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The set-up looks very interesting, especially trying to post completely in role. I would play, but the level of convoluted posting needed while on a mobile phone will leave me out.
I wouldn't mind observing or continuing a crash course in town play and mafia play. I've played one or two games online, and thousands offline. (Rough estimate)
Mayhe Newbie Mafia XXII would work better for me, unless people wouldn't mind a player not posting screens of text each day.
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+ Show Spoiler [JieXian] +On July 12 2012 16:36 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 15:48 Speedbump wrote: The set-up looks very interesting, especially trying to post completely in role. I would play, but the level of convoluted posting needed while on a mobile phone will leave me out.
I wouldn't mind observing or continuing a crash course in town play and mafia play. I've played one or two games online, and thousands offline. (Rough estimate)
Mayhe Newbie Mafia XXII would work better for me, unless people wouldn't mind a player not posting screens of text each day. Lol what kind of mafia have you been playing? Posting in role? Usually in-person mafia, where we get assigned a role and a character. Sometimes it's fucking silly, other times amazing. It gets much better with drinking on top.
+ Show Spoiler [Probulous] +On July 12 2012 15:55 Probulous wrote: Dear Mr Speedbump
Firstly congrats on being from New Zealand, you can say hi to my cousins for me. Thank you. I would do so, but I've already joined the mass invasion expedition of Australia. XD
Secondly this is a standard setup with nothing really convoluted. The only difference is the flavour I have given the roles. You do not have to post in character. That would make little sense. Everyone playing this game will be, by definition, a newbie. As for activity, you don't have to post walls of text. In fact the best players here don't tend to do that. Rather they read and read and read and read and then post something new and insightful. Ah, that makes sense. Hopefully I can learn from this game. Either way, my playstyle is concise, possibly bordering on 1-2 sentence posts if tired. Hopefully it won't be held against me.
In addition there is the most awesome Blazinghand and his stupendousness VE to help you out if you feel the need. Finally the fact that you are hesitant to sign up because you are unsure of whether you can keep up, is a very good sign. Be wary, be skeptical but most of all have fun. They sound like both scholars and fine gentlemen, if they want to help noobs like me. If I ever play against them, I might be a bit more reticient in saying so. ^^;
Hopefully the transition from in person to text-based isn't too bad.
I hope you sign up
Yours sincerely Probulous I think I am too late. TT Also, after a few day's absence, I have decided to be a replacement if it is allowed. I shall endeavour in keeping up with the thread. Hopefully I don't have to type anywhere near this much again on my phone. ><
/replacement
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A few questions before I decide to be a replacement: 1: Would this game count as game 0 or game 1 for me, seeing as I'm replacing mid-game.
2: Same as 1, but if I get NK/vig'd tonight?
Everyone: If the other replacement responds before I get back from an interview, pick him/her.
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Hello everyone!
I'm going to re-read everything tonight, and hopefully be caught up a few hours before the end of night.
Most of my posts are going to be on a phone, as I have sporadic access to a proper computer. This means that Post-By-Post and multi-quote posts will require me to find a computer to type them on. (I would need a few hours is asked for one.)
My timezone is the same as Probulous, but I will have a fair bit of trouble being awake 8-12 hours before end of voting.
This is, of course, assuming there are no dick moves of me dying N2. That would suck.
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EBWODP: This is, of course, assuming there are no dick moves resulting in me dying N2.
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I'm letting you all know that I'm still here. I only got my role PM last night, and I decided it would be better for me not to derail any discussion with me drinking and typing on my phone. After all, we all know what happened to Zephirdd
I've been trying to write about why I feel that iamperfection is my scummiest read for the last hour, but my phone died in the middle of writing that post I just have a feeling in my gut that with how iamperfection has played throughout this game that he's really wishy washy in his analysis, with mostly one-two line posts.
Reading through his filter, the only times he's lengthily discussed anything in this game is when he's been talking about how his personal mafia play style, attacking Obvious.660 of being non-committal when he was doing the same, talking about lurkers, and talking about the confirmed nature of JingleHell (all the while playing the 'What would I do as scum/mafia' card.)
