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zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 19 2012 14:25 GMT
#39
If you dont mind me currently being in 2 games already ill /in

Holy Roman does look like its ending though so my activity will be fine :D
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 21 2012 11:21 GMT
#100
Why is it, might I ask, a pro-town play? Last I checked it doesnt friggin matter if your methods work if youre being totally distruptive, which means no one is going to listen to you even if you get x/x scum correct.

For example in LI Tunkeg decided to post a list about how "good" people were judging by the number of games they have played, and suggested a lynch on Jackal because he was supposedly the worst player in the game according to statistics. I am going to assume this is what he meant to with that that game was simply to draw out reactions, and it didnt work so well, simply due to the fact that that list managed to throw off the thread into a lovely discussion (for scum anyway) about how his way of judging supposed skill level was inaccurate and stuff, how he should change the formula blabla, and basically with a few attacks on his play here and there, he had a decent portion of town thinking he was scum.

I will assume that one would easily see why he would think his stratergy isnt exactly the best when it causes him to nearly get mislynched day 1. Also being able to finger every single scum is great, sure, but would you trust his reads if he shits up the thread?

That being said, how is trying out a new style scummy, might I ask? Sure, it could be scum saying that as a preemptive excuse for different meta, but it could easily be town trying to play better as well. I find it somewhat suspicious that you decided to nitpick on such a thing - considering it isnt all that rare for players to want to try out a new style of play once in a while.

And yea Acrofales was pretty obviously joking around a little with the stats and some other stuff.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 21 2012 11:22 GMT
#101
EBWOP: since 2 people decided to ninga me that was in response to Acrofales' post
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 21 2012 11:39 GMT
#102
On May 21 2012 18:30 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 18:00 Tunkeg wrote:
@Zealos
I can see why someone would throw out a random vote on someone to pressure as number one (even if I don't think it is a great way of pressuring).You do this as number two on VE, for no reason. And next you are sheeping ET on his Acrofalis vote. Why did you vote VE? And could elaborate why you are voting Acrofalis?



Ok, vote on VE was a joke, as also as a cheeky backup vote in case I forgot to vote later in the day :X

I'm voting Acro because for the time being he is the best choice in my opinion. ET's case makes sense to me. Add this to the fact that in the last game he was scum he played similar to the way he is in this game, yet wasn't lynched, and I don't want to make the same mistake again. If he can start posting usefully, then it would help alleviate some of this suspicion.


Hey, care to elaborate on how his playstyle is similar?
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 21 2012 12:42 GMT
#110
Acrofales why you run away =(

Hi marv! Thoughts on the game so far?
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 22 2012 08:44 GMT
#249
About my lack of activity: I was quite busy yesterday. I'll probably be more active today.

I hate people who post with self-imposed restrictions. Of course this doesnt apply when people are actually able to remain clear - Foolishness in Aperture for instance. However, when it gets plain irritating and difficult to infer (maybe its bad reading comprehension but w/e) its a complete pain in the ass. What this obviously means is that I dont like Mattchew and want to lynch him. Yes its a policy lynch but I dont care.

Nova's posting is horrible, I agree. So he votes VE because VE is supposedly a bitch to play with and because hes a vet. As pointed out, terribad logic. But of course its a first vote, and its day one, probable joke vote, so lets just let that slide. A little more of bad logic on the Tunkeg point - if you really believe people are going to follow you reads AFTER they mislynch you for being disruptive.... okay. And town doesnt neccessarily have to be "sure" unless you are a mafia god/hacker who never doubts his reads. The philospohy of "Guilty until proven innocent" is useful but that doesnt mean that you can lynch everyone day 1 because you feel they havent proved their innocence day 1 enough wtf. Since I dont feel like going through the rest of it ill stop here.

I agree with VE that this lynch just seems so... easy? His actions are pretty disruptive though, and Im fine with killing him for the continious pushing of bad logic.

Im fine with either of this two today
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 22 2012 08:49 GMT
#252
By the way is there a voting thread. Because I dont see one and the OP states that there is one.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 22 2012 08:56 GMT
#253
Hey marv who are you suspicious of at this point besides mattchew? Can you also clearly state why you think nova is town based off meta alone? Because I cant see it being similar.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 22 2012 09:05 GMT
#255
Acid so what do you think of nova now? Why is marvellosity buddying with nova a scummy thing to do?
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 22 2012 10:32 GMT
#263
On May 22 2012 18:18 Nova_Terra wrote:
Furthermore what about my logic is bad aside from the tunkeg thing, which, may i add, was very unclear as the time as the way he had made it seem was where he had really good scumhunting but everyone liked to lynch him because of the type of scumhunting.


Eh it was pretty clear to me at least, but w/e. Quite a few things regarding the bad logic part, but some of those could be personal opinion.

