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Scariest Starcraft 2 Player [Teamliquid Pick]

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Last Edited: 2012-04-13 19:18:41
April 09 2012 22:19 GMT
#1
The mods allowed this thread to be remade as long as it remains objective to the goal it is trying to achieve (determine who is the SCARIEST player out there), so please refrain for flaming or bashing others because of their opinions or it'll be closed again ):

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***Next Round @ 21:00 GMT (+00:00)***

DAY THREE VOTING ON!

Hello Teamliquid, I really want to create a list of who the best players are for each race, and be able to rank them. We never really had a solid Power Rank for SC2 and right now I feel is a pretty good time to let the community objectively vote for who the best players are as I feel the hype around certain players has died down a bit (MKP maybe?(; )

The power rank is staying true to what Teamliquid made it to be. Which player is the most terrifying, which player makes their opponent shake before they enter their booth, when your favorite player plays against them tears start running down your cheeks. It's not about results, it's about which player gives off that aura, and no rankings that look at results can gauge that. How one-sided are the games, are they being able to troll players from the get-go because they flow with so much confidence, this is the player who we are after.

I feel as the best way to go about this would be pick 16 Best Korean Terrans, Korean Zerg, Korean Protoss, Foreign Terran, Foreign Zerg, Foreign Protoss, and put them into groups of 4, having 4 polls per race category, and the ones' who get the top two votes advance out of their groups. Until you are left with one final group.

I will to the best of my ability pick the best players, top #5 according to TLPD for their race will be automatically added the other ones based on respectable achievements. The numbers in front of their name will represent their TLPD rank.

So without further adieu, put your objective voting face on, put your inner hardcore fan inside, and please vote subjectively. When voting I ask not to gauge skills from the last week exclusively and consider time 3 months, and about as far as 6 months back the road.

I'm unsure whether there will be any interest in this, but I for certain am very curious, and I think a two days to vote for each round will be satisfactory.

So these are the players I chose for the Top 16:

Korean Terran
1 (T)TaeJa
2 (T)MarineKing
3 (T)MMA
4 (T)MVP
5 (T)SuperNoVa
6 (T)Jjakji
7 (T)aLive
11 (T)Bomber
14 (T)Ryung
16 (T)fOrGG
17 (T)GuMiho
18 (T)Polt
20 (T)NaDa
21 (T)GanZi
22 (T)sC
23 (T)PuMa

Excluded:

8 (T)TheStC
9 (T)Maru
10 (T)Noblesse
12 (T)IMHappy
13 (T)Yoda
15 (T)Byun
19 (T)Keen
24 (T)TOP
25 (T)Hack


Korean Zerg
1 (Z)DongRaeGu
2 (Z)Leenock
3 (Z)NesTea
4 (Z)Curious
5 (Z)July
6 (Z)Lucky
8 (Z)Symbol
9 (Z)Life
10 (Z)Zenio
12 (Z)LosirA
13 (Z)JookTo
14 (Z)BBoongBBoong
15 (Z)HoRRoR
16 (Z)CoCa
23 (Z)RevivaL
24 (Z)YuGiOh



Korean Protoss
1 (P)Tear
2 (P)Genius
3 (P)Squirtle
4 (P)Puzzle
5 (P)Oz
6 (P)MC
8 (P)HerO
9 (P)PartinG
10 (P)Creator
11 (P)Seed
12 (P)InCa
15 (P)San
18 (P)TAiLS
24 (P)SangHo
25 (P)JYP
26 (P)Alicia

Excluded:

7 (P)Crank
13 (P)HuK (Koreans Only)
14 (P)soulman
16 (P)finale
17 (P)Extreme
19 (P)GuineaPig
20 (P)Tiger
21 (P)Brown
22 (P)YoungHwa
23 (P)Choya
31 (P)Sage
32 (P)Tassadar


Foreign Terran

(T)LucifroN
(T)Strelok
(T)BRAT_OK
(T)ThorZaIN
(T)Kas
(T)Happy
(T)SeleCT
(T)SjoW
(T)Beastyqt
(T)DeMusliM
(T)MajOr
(T)Tarson
(T)qxc
(T)Naama
(T)Jinro
(T)GoOdy


