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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 16 2012 17:50 GMT
#79
Haven't played Mafia with TLers before...
/in
Looking forward to it!
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 18 2012 15:41 GMT
#93
Yay we're getting some momentum towards gamestart. Can't wait!
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 18 2012 17:38 GMT
#96
I dunno, the guy in the video seems pretty scummy to me - He's obviously trying to derail everything and distract us until time runs out.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 22 2012 18:37 GMT
#121
/excited is right.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 16:11:05
October 23 2012 16:02 GMT
#137
I have mixed feelings about SK in a newbie game at all, to be honest! Oh well. I'm mostly new to TL's mafia, not a total stranger to mafia. I do really like the ambiguous but defined setup.

GLHF

Oh you want a hype video? Looks like its time to oil up.
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 25 2012 04:34 GMT
#224
On October 25 2012 09:06 debears wrote:
Welcome everyone!!!! Been waiting for this for a while!!!

A few things I'd like to know from everyone.
1) How many games have you played in?
2) How many have you observed seriously?
3)Will you be normally around for lynch?
+ Show Spoiler +

For me
1) 2 games
2) 3/4
3) Yes I will - except this friday (most likely. I play baseball for my college and we have a game friday night. don't know for sure how long it will go)

Look forward to hearing from all of you. Let's get this rolllinngggg!!!!!!

1) on TL, this is my first. I've participated in a couple games of forum mafia in the past.
2) None on TL, like 1-2 on other forums.
3) Barring unforseen circumstances, yes.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 25 2012 04:35 GMT
#226
On October 25 2012 13:23 Djodref wrote:
EBWOP: pretty sure newbie scums can slip easily under pressure

My only worry here is that newbie townies can give off false scumreads under a lot of pressure too. But pressure is good, otherwise we're just going to get nowhere.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 25 2012 04:44 GMT
#231
I feel like asking everyone a loaded question, but one that makes sense for a newbie game:

If you're not completely new to mafia (maybe you've played a few games IRL/elsewhere, or this isn't your first game on TL)

What's your favorite role to play in mafia?

I feel like I'm one of few who actively enjoys being a vanilla townie more than scum or a power-townie. It feels that much better when you're part of a victory! Maybe I'm wrong in this being an uncommon choice of favorite role, though.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 25 2012 04:47 GMT
#233
Also geez, as much as I like lynch a Lurker... isn't it a bit early? We're like 10% into day 1! If someone's still lurking when we're getting closer to lynch time, I could be convinced, but I feel like policy lynching lurkers should be something to resort to if we can't find anyone else being sketchy.

With that, I'm going to bed. I'll be around most of tomorrow!
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 25 2012 04:54 GMT
#236
Whoa what? I don't follow your line of reasoning that he's pushing for policy lynching lurkers over a scumread.



On October 25 2012 13:33 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 13:27 Rad wrote:
On October 25 2012 13:23 Djodref wrote:
I've realized that in my last newbie game. Not being confident led me to write wish-washy posts and it is not good for general town mentality.
Also I like DarthPunk style with his early heavy pressure. Pretty newbie scums can slip very easy, kush or not kush.

Plus I had some difficulties in my last mafia games to post properly when people where directly pressure me.


Why even think about artificial confidence though? Why is the concept of confidence even something to be considered beyond "if you're confident, push your case!" That's all confidence is good for. Artificial confidence does nothing.

I get the point of "try to be more confident in your reads" or something to that extent, but I don't understand what's good about having confidence in pushing for a d1 scum lynch instead of lynching a lurker. We should do whatever we think is best at that point, not necessarily 1 thing or the other.


Why are you so focused on lynching a lurker over a scumread right now imo lurker lynches are last resorts to scumreads. If a lurker has a scumread, that's a bonus. Why do you keep pressing this "artificial confidence" thing when newbie games are notorious for lurking (usually caused by fear/lack of confidence) and lack of confidence?

When he said, early on:


On October 25 2012 09:33 Rad wrote:
Lurkers policy, well, I guess lynch lurkers if there's no better option?

Can you explain what what the noob card is?


FOS: debears.
Explain more clearly where your scum tell is?
Ok now I'm actually going to bed.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 25 2012 12:35 GMT
#277
Alright, my suspicions on debears have been sated.

Retract FOS: debears

I'd like to hear more from Roco, though. Not only is he trying to push for "lynch the loudest" but he's also not saying all that much yet.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 25 2012 12:43 GMT
#278
On October 25 2012 13:55 Djodref wrote:
@sylve

What was your motivation for your question ?