I also said the sentence about guilty until proven innocent because you attack wbg based on this:

On May 22 2012 04:49 Nova_Terra wrote:
I follow guilty until proven innocent
WBG only posted general advice which shouldnt count for crap, defense of said general advice, and half omgus


It *looks* like you are attacking WBG because he hasnt done much to prove that he is town as you say, but considering that quite a few people (including myself) havent exactly done much at that time, it looks like you are willing to lynch a large portion of town in the first part of D1 for not sufficently proving their innocence.

Perhpas I misinterpreted.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 22 2012 10:32 GMT
#264
Also marv

Hey marv who are you suspicious of at this point besides mattchew? Can you also clearly state why you think nova is town based off meta alone? Because I cant see it being similar.


zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 22 2012 12:22 GMT
#268
On May 22 2012 21:08 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 19:32 zelblade wrote:
Also marv

Hey marv who are you suspicious of at this point besides mattchew? Can you also clearly state why you think nova is town based off meta alone? Because I cant see it being similar.




How is it different from LIV? Quite a few posts but generally not a lot of content, no?

For now I'm going to answer 'who I'm suspicious of' as 'who I'd like to be dead'. So other than Matt, Nova, Acid, and to a lesser extent Jeb.


So you think nova is town yet you want to kill him?

zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 22 2012 14:51 GMT
#295
[/quote]@zelbade
Care to answer the same question (strongest scumread) as I asked HiroPro?[quote]

My suspicions currently are rather weak. My strongest scumread if you would call it that would be zealos, who has been quick to jump on every wagon (VE, Marv, and now mouldy jeb). Whilst sheeping isnt neccessarily a scumtell, I dont like how jumpy his vote has been, going from person to person.

I would want to lynch him, but I kind of need to go and sleep soon and introducing a new candidate at this point will probably result in a no-lynch which I would rather avoid.

zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 22 2012 15:00 GMT
#300
Apparently I screwed up that quote tag -_-

Eh I just realised its pluarity lynch lol. I am considering if I should dump my vote on zealos and see if it gains any traction or onto one of the three leading candidates. Kind of a hard decision since I wouldnt mind all of them dying.

Mattchew is still being a pain in the ass, though his posts are starting to get understandable, and he actually has more content than say, mouldy jeb. Probably not the best lynch today, think hes town.

I still think nova is scummy. But mouldy more so. Agree with marv's case generally.

##vote: Mouldy Jeb

Also I am going to sleep soon (school) so I probably cant change my vote (deadline sucks for me as usual -_-).
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 23 2012 12:10 GMT
#491
Bleh.

I will need to reread the thread too, and will probably present my thoughts tomorrow.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 25 2012 03:27 GMT
#929
Sorry for my absence, had a really rough day yesterday.

Reading now.

zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 25 2012 05:46 GMT
#932
Alright did a reread.

I agree with a zealos lynch, for various reasons. I highly doubt a town zealos would lynch a "bad town" read, and presenting suspects after the lynch whilst supposedly having no strong reads during the day before the lynch is highly suspect.

##vote: Zealos

Another targert of intrest is Tunkeg. I already mentioned that I dont think that wanting to change one's meta is scummy, since players regardless of alignment might want to try out new styles of play. One point against him is that he didnt post that post before the game, but that is a minor factor to what I feel about his posting. He seems to emphasise that posting lists and reads gives "accountability", when in reality, it does nothing. How does knowing his reads, especially considering they are weak D1 reads which could easily be backpeddalled on, help town in anyway whatsoever? I have no idea what he means by accountability, considering townies can and will change their opinions overtime, and we do not need to know this. Notice how he also says that knowing his reads will help when someone is making a case on him. Wut? Why would a townie ever post something like that?

Lets lynch Tunkeg tomorrow after we get rid of zealos.

VE is also being VE as usual.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 25 2012 05:51 GMT
#933
Assuming zealos does indeed flip scum I will be fine with a katina vigshot as well. She basically has been attempting to push both mattchew and NT, saying that they should go before zealos.

Katina, now that mattchew has decided to abandon his post restricition and has started posting normally what do you think of him? Still want to lynch him?
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 25 2012 05:59 GMT
#935
The primary case against me is pretty much that I havent posted for quite a lot. Reason for my disappearance is something did happen and I wasnt in the mood for mafia yesterday.

Whilst lurking can be a scumtell, I oftentimes dont lurk when I play scum. Sure I am not one of those spammers who decide to spam up the thread when I roll scum, but this is probably the first time as either alignment for a decent length of time without posting, and it was simply due to real life cirumstances.

I was fine with sheeping the MJ case for a couple of reasons. Zealos was probably not going to get lynched, and MJ was my strongest scumread after him. I had not reread the thread at that time and didnt think that Tunkeg was scum, and was null on him.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 25 2012 06:00 GMT
#936
NT do you think Tunkeg is scum? What about VE?
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