Foreign Zerg

(Z)Stephano
(Z)Nerchio
(Z)Sen
(Z)LiveZerg
(Z)Snute
(Z)MorroW
(Z)Sheth
(Z)TLO
(Z)DarKFoRcE
(Z)Ret
(Z)IdrA
(Z)LaLuSh
(Z)Bly
(Z)biGs
(Z)DIMAGA
(Z)Killer

Foreign Protoss

(P)HuK
(P)NaNiwa
(P)Fraer
(P)Titan
(P)MaNa
(P)HasuObs
(P)SaSe
(P)Grubby
(P)KiWiKaKi
(P)Feast
(P)elfi
(P)BlinG
(P)Bischu
(P)NightEnD
(P)Socke
(P)White-Ra

*Notes: vileIllusion and Empire.VioleT would have been good picks but they were omitted unintentionally, no hard feelings to them (:

Polls

+ Show Spoiler [Pre-polls Info] +
Before the polls are created, I want to let everyone in the community decide if I have any obvious players I should have added. I feel like my choices we're pretty decent, but if there are any differences feel free to suggest there here, ideally a list that doesn't contain your top 8, because it's very possible my 15th pick would be your 18th pick and so-on. If everything is good, the polls will be created within two hours. Cheers (:

The players are given a seed from 1-16 depending on where on the list they are, and the groups will be created as follows:

1,8,9,16
2,7,10,15
3,6,11,14
4,5,12,13

I believe it'll yield good results, and be within a reasonable time-frame.

+ Show Spoiler [Day One] +

Day One
Korea Terran
Poll: Round of 16 Korea Terran Group A

TaeJa (602)
 
58%

Bomber (338)
 
33%

Puma (70)
 
7%

Ryung (24)
 
2%

1034 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Korea Terran Group A

(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Ryung
(Vote): Puma


Poll: Round of 16 Korea Terran Group B

Marineking (883)
 
84%

aLive (110)
 
11%

ForGG (39)
 
4%

sC (13)
 
1%

1045 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Korea Terran Group B

(Vote): Marineking
(Vote): aLive
(Vote): ForGG
(Vote): sC


Poll: Round of 16 Korea Terran Group C

MMA (852)
 
85%

Jjakji (130)
 
13%

GuMiHo (13)
 
1%

Ganzi (11)
 
1%

1006 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Korea Terran Group C

(Vote): MMA
(Vote): Jjakji
(Vote): GuMiHo
(Vote): Ganzi


Poll: Round of 16 Korea Terran Group D

MVP (598)
 
60%

Polt (348)
 
35%

Nada (31)
 
3%

SuperNova (25)
 
2%

1002 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Korea Terran Group D

(Vote): MVP
(Vote): SuperNova
(Vote): Polt
(Vote): Nada



Korea Zerg
Poll: Round of 16 Korea Zerg Group A

DongRaeGu (909)
 
96%

Zenio (16)
 
2%

Life (13)
 
1%

YuGiOh (11)
 
1%

949 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Korea Zerg Group A

(Vote): DongRaeGu
(Vote): Life
(Vote): Zenio
(Vote): YuGiOh


Poll: Round of 16 Korea Zerg Group B

Leenock (756)
 
86%

LosirA (85)
 
10%

Symbol (34)
 
4%

Revival (8)
 
1%

883 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Korea Zerg Group B

(Vote): Leenock
(Vote): Symbol
(Vote): LosirA
(Vote): Revival


Poll: Round of 16 Korea Zerg Group C

Nestea (792)
 
88%

CoCa (92)
 
10%

Lucky (14)
 
2%

JookTo (7)
 
1%

905 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Korea Zerg Group C

(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Lucky
(Vote): JookTo
(Vote): CoCa


Poll: Round of 16 Korea Zerg Group D

July (458)
 
48%

Curious (445)
 
46%

BBoongBBoong (54)
 
6%

HoRRoR (6)
 
1%

963 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Korea Zerg Group D

(Vote): Curious
(Vote): July
(Vote): BBoongBBoong
(Vote): HoRRoR



Korea Protoss
Poll: Round of 16 Korea Protoss Group A

PartinG (681)
 
79%

Creator (151)
 
18%

Alicia (18)
 
2%

Tear (11)
 
