EPTWon't bullshit like last game, I promise. No weird experements, just normal playing without coin-tossing when pissed ❤
Have to make up for my last game after all.
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Toadesstern
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Won't bullshit like last game, I promise. No weird experements, just normal playing without coin-tossing when pissed ❤ Have to make up for my last game after all. | ||
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As long as Palmar isn't dick enough to make me compulsive vig no need to fear at all! Also there's an unwritten law that you can't lynch/policylynch people from europe in a game with euro-deadlines d1. That would be an even more dick-move than hosts giving me a gun. | ||
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Move on, don't give mafia opertunity to talk about this "lolol so stupid" making it look like they do shit. Just pretend it never happend, thx | ||
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On February 21 2012 07:18 Blazinghand wrote: I don't like this sort of policy lynch. I don't like policy lynches in general-- they are/should be a last resort. it's 20 mins in the game. It's not a policy lynch it's pressure, that's it. If they really want to see him lynched it's time to tell people that that kind of thing is not helpful but they're not right now. | ||
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On February 21 2012 07:24 Blazinghand wrote: How not to pressure: say you're pressuring it's a vote after a couple of minutes... do you really think he'll take that for real? He'll get the message nevertheless, we want him to talk this game or we WILL lynch him the moment we run out of other viable lynch targets. If he is not changing his attitude lynching him is still okay after all. | ||
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Policy lynching because of a single bad game is complete and utter bullshit. If we start doing that we're not done policy-lynching for the next couple weeks. Heck, I shot 3 townies, want to policy lynch me as well because of that and ignore the other 6 games I did? If this guy shows up and changes his attitude he is fine imo. If he 's not he's getting lynched if there's noone else screaming mafia. | ||
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On February 21 2012 08:21 chaoser wrote: Why the big defense on Tyrran? It's the start of the game, he's got only 3 votes on him and no one has actually said anything about WHY they want to lynch him. No one said they want to lynch him based on his arkham city performance. Where did you get that idea from? The policy lynch discussion is based around redFF and how he's spamming, not tyrran. I'm not even defending him. If you look up what I said before that you'll see that I even mentioned that it's not people who are lynching him, it's pressure to make him change his attitude and not a real lynch, unless of course he's not changing a thing. I'm barly stating that I don't like policy lynches based off a single game and yeah that's what I thought when I read the first couple of posts. So if you got another reason to policy lynch feel free to link me something because I only remember arkham city. And again, this is not a defence on anyone. The only reason we're talking about Tyrann is because redFF voted him. I'd do the same thing if people wanted to policy lynch someone else, that's why is said "policy lynches based on a single game" are complete and utter bullshit and never said policy lynching tyrann is stupid, although the 2nd one obviously concludes out of my first statement. | ||
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On February 21 2012 12:04 chaoser wrote: Toad, what do you think about Jackal saying you're scum. And what do you think about the recent developments regarding RedFF? Does he still deserve a lynch, especially if we can't find anyone else to lynch by the end of the day? Catching up, that's where I am. Well he's drunk and I'm pretty sure he wants to get better reads on me by calling me scum like that. He has to know that calling me scum 3 times (I think?) in a row without a single reason, without a vote is not a good talent toi have. He got in this thread saying something and added "btw I think Toad is scum" / "btw Toad is mafia" without anything else. Clearly it got to be some fishing game. But whatever, I'm willing to play along, I just don't know what to make of it. The rnd "I just had a look at toads filter and agree with jackal" (I think that was redFF?) gives me more of a bad feeling but than again, we got enough smashtalk here and I don't think I should start that topic again. (implying it stopped somewhere the next fews pages, I DO NOT KNOW!) Oh and btw I agree with wbg on the matter that I can't read redFF properly. There's also a bunch of other players I don't think I'm capable to read that good. I played 2 games with BC, both times he was town and I thought game#1 he was town and game#2 he ended up being mafia so I got something wrong there. If you're reading this bc I'd LOVE to see a game you did as mafia that is at least fairly normal. Same about syllo. I don't think I ever played a game with him except for that one game, I was mafia, he was town and we shot him n1. So not much to read, although I've got the feeling his town and mafia play is actually quite alike from his irc games. | ||
