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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
December 29 2011 18:11 GMT
#42
##Signup If there isn't any room, am I in the replacement list?
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 07 2012 14:10 GMT
#615
Hi everyone.

I've got work today, and I'm posting in the short time before I leave, but in a few hours I will read over the thread again and post my thought on issues that come up. I'll try to be as active as I can, but I may have some IRL commitments that will keep me from my computer sometimes.

Also, Thanks to Zona for letting me sub in :D
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 08 2012 01:43 GMT
#844
Ahhh! My work was way longer than It was supposed to be. D: I missed the vote!
Shame that Erandorr flipped town, but I guess knowing that is better than knowing nothing about him except that he doesn't post much.

I'll be here for another few hours, and I'll try to contribute as much as I can.
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 08 2012 01:44 GMT
#845
Starting with some reads on current suspects.
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 08 2012 02:07 GMT
#846
So, the experienced player obviously know how to play town (duh, they're experienced). They know how to be as helpful to the town as possible. Taking from Ver's guide(?) to town play:Link here (clicky)

+ Show Spoiler +
There are three main goals for the town on day 1 in a standard game:
1) Get useful information (often achieved via point 2)
2) Create an ideal atmosphere (will go over this in detail in town guide)
3) Figure out your plans/direction


The obvious way to analyze the situation would be to take the current players in suspicion and see if they are trying to achieve the above goals.:

risk.nuke: Filter (clicky)
1) Get Information -- I hate to make a meta argument, but I feel like it's necessary here. When I played with risk in Election, he spent much of Day 1 jabbing at other players and trying to squeeze info out of them. I feel like he isn't doing this so much now. Many of his posts have been reactions to the poking of others, and he's offered little analysis of his own. His play in this regard doesn't look very towney to me.

2) Create an atmosphere -- This goal is linked with the previous one. The best atmosphere for town is one where they can get as much information as possible. I feel like risk is falling short here too. He hasn't been offering many points for discussion, and his reactionary posting has most other townies snapping at him.

3) Figure out plans -- This is a tough one. There really haven't been any plans put forth by anyone, just some bandwagons and a lot of finger pointing. risk has been doing just about as much of this as everyone else.

Risk's play is looking a bit scummy to me. He hasn't been offering much solid analysis, and he fans the flames of the arguments in the thread. We definitely need to pressure him some more tomorrow.

More coming soon!
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 08 2012 02:30 GMT
#847
Palmar:Filter (clicky)
1) Get Information -- Palmar has been pretty active in this goal. He's been putting forth a lots of questions (even if no one answers them). He also pressured Bluelightz for a good while, trying to get an actual response out of him. He's also been putting lots of pressure on Wiggles, but this was mostly in response to Wiggles' accusation of him. I'd like to see a bit more justification out of him though.

2) Create an Atmosphere -- Palmar has been acting pretty town here too. He's been answering questions, and in turn posing many more. His posting hasn't been very reactionary, and for the most part, he's been trying to keep the town discussing relevant subjects.

3) Figure out Plans -- As I said in the risk.nuke analysis, there's hasn't been much of this in this game. Palmar is one of the closest to actually doing this. He's been trying to keep discussion relevant, and I guess this eventually leads to plans.

Palmar is looking like a townie to me, but don't stop watching him.
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 08 2012 02:35 GMT
#848
Anyone else on?
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 08 2012 20:29 GMT
#914
@RofL While I agree that we need a plan for day 2, yours is not the one I would go with. Mass claiming like that will only paint a target on our blues for the scumteams. We'll lose our blue powers so fast that we'll get almost no use out of them, and where will we be then?

@risk
On January 09 2012 04:50 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 04:32 syllogism wrote:
On January 09 2012 04:18 Dirkzor wrote:
On January 09 2012 04:06 syllogism wrote:
On January 09 2012 04:01 Palmar wrote:
yeah, this needs to be done now, or not. I'd rather go with not.

This is palmar scum claiming. He has been trolling for a while now but this is as close at is gets


If I had written that would you take that as scum claiming?

No, but you aren't a player who I talk extensively about the game, in and out of the game. It's extremely unlikely that he would say that as town and I'm pretty sure that when he wrote that he knew very well how it would look like to me; he has by this point realized that there is little he can do to avoid being lynched so might as well have some fun.

