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I want to play!
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On December 03 2011 17:47 Incognito wrote:
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On December 03 2011 23:51 annul wrote:
/in
"Extended Majority Lynch" = ?
I think it's #/2+1 votes needed for a lynch.
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On December 05 2011 00:57 TruthBringer wrote:
I don't like the idea of using a zodiac list. I feel like it can be used by the mafia to get townies to hang other townies.
I don't think we should lynch anyone on day 1, personally. I know mafia get kills at night, but blues also have powerful abilities at night.
People are saying 6/25 is high, but it is probably offset by the town having powerful blues or quite a few blues.
Also, I've been out of the TL mafia loop for awhile, so if it comes to day 1 lynching, I'll be completely worthless as I can't read any of you at all.
What do you want us to spend the rest of the day doing if you just want us to no-lynch? Just want to sit around and wait for power roles to do our job? A town shouldn't depend on power roles, especially not in a closed setup. How do you want potential blues to direct their actions tonight? Do you want cops to claim day2? What about sanities? What if nobody claims day2, then we're back at day1 but with a couple of townies dead?
You are obviously not very dumb since you feel confident enough to post very concise opinions on zodiac lists and setup balance, but your no-lynch idea, I can't see how a townie could suggest such a thing.
Also, you proclaim your worthlessness lowering everybody's expectations of you. You can absolutely catch a scum even if you don't have any extensive meta with him/her (I think I just proved that). At the very least YOU CAN TRY, unless you don't want to but in that case you're scum and you can just die.
##Vote TruthBringer
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On December 05 2011 01:38 annul wrote:
thats a ridiculously early claim.
It might be early but I fail to see how it's a claim (and it isn't).
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@redFF
What motivation could there be for a townie to propose a no-lynch this early on day1 in a closed setup? Do you think TruthBringer is bad enough not to be able to figure this out himself?
Why do you think Palmar looks kinda scummy right now?
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On December 05 2011 02:06 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 02:00 prplhz wrote:
@redFF
What motivation could there be for a townie to propose a no-lynch this early on day1 in a closed setup? Do you think TruthBringer is bad enough not to be able to figure this out himself?
Why do you think Palmar looks kinda scummy right now? And what exactly is the scum motivation? Do you think they believe they can get us to nolynch by having TruthBringer propose it? Do you think they would realize what kind of reaction it would provoke?
The scum motivation is to push anti-town agenda. This is obviously not a team effort. What makes me jump on TruthBringer is that he apparently played before so he should be smarter than this. I find it very hard to speculate about closed setups but he does that and he talks about zodiac lists in a very confident manner that makes me think he is good at mafia, and then he proposes a very anti-town plan at a very bad time.
Addressing his follow up:
On December 05 2011 01:57 TruthBringer wrote:
@prplhz
We don't have to do anything on the first day. Sometimes doing nothing is better than doing something.
I admit that we have more data if we hang someone, because we can see that person's alignment and who voted for him and who voted elsewhere. But more data doesn't mean we are in a better position. If we hang a powerful blue, and the mafia isn't overrepresented in the vote to lynch him, that does us no good.
You seem to think that I can pick out scum just based on bad ideas, but some people are just not good players or come up with bad plans, how am I to know the difference? Like I said, I don't have the experience right now to make the distinction.
Also, there can be differences of opinion. You and I might both be good guys and honestly have different opinions on whether it is a good idea or bad idea to hang on the first day.
"Sometimes doing nothing is better than doing something." early day1 is a crazy statement. Then you says that the only thing we gain from lynch is flip, and vote lists which I disagree with, at least if the lynch is done in any proper way at all.
I'm not saying that you can pick out scum just based on what they write in the thread, I'm saying that it is possible and that it is in the best interest of town that everybody gives it a try. I don't have any experience with you, but what you say is still anti-town and that makes me very suspicious of you when I think you should know better.
Why are you proposing that we are both good guys? What do you think of me and my alignment? I'm not saying that it's always a good idea to hang people on day1, I'm saying that it's always bad idea to drop the idea of a lynch early on day1.
Can I ask, when you played before did towns often rely on power roles instead of analysis?
On December 05 2011 06:04 annul wrote:
im still waiting for purple haze to address his blue claim. if i saw it, mafia surely saw it too. and i saw it immediately. ;\
Yea I thought I responded to the "blueslip", I was not claiming and I didn't even know how you could think so before Radfield clarified everything.
I don't get the same feeling about Jackal58's post as Radfield and syllogism, I feel the same way as Drazerk. Actually, I pretty much agree with everything Drazerk has said so far (sorry). I am looking forward to hearing what Palmar has to say when he gets back.
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Okay, since people are still talking about it even though I addressed it twice:
I did not claim blue and I did not slip blue. I meant what Radfield wrote later; "Do you just want to sit around and wait for power roles to do the job (finding scum) that town is supposed to do by/for itself?"
Now can we PLEASE, as a culture, move on?
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People who have disappointed me with their activity so far:
StimilantE: Is this guy even /in? I checked his filter and there was no /in post. Is this guy in and does he even know it? If you are, then start posting, your XLVII lurking will not go in this game.
sandroba: Radfield also pointed this out. You said before we started that you wanted to try a new play style, can you tell us about this? It sounded a lot more exciting than you have shown so far.
hyshes: Well it is your birthday so I suppose I'll cut you some slack.