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On February 21 2012 12:43 wherebugsgo wrote: I care about your opinion, same as I care about the opinion of the majority of the players in this game. [...] Finally, you probably know this, but as it's early morning in Europe I doubt Toad will be posting any time soon. I do not know if that is supposed to be irony or mafia-Bugs brownnosing :p With all seriousness I find that post weird. Bugs just isn't the helpful kind of guy as a townie and this looks like a helpful kind of guy. If someone like myself would make that post that'd be fine, same with pretty much everyone else in here, especially the newer ones but bugs? You're the hyperagressive guy aren't you? I don't mind you telling people it was late in europe at that time (I went to bed at 2am, so it had to be later than that) but isn't bugs usually the guy who might see this kind of thing but won't say a thing because he wants the other guy to defend himself nevertheless the get some reads? Remember L? He knew I was Town all along or at least for the last couple of days according to what he said. Yet he kept pushing me like a mad man, for fun and although he never said that he probably that to get some reads out of people like myself or people who are attacking me / defending me. So I've got to say the few lines out of that big post I quoted make we feel like it's not bugs usual agressive style. You all saw what he was like when talking to redFF although that's over the top because it's redFF and I think those two don't like each other. It's a minor thing but again, it really made me think for a moment. still reading :p | ||
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On February 21 2012 21:47 Toadesstern wrote: I do not know if that is supposed to be irony or mafia-Bugs brownnosing :p With all seriousness I find that post weird. Bugs just isn't the helpful kind of guy as a townie and this looks like a helpful kind of guy. If someone like myself would make that post that'd be fine, same with pretty much everyone else in here, especially the newer ones but bugs? You're the hyperaggressive guy aren't you? I don't mind you telling people it was late in europe at that time (I went to bed at 2am, so it had to be later than that) but isn't bugs usually the guy who might see this kind of thing but won't say a thing because he wants the other guy to defend himself nevertheless to get some proper reads? Remember L? He knew I was Town all along or at least for the last couple of days according to what he said. Yet he kept pushing me like a mad man, for fun and although he never said that, he probably did that to get some reads on people like myself or people who are attacking me / defending me. So I've got to say the few lines out of that big post I quoted make we feel like it's not bugs usual aggressive style. You all saw what he was like when talking to redFF although that's over the top because it's redFF and I think those two don't like each other. It's a minor thing but again, it really made me think for a moment. still reading :p oh gawd. So much mistakes, EBWOP above in my quote and a better example of what I was talking about below: On February 21 2012 09:59 wherebugsgo wrote: VE stfu you suck Everyone else sucks marginally less ATM. Mostly chaoser is doing the least sucking. Blazinghand learn to play I have to program for a few hours so I'll bbl. Till then I suggest you all brush up on Ver's guide since the last page has made my eyes bleed. That's what I'm talking about. That's the bugs that screams town to me. What I quoted above, the one in which he said I'm probably asleep and he values peoples opinion just isn't anything like that. | ||
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On February 22 2012 01:10 redFF wrote: verbosity, managing to write two long posts without any scumhunting. Now since then he's got worse, one thing he said especially leaps out at me I read this as "here's my excuse for why I won't be giving many reads this game" It's one of the scummies things said so far and something I'm fine with wagoning. Ooooor it's a player who sucked last game and shot 3 townies in a row as a town-vig himself and therefore changed his point of view on a couple of things, trying to start things a little slower than last game. But yeah, I also read that part you quoted before clicking "Post" and wondered if I should just delete it because people might misunderstand it. Ended up posting it nevertheless because I thought an honest opinion on that part is not going to hurt someone. It's not an excuse for not posting reads. If you want to interpret it that way please take it the way I posted it. I'm not going to post reads about those 2 the first couple of days. Yeah I know, I never mentioned "the first couple of days" but I figured it's obvious. Quick question: Do you think I am capable to figure BC or syllo out the first 1 or 2 days? Might as well ask if you think that other guys who are quite new themselves are capable of figureing them out in your opinion. | ||
