EPTWheel of Fortune Mini Mafia
| Forum Index > TL Mafia |
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
| ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On April 21 2012 07:12 Snarfs wrote: Only policy lynch I will condone from the get go is the following: LAB (Lynch all Bluelightzes) I approve. | ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
I'm mainly surprised by Mr. zentors play so far, but I do not know him well, so I'll have to read through an old town game of him to get a better feeling for his play. Also, I'll have to read through the whole discussion again to get a better idea of what's going on. And now I'm off to the woods with my daughter. | ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
game mechanics stuff: - Hydras should sign. Everything else lowers transparency for town. - After reading all the pros and cons, I'd support a mason claim day 2. Reason: Many Vets + 2 masons = too many targets to handle for scum. D3 might be too late because of counterclaim (depends on nightkills and SK situation). On to more important stuff in no particular order: Mr. Zentor: I don't like how his "really long post" was actually not long at all, but only full of quotes. If we ignore the quotes, the post was quite short. So why announce it as long? His case on prplhz was weak, and when asked a second time why he thought that prplhz was still scummy, he never answered. His style is unnecessarily aggresive. VisceraEyes: His Filter shows 5 ingame posts, which is more than I have, but unlike me he is notorious for being very active borderline on spamming, trying to direct people and generally being helpful to town. He is completely lacking these features this game. His townread post is suspicious, I can't remember him making townlists like this in the last games? His behaviour currently reminds of the Bastard game we just were in, where he was SK. Ace: I don't like how he has basically been talking about game mechanics and shown no interest in hunting scum. However, I've read some games where he was in (last was space station) and I think this is part of his D1 play? Not entirely sure. Radfield: He would not have shown up in this list was it not for sbrubbles points. I think they are very legit, and I look forward to Radfields reaction. | ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
| ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
Therefore, his defense is moot, as Zentor might as well have gone for a new approach in his scum play. Also notice that his first post appears an hour after game start, enough time to discuss tactics in the scum QT. So if he was scum, it might very well be that someone else brought up the idea for this start of the game. | ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On April 23 2012 20:45 Bluelightz wrote: its an exaggeration. Anyway, if you guys want my thoughts on VE, here it is VE is town. This is what I argue when I claim town on day 1 etc, Would scum REALLY put themselves in the spotlight like that? Uh, my impression is that he exactly tried to avoid putting himself in the spotlight. He has 5 posts, which are a town list, 2 defensive posts about himself and zentor, a heart to rad and a post about game mechanics where he also tries to find out more about Aces possible plan(s). That's not putting yourself in the spotlight. Actually, that last post seems a bit strange, now that I read it again. He has not activily participated in this discussion about game mechanics but suddenly seems interested in knowing how Ace would deal with the situation? When I look through his posts again, this one feels out of place in comparison to the others. + Show Spoiler + On April 23 2012 00:08 VisceraEyes wrote: @Ace: I think it looks a lot like your Hypothetical Situation 2. The only issue I have with it is that we don't know if there's a cop OR medic present, where your HS2 was assuming an open setup. Wanna walk me through how your plan works if there are no medics/cops present Ace? Also, he is one of the few people who is not openly supporting a mason claim. @Radfield: + Show Spoiler + On April 23 2012 19:22 Radfield wrote: Marvellosity, you need to step it up. More content please. Also, if you want filters do the work and make them yourself, it takes all of 5 minutes. This is the definition of a 'safe' post. Everything in this post is a popular opinion that has already been mentioned by someone else. It hits slightly on all the major points of this game, without going into detail on any of them. Zentor -> parroting Forumite and talking like Zentor is scum, yet not stating that explicitly nor voting for him. Visceraeyes -> following Toads lead(backed by me), and again indirectly talking as if Visceraeyes is scum(or SK), without actually saying it. Ace and Radfield -> again parroting others points and slinging a bit of mud towards two strong players, without actually calling them out. So phagga, what is your actual opinion here? You seem to think both Zentor and VE are scummy, yet are doing nothing about it. Additionally, I have responded to Shrubbles, what do you think of my response? My problem is that I have a hard time making out something new, something that has not been said yet. There is not much content so far (which is partially my fault), and there is a lot of game mechanics talk that does not really show anything about the alignement of players, specially as pretty much everyone involved in the discussion agrees on the general concept. What exactly do you expect? That I'm going to make stuff up only for the sake of being original? Also, You can believe me or not, but the fact that Ace was only talking about game mechanics and not trying to scum hunt crossed my mind before he was called out for this by someone else. Alas, I was too slow, so it looks like I'm parroting. I'm still a bit undecided on who to vote on, which is way I