1%

861 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Korea Protoss Group A

(Vote): Tear
(Vote): PartinG
(Vote): Creator
(Vote): Alicia


Poll: Round of 16 Korea Protoss Group B

Genius (522)
 
57%

Hero (348)
 
38%

JYP (33)
 
4%

Seed (6)
 
1%

909 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Korea Protoss Group B

(Vote): Genius
(Vote): Hero
(Vote): Seed
(Vote): JYP


Poll: Round of 16 Korea Protoss Group C

MC (589)
 
64%

Squirtle (321)
 
35%

InCa (7)
 
1%

SangHo (5)
 
1%

922 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Korea Protoss Group C

(Vote): Squirtle
(Vote): MC
(Vote): InCa
(Vote): SangHo


Poll: Round of 16 Korea Protoss Group D

Oz (532)
 
64%

Puzzle (267)
 
32%

TAiLS (17)
 
2%

San (11)
 
1%

827 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Korea Protoss Group D

(Vote): Puzzle
(Vote): Oz
(Vote): San
(Vote): TAiLS



Foreign Terran
Poll: Round of 16 Foreign Terran Group A

SjoW (419)
 
54%

Lucifron (151)
 
19%

Beastyqt (117)
 
15%

GoOdy (90)
 
12%

777 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Foreign Terran Group A

(Vote): Lucifron
(Vote): SjoW
(Vote): Beastyqt
(Vote): GoOdy


Poll: Round of 16 Foreign Terran Group B

SeleCT (417)
 
48%

Demuslim (333)
 
39%

Jinro (56)
 
7%

Strelok (54)
 
6%

860 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Foreign Terran Group B

(Vote): Strelok
(Vote): SeleCT
(Vote): Demuslim
(Vote): Jinro


Poll: Round of 16 Foreign Terran Group C

Happy (344)
 
45%

Brat_OK (193)
 
25%

MajOr (149)
 
20%

Naama (73)
 
10%

759 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Foreign Terran Group C

(Vote): Brat_OK
(Vote): Happy
(Vote): MajOr
(Vote): Naama


Poll: Round of 16 Foreign Terran Group D

Thorzain (572)
 
70%

Kas (207)
 
25%

QXC (31)
 
4%

Tarson (8)
 
1%

818 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Foreign Terran Group D

(Vote): Thorzain
(Vote): Kas
(Vote): Tarson
(Vote): QXC



Foreign Zerg
Poll: Round of 16 Foreign Zerg Group A

Stephano (771)
 
91%

TLO (52)
 
6%

Darkforce (15)
 
2%

dKiller (5)
 
1%

843 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Foreign Zerg Group A

(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): Darkforce
(Vote): TLO
(Vote): dKiller


Poll: Round of 16 Foreign Zerg Group B

Ret (404)
 
49%

Nerchio (160)
 
19%

Sheth (149)
 
18%

DIMAGA (110)
 
13%

823 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Foreign Zerg Group B

(Vote): Nerchio
(Vote): Sheth
(Vote): Ret
(Vote): DIMAGA


Poll: Round of 16 Foreign Zerg Group C

Sen (468)
 
51%

IdrA (261)
 
28%

Morrow (178)
 
19%

biGs (19)
 
2%

926 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Foreign Zerg Group C

(Vote): Sen
(Vote): Morrow
(Vote): IdrA
(Vote): biGs


Poll: Round of 16 Foreign Zerg Group D

Snute (396)
 
69%

Lalush (84)
 
15%

Livezerg (53)
 
9%

Bly (40)
 
7%

573 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Foreign Zerg Group D

(Vote): Livezerg
(Vote): Snute
(Vote): Lalush
(Vote): Bly



Foreign Protoss
Poll: Round of 16 Foreign Protoss Group A

HuK (596)
 
76%

White-ra (96)
 
12%

Grubby (65)
 
8%

KiWiKaKi (28)
 
4%

785 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Foreign Protoss Group A

(Vote): HuK
(Vote): Grubby
(Vote): KiWiKaKi
(Vote): White-ra


Poll: Round of 16 Foreign Protoss Group B

NaNiWa (563)
 
73%

SaSe (100)
 
13%

Feast (66)
 
9%

Socke (39)
 
5%

768 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Foreign Protoss Group B

(Vote): NaNiWa
(Vote): SaSe
(Vote): Feast
(Vote): Socke


Poll: Round of 16 Foreign Protoss Group C

HasuObs (405)
 