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On February 22 2012 01:35 syllogism wrote: Actually you should be able to figure me out (see my Responsibility and Personality mafia filters) and it certainly would help if you gave your opinion. The things I posted about BC are straight forward and suggest a mindset that isn't focused on figuring things out. It's obviously not conclusive, but right now he seems like the best lynch. I haven't read those games but thanks I'll take a look at those. That's the reason I posted what redFF quoted. If you got a nice example game of BC being mafia that'd be nice as well I only saw him play in L and that 80-ish player thing were he obviously had to change his style a little bit to get to the new guys as well. Well I've got my thoughts about you two but I don't know what to make of them yet so I thought waiting a little longer to post something that actually might be useful is better than just posting a oneliner every now and then saying "well that looks odd". But yeah I kind of agree with you, I had the feeling he's dodging a little bit when VE asked him earlier on. VE was clearly overdoing it early on and I don't think mafia-BC would have troubles thinking of something to say so although I agree with you that it looks weird I don't think it's scummy yet. My thought was that he doesn't want to encourage people tunneling so early on. And as mentioned I'm not feeling comfortable judging you two yet so I'd rather not lynch one of you two guys. I'd also rather not lynch into vets d1 but considering how stacked this game is it's probably a dangerous thing to say that for someone like me :p | ||
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On February 22 2012 02:00 Jitsu wrote: So you have you're thoughts on them, but you aren't comfortable judging them? What happened to the Arkham Toad, where you we're going accusation crazy, IIRC. That happened to Arkham Toad: Ooooor it's a player who sucked last game and shot 3 townies in a row as a town-vig himself and therefore changed his point of view on a couple of things, trying to start things a little slower than last game.  | ||
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On February 22 2012 01:22 redFF wrote: Give some reads tyyran. second this one. I'm having troubles figuring you out Tyrran. Same about Dirkzor and risk.nuke | ||
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On February 22 2012 02:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I don't see why your bad vig play would affect the way you act in the thread. You need to slow down at night maybe, but why take a passive approach to the day based in-thread play? to see how this game is going before telling everyone "yo guises np, I goz this" | ||
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I really have troubles with some of his posts and here's what basicly happened and why I've got a bunch of problems with him:
I know, it's all minor things but it adds up. The reason I'm asking about this is because I'd like to hear other people thoughts. I'd say he's the most scummy for me right now. | ||
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On February 22 2012 03:51 VisceraEyes wrote: chaoser I'm torn on - he almost made my lynch list. However, I came to the conclusion that either one of he and WBG are scum or they're both town based on the argument they had late yesterday. Kitaman is like...I don't know. Not a good lynch for today. I'm waiting to see a bit more of his play before deciding on Kitaman. I could feasibly be convinced to lynch Toad. I'd have to see some arguments as to why he's a better lynch than, for instance, you. one argument could be that I don't want to lynch any of the people on your list just yet. Yes you pointed out 3 people who are weird to some extent but that's it. Same about Jackal. I'm not really convinced that what he did has to be mafiaagende or whatever you want to call it. After all it was pretty obvious. | ||
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On February 22 2012 04:08 VisceraEyes wrote: You've been a nonentity this game. In previous games I've played with you, you've had clearly defined scum reads and I'm not seeing that kind of play here. DocH is right - even if you're apprehensive about your reads (based on your performance in [redacted]), it shouldn't be affecting your day-play. You should still be scumhunting/pointing out inconsistencies/establishing yourself as town. I'm not seeing it this game. I did a big post about wbg and just a few minutes ago abou chaoser, didn't I ? | ||
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