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Happy to be here with ya all ! I am french leaving in HK and pretty bored at work currently so this game will have my full attention. This is my first MAFIA game on a chat thread, but I have played a lot with real friends in real life. So it should be pretty cool. One first guess on the voting system is that people who are already given a BYE from first round are at a disadvantage (cause they have one less chance to be out) and on top of that they are higher seeded hence at a second disadvantage in case of 0-0 tie. Pretty unfair isn't it. I guess it must have been a master plan from the Alien Invaders who put themselves all as the lowest seeded people. I would put focus on eliminating players number 10, 11 and 12 this round if possible. What do you guys think ? At least i am trying to put a lead on who is what.... Daoud. | ||
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Hence it is like us having unlimited number of votes, isn't it ? | ||
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On October 10 2012 14:18 sandroba wrote: Hey. Is this to be taken serious? Are you missing the point of the game or making a joke? Indeed, this was not to be taken seriously. However, I am not sure why receiving a BYE on first round would not make you more likely to be lynched in the end. | ||
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Sorry for being late to reply but timezone differences is not easy to manage. First regarding the very "weird" part of my post regarding "Alien Invaders". I don't know if my english is that bad and I cannot read properly but I thought the introduction post was putting a theme : On October 10 2012 11:00 kitaman27 wrote: Day 1 Ladies and gentlemen, you have all been gathered here today to participate in a game of epic proportions! Alien invaders have arrived from Moron Mountain and have challenged you to a high stakes contest. These aliens must be identified before they kidnap you one by one to serve as their entertainment slaves. Anyway this is not very important. The rest of my post was indeed made to get some action going on, because we could be talking about rules for a long time, but we need to me more focus on finding who is scum who is not. Obviously I won't be voting blindly to make seeds 10, 11, 12 move on. On October 10 2012 19:31 Djodref wrote: According to this, Hiropro and Daoud have made scummy posts so far because it looks like they want to focus the discussion of the lynch rules. Also Daoud first post came off as weird in my eyes. It looks like he's going to prepare an excuse like "I didn't understand today's lynch principle" for later. @Daoud What was your motivation for your first post ? I would vote Djodref if I could because pretty much one of his first post is directly oriented towards me so he can be saved. As Townies we have more pieces of information than scums hence we need to try things to get something back to make a decision and see whoelse is a townie. On October 10 2012 20:40 sandroba wrote: @da0ud Yes, those people are at disavantage. How is that relevant to who is scum or not? Indeed this is not relevant, I was stating a fact, scum or not should be random within these matchups. On October 11 2012 01:22 Djodref wrote: @austin The feeling I got from them is that they were willing to spend more time discussing the lynch mechanics. I’ve compared them to sandroba and ET and I felt like those last ones want to close the discussion. I don‘t think that I have said that discussing lynch mechanics is scummy. What I wanted to say is that we cannot afford to much time doing this. So the people asking for more insight on their views are scummy imo. Totally agree with Djodref on that point. I think indeed spending time on finding who is who is more important. and i put u as scum... On October 11 2012 08:16 austinmcc wrote: I'm of the opposite mind as prplhz and kush on the double D lynch. da0ud I don't think first time scum (at least here) would come in, drop a post that wasn't serious, and then jet forever. I would think he'd be concerned about being found out, do something more. His first post DOES feel kind of constructed, Hi again guys! and "Daoud" to sign out. But I think it's a post constructed by a townie. Like a scummy constructed post would be in response to a question, or would be pushing someone, or doing SOMETHING. A post that's constructed and does NOTHING doesn't point scum to me. I also think that's an important difference, and just hammering at "constructed = scum" is possibly scummy. Just like "possibly scummy" is scummy for being wishy washy... I also think that mentioning someone might have planned for scum to be the low numbers in the game is probably not from mafia? That sounds like paranoid townie talk to me. Thank you, you are the only one i think who understood really what I meant. I hope you are not using me. On October 11 2012 06:46 kushm4sta wrote: Yeah daoud vs djodref.. I'm on team djodref meaning I vote for daoud to advance. Daoud's post just seems so awkward. Admittedly a lot of this is probably because English isn't his first language. But the awkwardness goes beyond that. His alien joke makes no sense I don't care what language he thought up the joke in. His concern about the bye: He's right, that getting a bye makes it easier for you to be lynched. But he calls it a "disadvantage." Scum would be more likely to think of it this way. He is not approaching the bracket as an opportunity to catch scum, but as a trial to avoid lynch. He has the natural fear of a scum. He is my #1 scum read right now and I definitely want him to go through. I totally don't agree with you. YES this is a disadvantage. You have more chance to get lynched. You want my to do the maths ? Even people with a BYE on first round can vote for other matchups and read people on the first round. Being present at the first round from scums is too me on more opportunity to escape the lynch rather that getting more read on him. What if he says no word at all during the all round. People will have to put votes on him on each of them while him giving no piece of information on what he could be, hence more probability to survive the day. 100% a disadvantage. Hence this post puts you on top of my list of scums. Sorry I totally missed the deadline for first round of votes, I really wanted to but have been more busy that I thought. Hence this long post today. | ||