62%

elfi (155)
 
24%

NightEnd (62)
 
10%

Fraer (30)
 
5%

652 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Foreign Protoss Group C

(Vote): Fraer
(Vote): HasuObs
(Vote): elfi
(Vote): NightEnd


Poll: Round of 16 Foreign Protoss Group D

Mana (397)
 
58%

Bling (222)
 
32%

Titan (57)
 
8%

Bischu (13)
 
2%

689 total votes

Your vote: Round of 16 Foreign Protoss Group D

(Vote): Titan
(Vote): Mana
(Vote): Bling
(Vote): Bischu



+ Show Spoiler [Day Two] +

Korea Terran
Poll: Round of 8 Korea Terran Group A

Marineking (313)
 
85%

Polt (24)
 
7%

Taeja (16)
 
4%

Jjakji (14)
 
4%

367 total votes

Your vote: Round of 8 Korea Terran Group A

(Vote): Taeja
(Vote): Marineking
(Vote): Polt
(Vote): Jjakji


Poll: Round of 8 Korea Terran Group B

MMA (222)
 
63%

MVP (88)
 
25%

Alive (35)
 
10%

Bomber (8)
 
2%

353 total votes

Your vote: Round of 8 Korea Terran Group B

(Vote): MMA
(Vote): MVP
(Vote): Alive
(Vote): Bomber



Korea Zerg
Poll: Round of 8 Korea Zerg Group A

DongRaeGu (301)
 
91%

Leenock (16)
 
5%

CoCa (11)
 
3%

Curious (4)
 
1%

332 total votes

Your vote: Round of 8 Korea Zerg Group A

(Vote): DongRaeGu
(Vote): Leenock
(Vote): CoCa
(Vote): Curious


Poll: Round of 8 Korea Zerg Group B

Nestea (277)
 
85%

July (23)
 
7%

Zenio (14)
 
4%

Losira (12)
 
4%

326 total votes

Your vote: Round of 8 Korea Zerg Group B

(Vote): Zenio
(Vote): Losira
(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): July



Korea Protoss
Poll: Round of 8 Korea Protoss Group A

PartinG (146)
 
42%

Genius (131)
 
38%

Squirtle (60)
 
17%

Puzzle (10)
 
3%

347 total votes

Your vote: Round of 8 Korea Protoss Group A

(Vote): PartinG
(Vote): Genius
(Vote): Squirtle
(Vote): Puzzle


Poll: Round of 8 Korea Protoss Group B

MC (213)
 
62%

Hero (83)
 
24%

Creator (23)
 
7%

Oz (22)
 
6%

341 total votes

Your vote: Round of 8 Korea Protoss Group B

(Vote): Creator
(Vote): Hero
(Vote): MC
(Vote): Oz



Foreign Terran
Poll: Round of 8 Foreign Terran Group A

Kas (177)
 
57%

SeleCT (99)
 
32%

SjoW (20)
 
6%

Brat_OK (14)
 
5%

310 total votes

Your vote: Round of 8 Foreign Terran Group A

(Vote): SjoW
(Vote): SeleCT
(Vote): Brat_OK
(Vote): Kas


Poll: Round of 8 Foreign Terran Group B

Thorzain (235)
 
73%

Demuslim (56)
 
17%

Lucifron (19)
 
6%

Happy (12)
 
4%

322 total votes

Your vote: Round of 8 Foreign Terran Group B

(Vote): Happy
(Vote): Thorzain
(Vote): Demuslim
(Vote): Lucifron



Foreign Zerg
Poll: Round of 8 Foreign Zerg Group A

Stephano (285)
 
83%

Idra (31)
 
9%

Ret (24)
 
7%

Lalush (4)
 
1%

344 total votes

Your vote: Round of 8 Foreign Zerg Group A

(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): Idra
(Vote): Ret
(Vote): Lalush


Poll: Round of 8 Foreign Zerg Group B

Sen (161)
 
50%

Nerchio (97)
 
30%

TLO (53)
 
16%

Snute (14)
 
4%

325 total votes

Your vote: Round of 8 Foreign Zerg Group B

(Vote): TLO
(Vote): Nerchio
(Vote): Sen
(Vote): Snute



Foreign Protoss
Poll: Round of 8 Foreign Protoss Group A

HuK (210)
 