I shall lay a FoS iamperfection for now, because I am struggling a little to jump into this game basically at the start of D3. Once I understand the situatuion from each day a little bit better, then I can post stronger analysis (with the potential of Post-by-Post analysis if it is demanded.) I also think that laying a vote on iamperfection would be a little rash of me because of this situation.
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EBWODP: In addition to my post, I would like to state that I have not read the spoilers contained within calgar's post. Whenever I reply on my phone, clicking spoilers refreshes my page and removes what I could be posting.
I should have had my phone post on another tab. ^^;
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EBWOTP: I shall read calgar's post again, and if it agrees with my suspicions of iamperfection, I will vote and explain why.
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@Hapahauli: While I'm still suspicious of iamperfection, the cases posted against Tube are very compelling. Tube has spent no time defending himself and sounds like a mafia dying as quiet as possible.
@Hopeless1der: Based on level of suspiciousness each player has, the most probable mafia is tube, Fulla being the secondmost.
Tube is still posting in a manner that makes it very hard to believe that he could be anything other than mafia. Fulla has spent even less time posting towards helping town, mainly avoiding conversation by lurking and posting one-liners. The only time Fulla has tried to help town is through relentless railing of Hopeless1der, who I have a very good town read on.
@YourHarry: I also find the interactions between drwiggl3s and tube to be rather weird. I do not see a town tube to be so willing in his complacency in actively hunting mafia. With these two posts tube made in Day 1, with the post analysis, the second post makes me adamant that tube is mafia.
On July 17 2012 06:05 tube wrote: wait what? how is it mathematically sound to just lynch someone because you think their "active lurking" is an attitude that hurts town (explain how i am doing this) there are 12 people and you want to use the first lynch to get rid of me for sure on a petty basis
honestly mafia is laughing at you
On July 17 2012 06:05 tube wrote: ebwop after my 4th line: even if im town As such, ##Vote tube.
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EBWODP: I will be analysing Fulla's posting further. I can do a Post-by-Post analysis of Fulla within 2-3 hours of this post, but I am limited to PbP on my phone.
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Back in my day, at least you young punk mods would play Bridge with us before forgetting us. *shakes fist*
@Fulla: I woke up late for an interview this morning. I can give my analysis part-way in the night.
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I lost internet for roughly two days, only got it back today. T_T
First of all, Vote No Lynch. I honestly had massive suspicions of Fulla, but I lost internet access half-way through making a case on him. I agree that the safest course of action that town has is to go with a No Lynch. It means that town can play much more cautiously and still win.
My role is Senior.
At the risk of OMGUS, I think that this post from calgar is over-assumptive.
On July 26 2012 03:54 calgar wrote: My play has definitely been reckless. I’ve been aggressive and posted reads and made mistakes. That’s been the same all game long. I was grasping at straws when I tried to read in hopeless, kind of like with my attempted meta-analysis of iamperfection. Here’s my new case.
I’ve rethought what I think about hopeless and him calling out that there was no doctor. Jingle knew there might not be a doctor but he tried to stay alive by ‘requesting’ it nevertheless. Hopeless points out that there probably isn’t one. Jingle is mad because hopeless has just killed whatever small chance jingle had of living to the next day. I think mafia wouldn’t have wanted jingle to be warned so explicitly. Maybe he still had some hope left and might not have done anything productive at night. I’ll stop here because it descends into even more WIFOM but I think hopeless is town because of this.
Now, town should 100% no lynch. Whoever mafia hits, even Harry who we have strong feelings about, the field will be narrower and there is one less person to hide behind. Town will have a good chance at getting mafia lynched and that will bring it to 3-1, still very winnable. Mafia wants to lynch today and for people to get overzealous and go for their reads prematurely. Town needs to play logically here. Logic says no lynch is the best call statistically.
My case now is against our replacement. Whatever you think about me, I think there is a better case for him. I think the burden is on the replacer to clear their name with aggressive posting and reads. I think if he were town he would have tried much harder to do so. Wouldn’t you if you had replaced in? This isn’t someone like tube who signed up and then gave up. He signed up as a replacement and then accepted it. I think he should care more considering he joined recently. He should have been posting much more, except for the fact that he hasn’t needed to since lurking would have almost won with people lynching on MYLO. He left us dangling with a promise to return. iamperfection is on the right track for calling him out.