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On October 11 2012 08:21 austinmcc wrote: I also do not want to get lynched, and I am town. I view starting one step closer to lynch as a "disadvantage." Yes, it's kind of weird phrasing, but townies don't want to get lynched either. I don't read that as really pointing one way or the other, whereas I read his comment about wanting to lynch seeds 10, 11, and 12 because they might have rigged the bracket that we have been told by mods was random as a townie thing. It shows...unhealthy paranoia about things that cannot be true? Like +1 | ||
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On October 11 2012 10:36 sandroba wrote: Yo. I want da0ud to go to the next round. I have a hunch and those have been pretty good historically. Shame i didn't go through and cannot get lynched, you would have seen how good your hunch was.... May I have a recap of your historical hunch in order to maker an empirical rule on your reads ? Definitely you will get my vote this round at least x1. | ||
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On October 11 2012 13:00 Hopeless1der wrote: Is this going to change da0ud? Will you usually be here at the deadline or not? Going to bed now. I'll make sure I make a first vote before going to bed next time, even though this is like 10 hours before deadline. And if anything changes I'll amend it. Your concern about me being able to vote for lynching mafia (aka Aliens  ) makes me have a good feelings about your townie roots. | ||
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On October 11 2012 13:14 kushm4sta wrote: @daoud so lol. Clarify how he can be using you? Well, as he was the only one really supporting me, he could easily get my trust and getting me to follow his lead on who to vote against, etc. If he was mafia, then that would be another bullet for the mafia team (ie : getting a townie to follow their voting pattern). Maybe what i say doesn't make sense, but : * Let say we are 9 townies, 3 mafia. * One of the mafia supports the "weird" guy (who is the only one who reads the theme of the game :D) * Let's assume this guy is now 40% following the conviction of the manipulator. * Town is now made of 3.4 mafia vs 8.6 townies, and the plague is spreading. But I am not that dumb (or am I ?), I'll make decisions by myself. | ||
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I will be super not busy for the next 4hrs. Please ALL wake up !! On October 11 2012 13:14 kushm4sta wrote: so lol. Clarify how he can be using you? kush ? shall I end up my post with "so lol" as well, so i can freely make fun of people. | ||
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I actually already put a first draft of vote in the outside thread. Only voting for Djodref x1 Currently no real read or gut feeling on first two matches (Thrawn vs Hope) nor (Hiro vs ON). So I won't put a vote in yet. Regarding your matchup against sandroba, I don't mind either of you to move on, so i will save my vote for the time being. In the last matchup i will vote Djodref for lighting up the accusation against me in the first round. Now that i can vote against him i do it. This can all change depending on how things go. | ||
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On October 11 2012 17:35 thrawn2112 wrote: "Hunches" aren't good enough explanations for me. And this is the 2nd case where sandroba has a read but he's not willing to go the distance to push his votes. He says prplhz is his top scum read, never votes for him or mentions him again. He wants da0ud to go through based on a hunch, and he puts a lot of weight behind the validity of his hunches. Yet he doesn't put enough votes in to push da0ud through. So that's twice where his stated intentions don't match up with his actions. So you wanted me to go through ? Not nice  But I see your point against Sandroba.I just cannot make up my mind on who is the scummiest between him and kush. | ||
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On October 11 2012 17:52 thrawn2112 wrote: No I wanted djodref to go through that's why I voted for him lol. What I was talking about is that sandroba's votes weren't lining up with his words. He put no effort into pushing his top scumread (prplhz) and he didn't have the balls to put enough votes on you to push you through, despite having a hunch after saying that his hunches are usually correct. I know don't worry. Let me find some time to elaborate on Sand and Kush. | ||
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On October 10 2012 20:40 sandroba wrote: @prpl You are my best scum read so far, how do you feel about that <3 @mementoss Don't be stupid. Town# > Mafia# by default. That's the dumbest shit I've read so far and let me tell you there is plenty dumb shit about. First statement coming from nowhere and second one just insulting Mementoss freely. Sure Town>Mafia, but someone who would worry about the number of Mafia people sounds townie to me. Getting accused of stupid on this topic would show me a mafia bullying a townie. On October 10 2012 20:46 sandroba wrote: You don't have to vote anyone right now. You have however many votes you want (max 10). You misrepresented ET impossible ratio quote so somehow he knew the mafia number which we don't know yet so you can vote ET. Yes, that's dumb. insulting On October 10 2012 21:07 sandroba wrote: I'm mad when I can't distiguish between someone being crazy or trying to make a fake contribution. You can vote for whoever you like as long as your explanation doesn't stink. And as long as the person can even get votes, which ET can't even get this round. Better luck reading the game and the thread next time. insulting On October 11 2012 10:31 sandroba wrote: Djoref dude looks town to me. Da0ud could go either way, leaning scum atm. I'm actually surprised he was winning, anyone care to explain it to me? austin? How could Djodref look town ? He doesn't look 100% mafia but he does at least look like 70% of it. On October 11 2012 10:36 sandroba wrote: Yo. I want da0ud to go to the next round. I have a hunch and those have been pretty good historically. Coming from nowhere trying to protect Djodref. On October 11 2012 11:22 sandroba wrote: ON why the votes on djoref? Another post to back up someone. Not a post like "why don't you vote against Da0ud he looks suspicious/ you should follow my "HuncH" ". Instead the post should be read why do you vote against my matey Djodref. | ||
