EPTwas just wondering when this game starts, I didn't see it listed anywhere unless I missed it in which case I'm sorry
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WhySoMuch
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was just wondering when this game starts, I didn't see it listed anywhere unless I missed it in which case I'm sorry | ||
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This is my first game on this site, but I have played WW elsewhere so I'm not a total newbie. First off, with regards to No-Lynch, this is a very bad idea. We have 2 kills a day as of right now, the vig and the lynch, by negating a kill we are automatically giving the wolves an edge by not taking advantage of our kill-rate. Also, even though a villager is more likely to be lynched, the information we gain via wagon analysis, late vote changes etc. becomes very valuable as we progress through the game. And a random question: Is there any way to get more posts per page? Right now mine is set to default and couldnt find a way to make me see more posts. Idk if it's possible. | ||
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On April 26 2012 22:51 The_Zen_Man wrote: Hey guys! This is my first game of maifa, but i have been following other games a bit. I also think that the "no lynch" option could prove useful early in the game to avoid misslynch. The other game i was following misslynched on the first day simply because they didn't have enough information. Someone already pointed this out and I've already stated my position but I'd like to take it a step further, I find this post very wolfy, more so than Varient or however you spell his name who said the same thing essentially, because you aren't thinking deeper. You say in the other game they mislynched on the first day because they didn't have enough information, but how do we expect to gain information if we "No Lynch"? Day 2 will essentially be a repeat of day 1. Also, Voting early and often leads to profit, ##VOTE: The_Zen_Man hope i did that right | ||
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On April 27 2012 10:33 yomi wrote: vote## whysomuch werewolves are gay Okay. How do you quote more than 1 person though? | ||
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On April 27 2012 02:51 yomi wrote: you are for lynching on day 1 you need to be about 50% sure for it to be profitable in the long run. so we should probably do it, but you just have to wait and see. right now obviously I'm not 50% sure on anyone. I don't know where you got these percentages from. But they are not correct. | ||
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On April 27 2012 11:09 yomi wrote: what are the correct percentages No idea. But if Village correctly lynches 50% of the time, they win 100% of the time. Its closer to 33% and that's over the entire game and the chances gradually increase as the game goes on of lynching a villager. | ||
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On April 27 2012 11:19 yomi wrote: day 1 lynch town night 1 lose town day 2 lynch mafia night 2 lose town day 3 lynch town night 3 lose town day 4 lynch mafia night 4 lose town and now we have 1 mafia vs 3 town players day 5 lynch town, leaving 2 remaining night 5 town dies 1v1 mafia wins GG so by town wins 100% do you mean not 100%? This is the most obvious example possible and only relies on town losing the first 50/50 flip and not hitting any major power roles to create a loss scenario. I've never heard of a 12er. but in your example your point is proven But your chances of hitting a wolf increase as you go, there's no way in order to break even you need to hit a wolf 50% day 1 | ||
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I didn't really address the vote on me because I thought it was a joke vote, his reasoning that went along with it are because werewolves are gay, which isn't really much to respond to. That said I'm willing to say Yomi is a villager albeit misguided because a wolf wouldn't vote me in that spot. The other guys vote on me, Nreekay, is super sketch though. | ||
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Wolves: The_Zen nreekay Golden | ||
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On April 27 2012 17:06 O.Golden_ne wrote: Whysomuch, I am not shrouding the fact that I havent taken any stances in fact i have made it very clear. I fully plan on making my opinions even more clear when I come up with a case. I am just not jumping to any conclusion this early in the game, before I get my facts straight. I write long posts as I don't want to be misquoted from short one liners. Also, do you feel that my posts have been contentless or have I been helpful in analyzing the current voting against you and the others? Golden I know you have said you are going to make stance but you have yet to do so. Someone voted me with lame reasoning, you can either find that wolfy or find that villagery. If they don't add any context then you have to figure out what that means. It's not that you don't have all the facts, you do have all the facts. But from that you aren't drawing conclusions. On April 27 2012 18:02 Pure-SC2 wrote: @WhySoMuch - we are townies on a spaceship with 3 mafia hiding amongst us. There are no villagers, there are no wolfs. Keep referencing these and I will assume you are insane and request for you to be thrown out the airlock. You can quote multiple people in the same post by using copy and paste. Quote post, copy, then paste into another link. Not hard. Click the "all" button next to the page numbers to see all pages. Surely you aren't this blind and asked these inane questions to clutter up the thread for some reason? Villagers/wolves, Townies/mafia, all the same, I will do my best to reference them as such but if I make a mistake here or there I'm sorry, I have it ingrained in me that it's villagers/wolves As for the second, thank you for explaining, though you didnt need to do it with a condescending tone. From the forum I'm from, it is laid out very different than this forum and so yes I needed to figure out how you do it. | ||
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On April 27 2012 18:38 Pure-SC2 wrote: Why? Would miss-lynching a townie make you happy? What makes you think we don't get information from No Lynch winning the vote? Lol no it wouldn't make me happy, but the information we gain from it outweighs the negative. We don't get information from No Lynch because no one dies. The only way we get information is if there is a competing wagon against it, and in that case, that information isn't useful until that said competing wagon dies. | ||
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On April 27 2012 18:58 Pure-SC2 wrote: The information we gain today (whether we push a lynch on a suspected scum, a lurker or a no lynch) all provides us information based on who votes for what, and the reasons why. It's not always clear on Day 1 what this information means, and the game cannot be won or lost on Day 1. If there are no solid scum reads (with supporting cases), and no clear lurker lynch, then why push a lynch on a possible townie? Then we are one townie down and giving an advantage to the scum. So I'd say regardless of what or who is voted for, we gain information. So considering you are pushing for a lynch regardless, who is your strongest scum read? The_Zen_Man? But see by forcing people to vote for players we catch them in contradictions. No Lynch is a cop out vote, It gives everyone an excuse. "I didn't find xxx wolfy therefore I vote No Lynch". This is incredibly bad for the village. Where, if we have two competing wagons for the lead, people have to make decisions on who to vote for, a lot of times people forget what they wrote in earlier posts and will make votes contradicting their posts. This is invaluable information that we are giving up. Say we do lynch a townie, but the wagons are close and later on in the game, the counter-wagon flips wolf, we learn so much more. Plus on top of that, How is the village suppose to win this game if we don't use our kills? By No lynching we are essentially playing down a man from the start. | ||
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nkeeray's vote on me is really weird and I don't like it. Like why does he vote me there? he's playing on a joke vote from yomi, It just doesn't make sense | ||
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if we no lynch today literally I will be in shock | ||
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