It’s interesting that mafia didn’t kill harry OR Speedbump-- not shooting Harry was a gamble, since he’s confirmed townie, to try and get a mislynch. Speedbump, though, as a replacement, traditionally gets the ‘benefit of the doubt’ and wouldn’t be lynched at LYLO. Mafia has definitely thought of this! viscera would have thought of it, and they are probably aware of it from guides also. Replacement townies are a huge liability for the mafia-- speedbump being alive should be very suspicious + everything else added on. Bolded the logical flaw I see in your post. It's much easier to make assumptions about how replacements play, instead of actually playing the game. To answer your flawed analysis there; unless the player pre-replacement plays exceptionally poorly, I don't think that the replacement has any onus of burden to defend himself overzealously, like you're implying. In fact, overzealous play causes more problems for town, with potential mislynches.
But then, when one is reckless and grasping at straws the whole game, it would be easier to make more brash and reckless assumptions to mislynch and win. Have you got anything substantial to go on, or is this all purely WIFOM?
FoS calgar
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On July 26 2012 10:55 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 09:55 Speedbump wrote: Bolded the logical flaw I see in your post. It's much easier to make assumptions about how replacements play, instead of actually playing the game. To answer your flawed analysis there; unless the player pre-replacement plays exceptionally poorly, I don't think that the replacement has any onus of burden to defend himself overzealously, like you're implying. In fact, overzealous play causes more problems for town, with potential mislynches.
But then, when one is reckless and grasping at straws the whole game, it would be easier to make more brash and reckless assumptions to mislynch and win. Have you got anything substantial to go on, or is this all purely WIFOM?
FoS calgar Calgar's suspicions are pretty reasonable, and its inexcusable for a player to not post for 48 hours when the town's at MYLO. You claim your internet cut out, but you were pretty quick to defend yourself when people started calling you out. You also spend more time decrying Calgar's "flawed analysis" than actually analyzing his case. Hell, I haven't seen you analyze well... anything since you joined.
On July 26 2012 11:20 calgar wrote:Nice of you to rejoin the thread. How convenient that your internet comes up in time to address the case against you. So, no fulla case then huh. You said it would come in 2-3 hours. Then the next day you say it’s not there but still coming that night. Then you come back after 2 days. You could have posted from your phone. So that makes no case still. You’re on your phone, you woke up late, your internet went down while making your case. That’s convenient. NK happens to be on the guy you promised your case on, also convenient. Convenient that you can still be unaccountable. Sounds like you’ve got lots of excuses but haven’t managed to push any original analysis. You sheep FOS onto iamperfection, sheep vote onto tube, and sheep FOS onto me. Baaah. Where are your thoughts? Where are your cases? How have you contributed to town at all, even once? The mafia targeting is partially WIFOM. The simplest shot would still have been to shoot YourHarry or you. Why didn’t they take the simplest? Bolded the flaw? Lol you bolded the entire thing. I’m suspicious of you because you are acting suspicious. Where is the ‘flaw’ in that reasoning? Maybe you should bold this entire response too. Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 09:55 Speedbump wrote: To answer your flawed analysis there; unless the player pre-replacement plays exceptionally poorly, I don't think that the replacement has any onus of burden to defend himself overzealously, like you're implying. In fact, overzealous play causes more problems for town, with potential mislynches. Hmm. I guess I could just stop posting and try to help the town like you have. No onus? Did you conveniently forget the part where you disappeared for 48 hours? That means you do in fact have a burden, especially this late in the game. Honestly, what is town supposed to expect when you stop playing for that long? Why did you agree to replace if you were going to post that little? I have one explanation. Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 09:55 Speedbump wrote: But then, when one is reckless and grasping at straws the whole game, it would be easier to make more brash and reckless assumptions to mislynch and win. Have you got anything substantial to go on, or is this all purely WIFOM? FoS calgar Have you got any contributions to make to town or are you going to purely sheep the rest of the game?
@Hapahauli and calgar: So what you're claiming is that I would somehow lie about internet connections being disconnected, and then conspicuously re-appear when I defend myself? Would you say the same thing if I re-appeared and I wasn't in the situation of defending myself? I find it odd that people tend to misconstrue things that happen with unfortunate timings with less trepidation than is due.