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On October 11 2012 00:28 kushm4sta wrote: I'm putting my votes down now in the voting thread and yes I'm going to vote on every matchup. I prioritize voting bad people over good people just because I think we are more likely to catch a bad scum than a good scum today, also lynching a good town is way worse than lynching bad town. I am also prioritizing voting for afks instead of actives. hopeless1der x1 originalname x1 da0ud x1 This is total scum talk, trying to elaborate and why he would vote for killing townies and that it would be not suspiscious when after we realise he lynched a townie. He will say : I was only doing vote against my will : ok he was town but he was not participating, so not my fault. Oh yes he was town but he was a BAD player. @ Kush : Please elaborate what a BAD town is ? On October 11 2012 06:46 kushm4sta wrote: Yeah daoud vs djodref.. I'm on team djodref meaning I vote for daoud to advance. Daoud's post just seems so awkward. Admittedly a lot of this is probably because English isn't his first language. But the awkwardness goes beyond that. His alien joke makes no sense I don't care what language he thought up the joke in. His concern about the bye: He's right, that getting a bye makes it easier for you to be lynched. But he calls it a "disadvantage." Scum would be more likely to think of it this way. He is not approaching the bracket as an opportunity to catch scum, but as a trial to avoid lynch. He has the natural fear of a scum. He is my #1 scum read right now and I definitely want him to go through. Another person backing up another one (ie: Djodref once more), so a vote to protect his accomplice. And I have already explained WHY the rest of his post is totally scummy post. Trying to pretend it is not a disadvantage for a townie to be put directly in second round. On October 11 2012 13:14 kushm4sta wrote: @daoud K I had no idea there was alien theme...I almost never read flavor text! sorry mods. That does excuse your terrible alien joke though. Everyone understood what you meant. If you are scum it is clearly a disadvantage to have a bye. If you are town it's not a disadvantage because your aim isn't to survive, it's to hunt scum. Please explain me how you do hunt scum if you don't survive ? The rest of his posts are trying to be nicer with me, because he realises I am not as dumb and bad in english as he would have expected/hoped. My alien joke.... yes i read the intro. He agrees on how I could have been made a mini-scum without arguing against it. Maybe you don't want me to form an alliance with another townie so soon in the game ? | ||
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On October 11 2012 19:02 thrawn2112 wrote: I'm confused, what is this mini-scum stuff you two are talking about and what do you mean by "form an alliance with another townie so soon in the game?" @ Thrawn : here is the part i was talking about the mini-scum : On October 11 2012 14:38 da0ud wrote: Well, as he was the only one really supporting me, he could easily get my trust and getting me to follow his lead on who to vote against, etc. If he was mafia, then that would be another bullet for the mafia team (ie : getting a townie to follow their voting pattern). Maybe what i say doesn't make sense, but : * Let say we are 9 townies, 3 mafia. * One of the mafia supports the "weird" guy (who is the only one who reads the theme of the game :D) * Let's assume this guy is now 40% following the conviction of the manipulator. * Town is now made of 3.4 mafia vs 8.6 townies, and the plague is spreading. But I am not that dumb (or am I ?), I'll make decisions by myself. | ||
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On October 12 2012 10:56 Djodref wrote: Hello guys ! I finally got away from the meeting ^^ I just have caught up with the thread on my phone. First I would like to say that the predictions were a (failed) attempt to make my comments look like a starcraft MU preview. Thank you Kush for understanding me and believing in me  Just a quick post about the people who are going to advance:
No Starcraft like prediction this time Djo ?  Agree with you on Sand vs Kush. Kush posts much more and his creating noise in order to get some clues on who could be scum or not. Sorry havent been posting much today but i was swamped at work. Should be much quieter for the rest of the day. | ||
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It bothers me as well that ON doesnt seem to care very much and has posted only a few messages. Most of them being useless (like his phone being dead for 24hrs, the panic votes). Since then nothing has been posted and I agree that it seems odd for someone from town not to participate in the lynching process as it is its only real way of finding scum. I would expect even more a townie to participate if he is still on for lynching. It makes sense for mafia not to worry about advancing if his accomplices do manage to save him at any future round. H1 posts seems pretty coherent i am maybe too newbie to have a good read out of it. I haven't played no game with any of you in the past, and i actually don't really want to because i want to make myself an opinion out of your posts and not ur behaviour in other games. | ||
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