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froggynoddy
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froggynoddy
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froggynoddy
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On April 28 2012 23:34 Kurumi wrote: If the game doesn't fill up till Tuesday I will politely ask hydras to break up and sign up personally. On April 30 2012 19:27 Blazinghand wrote: Come on guys, stick with it!! We're bleeding out players right and left ;_; + Show Spoiler [Dramatic interpretation of dudes /outing] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/JS5MM.png) Don't worry, if we cut off the hydra's heads 4 more shall grow back in its place, therefore providing an infinite supply of players :D | ||
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froggynoddy
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Seriously though, I doubt blubb's colour mishap is indicative of alignment. For the same reason a townie knows he is blue, I'd assume the same can be said if he were red. Its just indicative of not reading the blurb properly, as either town or scum. I don't like Katina though, attacking someone like BH who we all know plays ridiculously aggressive day 1, with little to know evidence, when BH is at least trying to reason out his suspicions. ##FOS Katina | ||
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froggynoddy
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On May 03 2012 23:02 Mementoss wrote: For those people who think im just spamming, I'm just trying to make the point that scumslips aren't a serious indicator of alignment. Scumslips should be used as supporting evidence, backed up by solid behavioural analysis. If we are going to lynch on the things such as scumslips on day 1, I would rather just kill BM or Kenpachi. It would be just as useful. I'm not serious about actually policy lynching them, but we cannot let them "lurk and live" till end game because its their "meta". It causes really awkward end game situations, where you can only guess their alignment. Though I sympathise with the thought process I'm pretty sure we should lynch whoever we feel is most scummy, that means taking into consideration lurkiness/quality of posting. Killing someone based on their meta is equally as flawed as letting someone live because of their meta. I'm not saying don't use it as a factor, just to bare in mind that the 'lynch a bad townie' logic is wrong and every game I've played where this has happened has ended in tears. | ||
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froggynoddy
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On May 03 2012 21:02 Palmar wrote: Kenpachi, is this a good vote? | ||
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froggynoddy
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froggynoddy
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froggynoddy
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On May 04 2012 23:45 SomethingAwesome wrote: Don't talk about Beneather. No reason to. When/If he post he will be a target for now leave him be. why? Inactives and lurkers are killing this day 1, its allowign scum to hide amongst them. I'd almost be up for changing my vote onto him if it gets him to contribute. I aso agree with Mementoss, Grush's case is weak but its the only case we have. | ||
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froggynoddy
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froggynoddy
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froggynoddy
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So I've read the thread, and though I find the arguments against Laya the most convincing inI think at this point we should lynch into innactives/lurkers/low content posters. I realise I'm putting myself in the firing line but hear me out. Scum have just lost 2 players for free, as has been pointed out previously its gonna take a lot of mislynches for scum to be able to influence town discussion in any meaningful way, this means IMO the best thing for scum to do is to sit back and hope for town chaos and OMGUS to divide town and cause the most mislynching to happen. As such I think its far more likely for us to hit scum by lynching into that pool of players then even relying on evidence that relies on quite a bit of WIFOM in the case of Laya. As such those with posts least in both content and number (apart from me), Ghost and Kenpachi seem to me to be the most guilty of the above. As Kenpachi seems to not want to play (and I don't buy the 'scum think I'm scum' logic as that only works if you're confirmed town) I will: ##Vote Kenpachi I will be available all day today and tomorrow so that I can try to make up for my inactivity. | ||
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froggynoddy
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froggynoddy
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froggynoddy
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On May 07 2012 22:15 layabout wrote: So you are saying that it doesn't matter if your logic for voting on day1 is weak/contracitory/scummy because we have limited information? No, I'm saying that its less likely of being alignment indicative then actual thread activity at this point. | ||
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froggynoddy
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On May 07 2012 22:12 layabout wrote: I would love to know how you felt that this: + Show Spoiler + On May 07 2012 04:37 Nova_Terra wrote: Next, Kenpachi Absolutely worthless, if you consider his connection case useful i dunno what to say Vote: Kenpachi On May 07 2012 13:19 PaqMan wrote: Just found out that I'm probably going to miss the lynch. I guess it doesn't bother anyone how fast a wagon formed on NT? I don't feel comfortable putting my vote back onto him. Hence this quote: His only post since D2 started. He ninja-voted D1, isn't contributing and the few posts he has are very lackluster. From what I understand Kenpachi is a veteran, yet he's been the least helpful out of everyone (excluding Froggynoddy, who is inactive). Also this gem: + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2012 06:31 Kenpachi wrote: ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME? DO YOU NOT NOTICE THE TREND HERE? NT i thought at first was not mafia but then layabout cames along and throws in POLICY LYNCH TIME NO NO NO WTF? NO i believe layabout and NT are mafia together because NT NT had aroused suspicions in thread andended in hotshit. He was completely saved by something so stupid. layabout, as his buttbuddy saves him with such a weak push that only the newbs are following. by experience, policy lynch almost always never works. its a scare tactic, not an actual method used to lynch people, especially day 1 i also believe marvellosity is mafia with them because he said NT is scummy and changes his mind like nothing happened such a contradiction, they were made about 3 hours apart. BM is a potent player and everyone knows that. I feel day 1 lynching a veteran is the worst thing you can do. If i were mafia, id put BM near the top of my priority list just because of his sheer experience. He made his scum reads and calls out who he believes to be the remaining scum team. But he doesn't push for their lynch or pressure them or anything at all. As of now I think Kenpachi is a better option than NT. ##Vote Kenpachi I'm hoping I'll make it back before the deadline but I'm not too sure. was the best lynch to support? Why dont you have a look through here and tell me what you learn about kenpachi's play? Then address the cases on the people that should get lynched: Blubbdavid or Nova_Terra or might get mislynched: layabout. Ok, so... are you trying to show me that because he plays like this both as town and scum we should excuse untowny behaviour? I don't like that as an argument as untowny behaviour should always be punished. That being said I understand that perhaps this would be a better job for any vigs we have left. It just seems unlikely unless we do unless we have a pyro. I will keep reading through threads and see if anything convinces me. As I said, other than what I think about lynching into inactives, NT's weird post (see above post) and your hard defence on Katina seem like the strongest indications of scumminess imo. | ||
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froggynoddy
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On May 07 2012 22:35 layabout wrote: It was more of an "inactivity from a player that's always inactive is meaningless". There is also some merit to the notion that scum will try to lynch Kenpachi. Ok, you might have a point. Will look harder at thread, I just found the cases so far unconvincing (but I guess thats to be expected at this point in the game), and as town is so far ahead I reasoned that policy lynches might not be so bad. I am not sure what you are trying to say but blue pyro's are trackers not not vigis. My bad, just missunderstood read Kurumi's explanatory post regarding Pyros and assumed that the explanation was for both alignment's roles. | ||
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froggynoddy
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1. I retract my point about Layabout's defence on Katina as being one of the most conclusive points... that was just plain bad reasoning and has been talked about and refuted enough, apologies. 2. Though I am not 100% convinced about people's (laya and mem) defence of Kenpachi, It doesn't seem likely I am gonna convince anyone so I will try and find other people I think are most likely to be scum. 2. This is the best post in the whole thread and I am inclined to agree with it, specifically as blubb has taken his sweet time trying to respond. ##Unvote ##Vote Blubbdavid Defend yourself. | ||
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froggynoddy
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Still don't like Kenpachi btw... | ||
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