Matter of fact is, my net cut out for two days. This was both my mobile internet and the wifi at the backpackers I was staying at during the time. There was literally nothing I can do about that. If you want to overlook hunting for mafia to rail at me for not having an internet connection at the time, then town will lose.
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EBWODP: Responding to calgar's post. Could take quite a while.
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Counter-post to calgar:
On July 26 2012 11:20 calgar wrote: Nice of you to rejoin the thread. How convenient that your internet comes up in time to address the case against you. How convienient of you to whine and make me look bad over things outside my control. Quite an original tactic, I know.
On July 26 2012 11:20 calgar wrote:So, no fulla case then huh. You said it would come in 2-3 hours. Then the next day you say it’s not there but still coming that night. I had a post that took me 2 hours to write on my phone, which got deleted when the browser crashed. I would love it if I were in a position not to rely on a phone for posting, and not have to defend myself from your scum bias at MYLO.
On July 26 2012 11:20 calgar wrote:Then you come back after 2 days. You could have posted from your phone. No internet plan for my phone, no working wifi. Sucks not having a job to pay for the internet for it too.
On July 26 2012 11:20 calgar wrote:So that makes no case still. You’re on your phone, you woke up late, your internet went down while making your case. That’s convenient. NK happens to be on the guy you promised your case on, also convenient. Convenient that you can still be unaccountable. Sounds like you’ve got lots of excuses but haven’t managed to push any original analysis. You sheep FOS onto iamperfection, sheep vote onto tube, and sheep FOS onto me. Baaah. Where are your thoughts? Where are your cases? How have you contributed to town at all, even once? Is this like your constant bandwagonning, whimsical voting and incessant tunneling the entire game?
Day 1, you spend all your time flip-flopping your vote between iamperfection who you had constantly railed and backflipped to the whole day and YourHarry. (who you only decided to vote for after Hapahauli made his case) This was done in a manner of a person who doesn't care which person is lynched, which is heavily anti-town.
Day 2, more time spent flip-flopping between YourHarry and imperfection. This time, you spend a slight amount of time on Fulla's inactivity, while still heavily railing YourHarry and iamperfection. Afterwards, you continue your tunneling of iamperfection. You tthen decided to sheep drwiggl3s, while still tunneling YourHarry, only voting for drwiggl3s once he had 4 votes on him.
Day 3, yet more time spent tunneling iamperfection, only deciding to follow iamperfection in voting tube, after Hapahauli and Hopeless1der had already weighed in their suspicions of tube. This sudden flip-flop on your aggression towards iamperfection looks very suspicious, considering a mislynch in that scenario leads to MYLO the next day.
Or is this all a matter of convenience that you choose to overlook in pushing a more convenient 'case' against me? You've heavily sheeped iamperfection and YourHarry from the beginning, only changing your mind when someone else does makes an analysis that you conveniently borrow.
On July 26 2012 11:20 calgar wrote:The mafia targeting is partially WIFOM. The simplest shot would still have been to shoot YourHarry or you. Why didn’t they take the simplest? As you have the mindset, you'd have to tell me. I wouldn't know..
On July 26 2012 11:20 calgar wrote:Bolded the flaw? Lol you bolded the entire thing. I’m suspicious of you because you are acting suspicious. Where is the ‘flaw’ in that reasoning? Maybe you should bold this entire response too. I find it very suspicious that you mention mafia coaching, and it is weird you conveniently overlooked this part when quoting my response to you. I guess you slipped when trying to make a case against me.
On July 26 2012 11:20 calgar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 09:55 Speedbump wrote: To answer your flawed analysis there; unless the player pre-replacement plays exceptionally poorly, I don't think that the replacement has any onus of burden to defend himself overzealously, like you're implying. In fact, overzealous play causes more problems for town, with potential mislynches. Hmm. I guess I could just stop posting and try to help the town like you have. No onus? Did you conveniently forget the part where you disappeared for 48 hours? That means you do in fact have a burden, especially this late in the game. Honestly, what is town supposed to expect when you stop playing for that long? Why did you agree to replace if you were going to post that little? I have one explanation. Hmm. I guess I could just do what you've done the whole game, where you sheep and bandwagon your way to a mafia victory. I'm sure you conveniently just dropped in the disappeared for 48 hours to take any possible heat off of you, instead of acting on you explanations.