61%

Naniwa (125)
 
36%

elfi (6)
 
2%

Bling (5)
 
1%

346 total votes

Your vote: Round of 8 Foreign Protoss Group A

(Vote): HuK
(Vote): Naniwa
(Vote): elfi
(Vote): Bling


Poll: Round of 8 Foreign Protoss Group B

Sase (188)
 
58%

White-ra (71)
 
22%

Mana (53)
 
16%

Hasuobs (14)
 
4%

326 total votes

Your vote: Round of 8 Foreign Protoss Group B

(Vote): Sase
(Vote): White-ra
(Vote): Hasuobs
(Vote): Mana



Poll: Scariest Korean Terran

MKP (251)
 
60%

MMA (80)
 
19%

MVP (75)
 
18%

Polt (9)
 
2%

415 total votes

Your vote: Scariest Korean Terran

(Vote): MMA
(Vote): MKP
(Vote): MVP
(Vote): Polt


Poll: Scariest Korean Zerg

DongRaeGu (259)
 
66%

Nestea (96)
 
25%

July (18)
 
5%

Leenock (17)
 
4%

390 total votes

Your vote: Scariest Korean Zerg

(Vote): DongRaeGu
(Vote): Leenock
(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): July


Poll: Scariest Korean Protoss

MC (187)
 
47%

PartinG (150)
 
38%

Genius (37)
 
9%

Hero (23)
 
6%

397 total votes

Your vote: Scariest Korean Protoss

(Vote): PartinG
(Vote): Genius
(Vote): MC
(Vote): Hero



Poll: Scariest Foreign Terran

Thorzain (223)
 
58%

Kas (76)
 
20%

Demuslim (50)
 
13%

SeleCT (33)
 
9%

382 total votes

Your vote: Scariest Foreign Terran

(Vote): Kas
(Vote): SeleCT
(Vote): Thorzain
(Vote): Demuslim


Poll: Scariest Foreign Zerg

Stephano (348)
 
85%

Idra (34)
 
8%

Sen (17)
 
4%

Nerchio (12)
 
3%

411 total votes

Your vote: Scariest Foreign Zerg

(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): Idra
(Vote): Sen
(Vote): Nerchio


Poll: Scariest Foreign Protoss

Naniwa (240)
 
57%

Huk (148)
 
35%

White-Ra (23)
 
5%

SaSe (10)
 
2%

421 total votes

Your vote: Scariest Foreign Protoss

(Vote): Huk
(Vote): Naniwa
(Vote): SaSe
(Vote): White-Ra


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Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
April 09 2012 22:21 GMT
#2
MMA scariest player in the world imo. TvZ invincible
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
...what
Profile Joined April 2011
England94 Posts
April 09 2012 22:27 GMT
#3
some of the groups are screwed up, eg foreign toss B compared to C.

I also think the context is important in this, MMA in a finals where he has prepared builds than MMA in a compact tournament format.

Regardless, cool poll!
SkimGuy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada709 Posts
April 09 2012 22:28 GMT
#4
Has to be HoRRoR by default xd
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
April 09 2012 22:28 GMT
#5
The groups are quite unfortunate I think.
I am interested to see how this turns out. Hoping the thread will stay open!!!
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
April 09 2012 22:37 GMT
#6
Cool poll !

(Some groups are screwed though (e.g. Foreign Zerg Group B is so stacked compared to others).)
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CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 22:49:11
April 09 2012 22:42 GMT
#7
wow there are some surprising results there... as for koreans i pretty much voted for the player who had the most votes, but i think:
sjow - goody - lucifron => the third one needs far more than the first two imo
thorzain - kas => i think its alot closer than ~80-20 for Tzain
ret - nerchio => i would switch the votes , also dimaga is underrated there+ ret overrated
sen - idra - morrow - bigs => interesting group, idra overrated, bigs underrated imo
snute - livezerg - bly - lalush => interesting and close too, bly very underrated.

also, where is sLivko ? OP didn't even list him (and not everyone listed is even included in the polls) and i personally think he is better than half of the players listed.


edit: i know all the polls have a very small sample and everything could turn around, but i was just commentating on the actual results
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
April 09 2012 22:45 GMT
#8
Are you going to be doing this on a regular basis because if not this ranking is going to be irrelevant in a month.
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
April 09 2012 22:47 GMT
#9
On April 10 2012 07:21 Yaki wrote:
MMA scariest player in the world imo. TvZ invincible


His 50-% TvP makes up for that.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 09 2012 22:48 GMT
#10
On April 10 2012 07:47 Aunvilgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 07:21 Yaki wrote:
MMA scariest player in the world imo. TvZ invincible


His 50-% TvP makes up for that.