Do you realize that a lot of people are playing their first game right now ?


From the 3 basic questions, seems a lot of people have played some kind of mafia or other in the past.

I figured it was an interesting way to try and get people to talk. I'm not gonna push the question, discussion seems to be moving somewhere anyway.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 25 2012 13:10 GMT
#281
@ Dandel Ion - you've basically said something anti-policy and pro-policy at the same time. What?

How exactly does opposing Lynch a Lurker policy give off a town read? For me it gives off a 0.1% scum read to oppose a reasonable, but not infallible, Day 1 strategy. And if we get to the end of the day and there are still people who have only made the minimal of posts despite people accusing them (example: Roco if we were close to lynch time), then I think that's a perfectly solid lynch candidate.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 25 2012 13:15 GMT
#282
Let me also be clear: Opposing a policy and opposing the specific instance of a policy being enacted are two entirely different things. Just because I'm not opposed to Lynch a Lurker doesn't mean I think we should invoke it automatically. But if we were closer to lynch time, and Ini and Roco still only had the posts they have... I'd vote for one of them. By not responding adequately to accusations made against you, you give the town very little to work with.

I don't really agree with debears vote on rad, but I think debears is playing an aggressive game, which is clean to me.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 25 2012 15:05 GMT
#306
On October 25 2012 22:39 Djodref wrote:
@sylver

Please answer my question regarding your question "what is your favorite role ?" I really want to understand your motivations for asking such a question.

I did? Or did you not find my answer sufficient?
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 25 2012 15:10 GMT
#307
On October 25 2012 22:42 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:15 sylverfyre wrote:
Let me also be clear: Opposing a policy and opposing the specific instance of a policy being enacted are two entirely different things. Just because I'm not opposed to Lynch a Lurker doesn't mean I think we should invoke it automatically. But if we were closer to lynch time, and Ini and Roco still only had the posts they have... I'd vote for one of them. By not responding adequately to accusations made against you, you give the town very little to work with.

I don't really agree with debears vote on rad, but I think debears is playing an aggressive game, which is clean to me.


@sylver

Would you prefer lynch Ini or Roco today ?

If I had to lynch RIGHT NOW (which I Don't) then I would currently lean more towards Roco. He's given what I consider to be questionable advice/strategy, and I consider questionable advice to be anti-town - particularly in a newbie game.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 25 2012 15:11 GMT
#309
Going to put together a list of who hasn't posted / who hasn't posted more than a few posts so far.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 25 2012 15:32 GMT
#316
Quick reminder-list of player-filters:

The Players

  1. Rad
  2. debears
  3. Alsn
  4. Mr. Cheesecake
  5. sylverfyre
  6. Clarity_nl
  7. Djodref
  8. imcasey
  9. da0ud
  10. Oatsmaster
  11. Dandel lon
  12. Inigmaticalism
  13. Roco69


Game start was at: October 25, 9:00AM Server time.
Clarity hasn't posted since gamestart.
imcasey hasn't posted since gamestart.
Oatsmaster hasn't posted since gamestart.
Inig has posted a few times.
Roco has posted a few times.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 25 2012 15:35 GMT
#318
On October 26 2012 00:24 Djodref wrote:
@sylver

I don't care about who hasn't posted right now. I want to know what info you were expecting to get by asking your question.

I was making that list because I wasn't even sure myself who/how many people hadn't spoken up.

I was trying to stir something up and you can also consider it a kind of "roleclaim-lite" (I hardly expect anyone to claim they enjoy playing scum when I ask ingame, but i think it could have been interesting to see if some people said they like a particular pro-town power-role.)
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 25 2012 15:46 GMT
#323
On October 26 2012 00:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 00:35 sylverfyre wrote:
On October 26 2012 00:24 Djodref wrote:
@sylver

I don't care about who hasn't posted right now. I want to know what info you were expecting to get by asking your question.

I was making that list because I wasn't even sure myself who/how many people hadn't spoken up.

I was trying to stir something up and you can also consider it a kind of "roleclaim-lite" (I hardly expect anyone to claim they enjoy playing scum when I ask ingame, but i think it could have been interesting to see if some people said they like a particular pro-town power-role.)

So, you admit you were rolefishing?

Yes, I am trying to get people to talk about roles without doing something as ridiculous as asking for a D1 mass claim. Also I am trying to get to know the other players in general.
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