If I had the clairvoyance that you're pompously demanding I need, I wouldn't have agreed to sign up. The only 'burden' I have is responding to your false and biased fallacies, and the only onus I have is to help town in whichever way I can do so.
Of course, you can also claim you have an explanation as to why I have to answer to your presumptuousness. Which, ironically, you don't bother posting.
On July 26 2012 11:20 calgar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 09:55 Speedbump wrote: But then, when one is reckless and grasping at straws the whole game, it would be easier to make more brash and reckless assumptions to mislynch and win. Have you got anything substantial to go on, or is this all purely WIFOM? FoS calgar Have you got any contributions to make to town or are you going to purely sheep the rest of the game? Are you going to try to pawn off the sheeping tag to me because you don't want people to know you've done it all game?
[spoiler=@Hapahauli]On July 26 2012 12:57 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 11:57 Speedbump wrote:On July 26 2012 10:55 Hapahauli wrote:On July 26 2012 09:55 Speedbump wrote: Bolded the logical flaw I see in your post. It's much easier to make assumptions about how replacements play, instead of actually playing the game. To answer your flawed analysis there; unless the player pre-replacement plays exceptionally poorly, I don't think that the replacement has any onus of burden to defend himself overzealously, like you're implying. In fact, overzealous play causes more problems for town, with potential mislynches.
But then, when one is reckless and grasping at straws the whole game, it would be easier to make more brash and reckless assumptions to mislynch and win. Have you got anything substantial to go on, or is this all purely WIFOM?
FoS calgar Calgar's suspicions are pretty reasonable, and its inexcusable for a player to not post for 48 hours when the town's at MYLO. You claim your internet cut out, but you were pretty quick to defend yourself when people started calling you out. You also spend more time decrying Calgar's "flawed analysis" than actually analyzing his case. Hell, I haven't seen you analyze well... anything since you joined. On July 26 2012 11:20 calgar wrote:Nice of you to rejoin the thread. How convenient that your internet comes up in time to address the case against you. So, no fulla case then huh. You said it would come in 2-3 hours. Then the next day you say it’s not there but still coming that night. Then you come back after 2 days. You could have posted from your phone. So that makes no case still. You’re on your phone, you woke up late, your internet went down while making your case. That’s convenient. NK happens to be on the guy you promised your case on, also convenient. Convenient that you can still be unaccountable. Sounds like you’ve got lots of excuses but haven’t managed to push any original analysis. You sheep FOS onto iamperfection, sheep vote onto tube, and sheep FOS onto me. Baaah. Where are your thoughts? Where are your cases? How have you contributed to town at all, even once? The mafia targeting is partially WIFOM. The simplest shot would still have been to shoot YourHarry or you. Why didn’t they take the simplest? Bolded the flaw? Lol you bolded the entire thing. I’m suspicious of you because you are acting suspicious. Where is the ‘flaw’ in that reasoning? Maybe you should bold this entire response too. On July 26 2012 09:55 Speedbump wrote: To answer your flawed analysis there; unless the player pre-replacement plays exceptionally poorly, I don't think that the replacement has any onus of burden to defend himself overzealously, like you're implying. In fact, overzealous play causes more problems for town, with potential mislynches. Hmm. I guess I could just stop posting and try to help the town like you have. No onus? Did you conveniently forget the part where you disappeared for 48 hours? That means you do in fact have a burden, especially this late in the game. Honestly, what is town supposed to expect when you stop playing for that long? Why did you agree to replace if you were going to post that little? I have one explanation. On July 26 2012 09:55 Speedbump wrote: But then, when one is reckless and grasping at straws the whole game, it would be easier to make more brash and reckless assumptions to mislynch and win. Have you got anything substantial to go on, or is this all purely WIFOM? FoS calgar Have you got any contributions to make to town or are you going to purely sheep the rest of the game? @Hapahauli and calgar: So what you're claiming is that I would somehow lie about internet connections being disconnected, and then conspicuously re-appear when I defend myself? Would you say the same thing if I re-appeared and I wasn't in the situation of defending myself? I find it odd that people tend to misconstrue things that happen with unfortunate timings with less trepidation than is due. Matter of fact is, my net cut out for two days. This was both my mobile internet and the wifi at the backpackers I was staying at during the time. There was literally nothing I can do about that. If you want to overlook hunting for mafia to rail at me for not having an internet connection at the time, then town will lose. Even if we ignore your 48 hour break, you still haven't done anything resembling analysis. Furthermore, this is the second time you're bandwagonning on the suspicion du jour - first Tube and now Calgar. The fact that tube didn't make any defence of himself made it very hard to know whether or not we would be able to read him as anything other than mafia. I made my vote on him as a "please explain" vote, but there was no explanation. My suspicions of tube were that he was an overwhelmed mafia who was trying to save his scum buddies, until he flipped.