have not voted yet. I think it is going to be VisceraEyes for now, but I want to read through Zentors filter first. On April 23 2012 18:37 Radfield wrote: 1Correct. I'm not sure what you find suspicious about that. Someone making a weak case is certainly no indication of them being scum, especially when that case is made in the first half of day 1 I didn't think Zentor's case was strong, yet I also didn't see Zentor as scum. However, both of those things may change with time. 2Something about prplhz is tickling my senses, though I haven't reread the game yet. I started to last night, but was too tired to focus. So now I'm up early with the intention of putting in some time before work. Prplhz is simply a bit too quiet for my liking at any rate. 3My reasons are my own for voting VE, though they will materialize in the thread before the day is out. The short version is that I've played scum with VE lately, and so far this reminds me of that game. 1 I agree with you that it's no issue. 2 So you just fling some mud into a vets direction without any hard facts? 3So you have a good reason to vote VE, but withhold because... well, you keep us in the dark why you are not telling us. why can't you tell us? Is the explanation going to be so long, are you waiting for more info? I don't see you as scum atm. I just thought that sbrubbles actually saw two good points (the second and the third) and I wanted to point out that I share his sentiment and that I want your reaction too. | ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
| ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On April 23 2012 21:10 marvellosity wrote: No, you misunderstand me a little I think. I was saying in Space Station he played suspiciously/scummy on thread and he was town there. Similar could appply here. If you want to go meta: In Space Station Mafia Town-Zentor got attacked because several people misinterpreted a post of him. Although some people showed a nice lack of reading comprehension, he explained more than once how he meant and always stayed calm. Compare this to his rude style this game, and there is quite the difference. MrZentor: You accused prplhz two times, how do you feel about him now? You're vote is still on you, why did you not change your vote to him? Or is there someone else you think is scummy? | ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On April 23 2012 07:16 SamuelLJackson wrote: ##vote VisceraEyes --- Toad On April 23 2012 23:03 SamuelLJackson wrote: I actually don't like the VE lynch much. -sandroba I lol'ed | ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
| ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
Yes, I still think VE is fishy, one post with some halfbaked accusations is not gonna change that. And no, I am not up for a Radfield or Ace lynch, as I think bot VE or MrZentor are better targets. Sbrubbles lurking is disappointing, but that's rather a last resort. I would like to hear something from MrZentor soon. Also, I think s&b's case on Snarf is rather stretched, I don't see any of the two as scummy currently. Bluelightz defense of VE seems strange, even for him. I know he can be superlazy, but normally he is still making sense as town somehow. Still not on the scummy side however. | ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On April 24 2012 04:21 marvellosity wrote: s&b's effort on Snarfs is the best I've seen so far, and due to my own failure to make good scum-reads, that will be where my vote will rest atm. ##Vote: Snarfs What exactly convinces you on s&b's post that snarf is scum? Could you please elaborate a bit? Because what you have written above is probably the cheapest bandwagoning so far in this game. | ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
VE slowly gets better, however i don't really agree with his initial lynch targets. Marvellosity is looking worse. The fact that he is just blatantly sheeping s&b without trying to put a little effort into his vote after a day of complete apathy to scumhunting looks suspicious enough. ##Vote: marvellosity | ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On April 24 2012 05:32 prplhz wrote: @phagga Why are you buddying me? Especially, you complain when marvellosity voted for Snarfs because he did so on bad reasonable, but I never ever put any reasonable at all and you didn't complain about that. WTF where I have been buddying you? So because I did not realize that you made the same terrible move that he did I'm suddenly buddying you? If you think everyone is your friend who is ignoring you then you have strange concept of buddies. | ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
I just read through your filter again, what differs from marv's filter is that you actually put some effort into the game throughout the day. You participated in discussions about how people behaved and who could be scum. Yes, the fact that you just voted snarf without reasoning is rather bad (I also did not like that Rad did it), but there is at least some substance in your filter (as is in rads) while marv has none. The last sentence was an exaggeration. I did not actively look out for you, so I do not understand how you think I was buddying you. This is why I implied that you seem to think everyone is buddying you if they ignore you. Just ignore it. | ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
| ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
marv: 4 votes snarf: 3 votes Zentor: 2 votes the rest is 1 vote or less. I'm off to bed in about 10 mins, need to get out early again tomorrow. | ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On April 24 2012 06:47 Ace wrote: @phagga: I guess you didn't see Bluelightz play in DFM 2. I did see it, but forgot about it. Point taken. | ||
|
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
##Vote MrZentor reading through some filters. | ||
| ||