Imo a town Palmar would respond to that with a pretty huge post declaring why the plan is dumb alternativly if he approved of the plan he would write additional thoughts or/and reason further why it is a good plan.


I thought you hated meta arguments?
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 08 2012 20:51 GMT
#919
@Jackal Hypothetically, let's say I'm a complete noob and I don't know how to play this game. Explain to me: why is it obvious? Could you please give a little bit more reasoning, even if it is things that others have already pointed out?
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#952
@risk Night ends in about an hour and 15 minutes. Not sure what time it is in Sweden right now though...
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 09 2012 02:22 GMT
#982
Well, now that we know that Palmar is scum, we should take a look at a post the he made earlier:

On January 09 2012 06:41 Palmar wrote:
And when those two flip, kill risk.nuke, tyrran too. Probably bluelightz, and then find the last one. HoD is a possibility, so is Refallen, maybe Grackaroni...

Blazinghand, Cwave, Dirkzor, layabout, RebirthOfLeGenD, Spaackle, Zephirdd and Mr. Wiggles are town.


I'll bet we find Palmar's scumbuddies in the list of the people that he declared as townies.
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 09 2012 02:32 GMT
#985
@HofD Maybe not both of his teammates, but I don't think that he would bus his entire team when he's about to be lynched. I still do think that these people deserve a good look.
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 09 2012 02:40 GMT
#990
Hey Cwave, where you at? It's been 24+ hours since you posted something. Care to discuss any recent events, or do you have some brilliant plan that's taking all of your time to come up with?
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 10 2012 00:07 GMT
#1109
@Refallen. He didn't just derp in a post. He made a well thought out plan that would cause a lot of harm to the town if it were implemented. He then defended against the flaws pointed out in his plan and has not done much since. He also hasn't really posted any reads on anyone, just his silly plan. Why are you so eager to defend him?
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 10 2012 00:08 GMT
#1113
EBWOP ninja'd by BH. My points still stand, though.
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 10 2012 00:15 GMT
#1119
@ Refallen like I said, my post was a bit ninja'd by BH. Still, if you had been reading the thread, you would have known that BH was referring to RofL.
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 10 2012 04:02 GMT
#1126
I'm with you on this one, BH. At first I thought that the RoL plan was merely just an ill-thought out plan, but after your and Mr Wiggles' arguments against it, now I see that the RoL plan isn't just bad, but that it seems to be intentionally anti-town. I want to see a defense from RoL, but until then:

##vote RebirthOfLegend
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 10 2012 06:00 GMT
#1131
@Syllo. If not him, then who?
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 11 2012 05:31 GMT
#1263
So, after a bit more of BH and RoL duking it out, I've decided to Unvote RoL for now. RoL has spent a long time and a lot of effort defending it, and a scum Probably would have dropped it long ago. RoL is still pretty null to me, though.

Give me a bit more time to finish catching up on the thread and reading some filter, and I'll have an analysis for both Tyrran and risk.nuke
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Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 11 2012 05:47 GMT
#1266
On January 11 2012 14:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 14:31 Spaackle wrote:
So, after a bit more of BH and RoL duking it out, I've decided to Unvote RoL for now. RoL has spent a long time and a lot of effort defending it, and a scum Probably would have dropped it long ago. RoL is still pretty null to me, though.

Give me a bit more time to finish catching up on the thread and reading some filter, and I'll have an analysis for both Tyrran and risk.nuke


What? Are you listening to yourself?

If he were scum he'd cling to it since it's the only thing he's done all game besides lurk and fail to vote Erandorr properly. If he were town, he'd believe in his plan so he'd defend it anyways.

RoL of any alignment will defend his plan. RoL isn't null, he's anti-useful and I have no idea why you'd unvote him at this time.



Give me some time to read the thread. I'm inviting because I think RoL may not be the best lynch right now, and I'm going through the filters of the other main suspects. If I think that they are better lynches, I'll vote them, and if they're not, my vote comes back to RoL. Even if I don't vote him, I still think he'd be a good target for our Demon Hunter.

Now back to reading.
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