My analysis of calgar is not "bandwagonning on the suspicion du jour". I believe that calgar is very suspicious, constantly obfuscating any progress in the game through constant tunneling and sheeping. His voting pattern is based off of bandwagonning and sheeping, and I would be surprised if he flipped town. I believe that his 'case' against me is nothing more than a desire to take pressure away from himself after his scummy-looking voting. He's done it 3 days in a row, and if he tries to sheep me, then he would be doing it 4 days in a row.
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EBWODP: Formatting fail. I will repost this if the formatting looks too messy.
Also, please note that my timezone is GMT+10. Do not expect me to be online between 11pm-7am AEST (9am-5pm EST), as I have phone calls and interviews throughout playing this game. I will try to post before I go to sleep, which will be around 10pm AEST (8am EST), but I will more likely respond at 7:30am AEST (5:30pm EST)
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First of all, ##Vote calgar.
You haven't bothered to respond in a proper manner to my post. Attempts to dismiss it as OMGUS are lazy and slack, and promote your scummy agenda.
Also, your hintings of a blue role, without attempting to state/hint at what it is really dodgy as well. Anyone can hint at potential blue roles at LYLO and attempt to mislynch.
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On July 29 2012 08:57 calgar wrote: speedbump's silence is telling. Why isn't town talking anymore? Seems like it gave up a long time ago. No talking, no analysis, no reads. Maybe because you're all posting when I'm asleep? Being on the other side of the world isn't a scumtell, in spite of your repeated attempts to take all the pressure away from your scummy play all game.
In fact, using your shitty logic there against you, why don't you post constantly at 3am? It must be because you're scum.
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EBWODP: More analysis on Day 5 calgar.
+ Show Spoiler [calgar's Mafia Team Flailings] +On July 29 2012 04:57 calgar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 04:52 iamperfection wrote: @calgar
just to be clear
Who do you think the second scum member is? Is it still hopeless in your eyes? Well, I don't really know, but if I had to guess I'd say speedbump + hapa. OMGUS analysis at it's best. You're so unsure of who the mafia is, that you merely point fingers at people who had voted for you. If you were sure, you'd actually put gumption into making your analysis anything other than the scumfest it has been. At LYLO, all you seem to do is fingerpoint in the attempt to mislead town into a mislynch. + Show Spoiler [calgar's Evidenceless Vote Again…] +On July 28 2012 11:12 calgar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2012 10:20 Hopeless1der wrote:On July 09 2012 07:40 Probulous wrote: Activity: You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled. Newbie games tend to have people who decide not to participate. I will not tolerate this, if you don't think you can play, then don't sign up. To confirm you have bothered to read my wonderful OP. I will only accept you into this game if you write "I will be active" in your sign up post.
