22 Keirathi wrote:
On November 21 2012 13:17 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Kei
You're right, he is capable of pulling off big plays as scum, even day 1. But it's not like I'm giving him a town read already, nor do I plan to vote him until I do. I'm paranoid as fuck when it comes to him, but again, I'm much more confident in my ability to read him than I am any of the other vets, purely because I am extremely familiar with how marv thinks and acts.

Err... but you said...
On November 21 2012 12:14 Keirathi wrote:

--Quote Pyramid Omitted--

I said I would vote marv, barring a scummy vibe from him. And, yes, I feel I have a decent grasp of when marv is acting scummy. The key is, though, that I thoroughly trust marv's ability to make town reads. In the event that he is scum, though, even a scum marv can't afford to pick other scum without some damn good reasoning that they are town, which I believe could be seen through.

Do explain good sir.

What is there to explain? Both of those things you bolded say the exact same thing :o


1) "I'm not going to vote marv unless I have a town read on him."
2) "I'm going to vote someone unless he's giving me a 'scummy vibe.'"

Those two statements mean very different things. The first expresses reservation - that you're not going to vote someone UNLESS you have a town read on them. The second expresses no hesitancy - that you're vote is determined unless marv shows you otherwise.



On November 21 2012 13:30 Hapahauli wrote:
@ GK

Ah that makes sense. I'm still don't care for such early D1 town reads, but that's just my own attitude and nothing to hold you accountable for.

@ Z-Bo
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On November 21 2012 13:25 Z-BosoN wrote:
Oh-oh Kei. That's not something you just go ahead and say to sir. Hapa the interpretator. That guy is such a proser.


Ok ok I know I super-tunneled you that one game based on stupid wordings and such, but this one seems a lot more clear-cut no? Like those two statements do not mean the same thing at all.





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