Yeah if MMA's tvp/tvt were as good as his tvz he would be the scariest player by far lol xD
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nicknup
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil316 Posts
April 09 2012 22:48 GMT
#11
No illusion as foreigner terran after he beat 3 code s players?
Synergy
Profile Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
April 09 2012 22:48 GMT
#12
why the hell did people vote idra nearly high as sen... it's ridiculous because idra is doing terrible as of now...
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
April 09 2012 22:50 GMT
#13
On April 10 2012 07:45 red4ce wrote:
Are you going to be doing this on a regular basis because if not this ranking is going to be irrelevant in a month.


I honestly think it's longevity is going to be a lot longer, considering MVP hasn't done anything even close to impressive lately and is still being picked over Polt who has been getting to the finals left and right.

The one shocking result for me is Demuslim so high D:
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CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 22:53:14
April 09 2012 22:52 GMT
#14
and btw. i don't quite understand the "Scariest Player" (or other commonly used adjectives) part, it's equal to "The Best Player" isn't it?

I mean how can you be super good and not scary, or scary and not good?
Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
April 09 2012 22:53 GMT
#15
no question, Dimaga
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hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
April 09 2012 22:54 GMT
#16
Why is Violet missing? :[ Definitely Top 16 Zerg and if you want to call him a foreigner, together with Stephano the best foreign Zerg
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
April 09 2012 22:55 GMT
#17
TheSTC, Maru and Byun need serious reconsideration IMO. As well as Choya for Protoss.
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
April 09 2012 22:57 GMT
#18
On April 10 2012 07:48 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 07:47 Aunvilgod wrote:
On April 10 2012 07:21 Yaki wrote:
MMA scariest player in the world imo. TvZ invincible


His 50-% TvP makes up for that.


Yeah if MMA's tvp/tvt were as good as his tvz he would be the scariest player by far lol xD


Yeah. Slayers should pick up some more Protosses.
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Jlei
Profile Joined November 2011
97 Posts
April 09 2012 23:02 GMT
#19
On April 10 2012 07:27 ...what wrote:
some of the groups are screwed up, eg foreign toss B compared to C.

I also think the context is important in this, MMA in a finals where he has prepared builds than MMA in a compact tournament format.

Regardless, cool poll!


This. Give MMA time to prepare and have a gameplan (i.e. GSL Code S/A) his TvP weakness becomes a positive (beating Oz, and MC in last 2 GSL's) and his TvT turns from just ok to scary (basically has smashed everyone in TvT since October except for Alive this past season).

There is no coincidence his last 4 GSL's have gone Champion, Ro8 (lost to a bunch of Oz cheeses and Calm Before the Storm), Champion, Ro8 (beats Oz and loses to Alive's really strong TvT).

His style is prone to dying to timing attacks since he plays really greedy and he kind of freestyles and reacts in the compact tournaments. Against Zerg, Terran doesn't actually just straight lose if he gets behind to an early bust so even if he gets behind his godly style almost always makes him win. Against Terran and Protoss their timing attacks can just end games which is why he can die to an aggressive player like Puma or MarineKing or Squirtle etc.

With a set build against a certain player he will either get far ahead (usually) or at least get to the mid/end game without dying where his decision making is very good.

MVP used to be the King of both. His overarching style was so solid and powerful that he could just play standard and destroy pretty much everyone and he always pulled out some ridiculously strong builds in GSL (his cheeses are like ridiculous and he basically always wins).
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 09 2012 23:05 GMT
#20
MMA's less than average TvP is here to remind us that Flash still doesn't play SC2.

+ Show Spoiler +
But honestly, if his TvP and TvT were as strong as his TvZ, he would probably be unbeatable until BW S-class switch or something :D
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