Assuming there is leniency due to being a noobie game and all, we're in LYLO today. Claim any roles as soon as possible with any reads you might have based on your claim (or regular reads for that matter). I honestly don't think there is a blue left because there should have been a last minute night post getting everything onto the table just before dieing. I still think calgar is scum. ##Vote Calgar Hopeless - 2/5 left are mafia. I am town. Does Harry's read as town not mean anything to you? What about jingle's read? If you really believe I'm the best vote then I can't do anything. I can't blame you for voting as you do. You sheeped jingle before in support of my innocence. Despite my inconsistent play, I'd like to encourage you to vote with me one more time. Humor me - what if I were town? Certainly mafia would leave me alive, right? I'm an automatic mislynch because of all the suspicion on me. Are you really sure there are no blues left? I think there's one more. Look at past games - I doubt there have ever been only two. This is all WIFOM, but if no one had a strong read on me, why would I go posting my bullshit cases on several people? I think this shows the motive of desperate townie more than mafia. I'm going to ##Vote speedbump. I would encourage you to join me for the sake of town. So much WIFOM in that post that you're giving everyone alcohol poisoning. Instead of posting your analysis there, you post a myriad of incompetent 'what-if's' with no confidence or actual gravity behind it, and then claim that as proper impetus to scumvote me. More of your amazing and stellar 'analysis' right there. If I get bored of trying to find any proper analysis of yours towards me, then I will "humour" your purported 'townness'. + Show Spoiler [calgar's Scummy Re-direct Attempt] +On July 29 2012 08:35 calgar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 06:48 Hapahauli wrote:Calgar, I'm currently reading through your defense and will post a response later tonight. But I HAD to comment on this right away: On July 29 2012 04:57 calgar wrote:On July 29 2012 04:52 iamperfection wrote: @calgar
just to be clear
Who do you think the second scum member is? Is it still hopeless in your eyes? Well, I don't really know, but if I had to guess I'd say speedbump + hapa. Congratulations Calgar, you now have standing suspicions against every player in this game. But seriously... you're saying you bandwagonned on all of my suspicions and cases since Day 1 because you thought I was mafia?!?! One case at a time, no reason to do otherwise. Everyone who thought I was town was shot. Is that not a little bit weird? Is mafia not trying to aim a mislynch in a certain direction? Seems like it would be really easy to do so. Where is speedbump? He's a better lynch. So you avoid answering the question Hapahauli asked you, which has massive gravitas in the case against you, to further your OMGUS posting at me? This is because the question would reveal you as the scum you truly are if you had the decency to answer it. Once again, you've decided to ignore direct and critical evidence in the case against you. Flailing in an attempt to make everyone go on a tangent is scumplay at it's worst. Why am I a better lynch for you? Would that mean you win the game as mafia? + Show Spoiler [calgar Still ignoring Hapahauli'…] +On July 29 2012 10:31 calgar wrote: You've posted twice in 60 hours - sleep has nothing to do with this. What does a different timezone have to do with that kind of inactivity? Mafia is literally lurking to victory here. A real townie would be making reads and trying to be productive. Speedbump's filter (or absence in this case) should speak for itself.
I think a lot of the case for poor voting can be made for hopeless and iamperfection. Come on guys, switch your votes! They're hoping you'll go along with the case. Try and rethink it objectively based on the facts. If you want to be technical, 3 times in 48 hours, and 8 times if you look 24 hours further back. Being scummy, you falsely assume that I don't bother to make a case when I am either asleep or genuinely occupied throughout the day to be "active lurking". If I posted in a thread stating that I would be too busy to analyse anything in the day, you'd still use your scummy tactics to try and rail me to a mislynch. And if I posted more analysis of you dodging questions incessantly, you would claim that I am not posting my own analysis. (Funnily enough, what you accuse me of is EXACTLY what you've been doing the entire game. Freudian slip much?) By the way, timezone has everything to do with it. The day/night ends at 9am AEST (at the very earliest, when I am awake), and everyone else is asleep there by 1pm AEST, it gives me little leeway to try and keep up in an active discussion. And when it's 1pm EST, I am already asleep for a few hours. I guarantee that if the timezone was reversed, you would already be dead due to your scumplay and general malaise.
Why should anyone believe you when you throw in words like "inconsistent play", "reckless" and all kinds of vagueness in your analysis? Your analysis is the scummiest analysis that I have ever seen.
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GG everyone.
I do apologise to everyone for my slowish play. I found it quite hard to play this game, as joining half-way through felt like being thrown in the deep end. I was debating whether or not to replace myself once I had internet troubles, but I felt that would ruin the game. I am also sorry at calgar, if I was BM in my posting manner.
I thank Hapahauli very much for helping me not throw the game away, and also helping me learn how to post slightly better than I did at the start. I also thank Mufaa for giving me the opportunity to play badly in this game.
Cheers to Probulous/Acrofales/BlazingHand/VisceraEyes for running this fun game, even if they ironically forgot about us old bastards.
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