Soap: No posts.
Mattchew: Joking around and being useless.
If you don't know what to talk about then you probably haven't read the thread. If you have, then post here and encourage people to ask you stuff and maybe you'll get lucky.
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On December 05 2011 10:58 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 10:52 prplhz wrote:
People who have disappointed me with their activity so far:
StimilantE: Is this guy even /in? I checked his filter and there was no /in post. Is this guy in and does he even know it? If you are, then start posting, your XLVII lurking will not go in this game.
sandroba: Radfield also pointed this out. You said before we started that you wanted to try a new play style, can you tell us about this? It sounded a lot more exciting than you have shown so far.
hyshes: Well it is your birthday so I suppose I'll cut you some slack.
Soap: No posts.
Mattchew: Joking around and being useless.
If you don't know what to talk about then you probably haven't read the thread. If you have, then post here and encourage people to ask you stuff and maybe you'll get lucky. You missed Kingjames01 and Heir. Neither have posted. We also need more from Corrupt and Truthbringer, our two current easy targets. Jackal and Lanaia also need to jump into the conversation a bit more.
Yea, hah, people easily get lost in your notes when you don't have any notes on them at all.
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I have VisceraEyes down as suspicious.
I have only a little meta with VisceraEyes and that is from way back so I don't know if it will be of any use. It hasn't been so far.
It looks like he really wants to get Palmar lynched. He is buddying too hard with redFF and taking his case a bit too seriously. I disagree with his criticism of Drazerk and this is the only thing he's contributed to this game anyway. I think it's weird that he doesn't want to be a part of the nice town atmosphere that he points out we have right now, but he just places his vote and leaves.
Wouldn't lynch but wouldn't miss him either. He has to post more.
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I don't think the Palmar case is strong enough to lynch him on.
Do you think that posting an arguably useless list and proposing a definitely terrible plan is enough to lynch Palmar on, considering that he did it very early on and this is day1?
He posted a lot about how syllogism responded to it, like he was trying to convince people that he actually got something out of the plan. But in the end it was just another bad day1 plan that anybody could have posted to get discussion going, no need to try to justify that at all. I think that was a bit weird, especially when he didn't conclude anything anyway, he could really just have said "I just wanted to see how people reacted.".
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@TruthBringer
You said that "Sometimes it's better doing nothing than something." what makes you think that it is better to do nothing than it is to do something in the situation we are in right now?
Do you think, right now, that no-lynch is a better option than lynching somebody? If you had to lynch somebody right now who would it be and why? What kind of information do you think we'd have day2 that we wouldn't have day1 if we didn't lynch? Do you think the only thing to gain from a lynch is a flip and a vote list?
Why don't you think you can read any of us? Is it because you don't know how we usually play or is it because you haven't played mafia for a while and you don't feel confident about your abilities right now?
You also never answered my question; when you played before, did town often rely on power roles instead of analysis?
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On December 05 2011 23:36 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 23:27 sandroba wrote:
Yes, I do. I went to his filter and I can't tell if scum or not. I think the case on vader is stronger. I am a kite. I went to v7's filter and I can't tell if he's scum or not, I think the rng on Drazerk is stronger.
A null tell on vaderseven is 6/25, an RNG on Drazerk is 6/25, why is the Drazerk case stronger?
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I think TruthBringer and vaderseven are best lynch candidates for today. I will vote TruthBringer over vaderseven because I think he's more likely to flip scum. I don't like lynching Zephirdd or Corrupt.
I think Palmar has been uncharacteristically useless so far but I wouldn't consider him for day1 lynch. sandroba and syllogism are basically confirmed to me and I think that Radfield is looking good too.
@supersoft What do you think about my case on TruthBringer? You commented on one case on TruthBringer but not the other.
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This is all stupid, and extraordinarily rash by vaderseven.
##Unvote TruthBringer
##Vote vaderseven
Why are you just trolling the thread and then forcing people to do stupid shit like this Palmar?
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@Radfield
You have been very active and then now when town needs you to keep people from derping hard like this you just disappear. What do you think about this whole ordeal?
@Palmar
Should I even bother to ask why you want us to lynch redFF?
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This is a closed setup.
I don't think a town dayvig would just shoot so rashly like that and then into a guy he has no read on. Palmar said that you needed to shoot a scum and then you just shoot a random useless lurker. Why didn't you wait for other people to show up and support you against Palmar? This all seems like you felt vulnerable and threatened and like you needed to get your shot off in a hurry and that you didn't care if it hit a townie, even though you were asked to hit a scum. I already found you suspicious and this didn't help at all.
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Stop voting Palmar.
We are not lynching Palmar/syllogism/sandroba/Radfield/redFF/Jackal58 today. Also, Palmar is not scum, his role claim makes zero sense from scum perspective. Drazerk's tunneling is weird.
My biggest scum leads are vaderseven and TruthBringer, but I am willing to vote for Lanaia and Hier. I think that there's a bigger chance of Lanaia flipping scum so she will get my vote today.
##Vote Lanaia
Okay back to reading, I'm at top of page 45.
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No the case against Lanaia is much stronger. She's derped around but she's not in a position to do that. If you look at Palmar's actions today they make perfect sense from town point of view and no sense from scum point of view.
Lanaia doesn't put herself out there, her opinions are wishy washy and I'm pretty sure she's a lot better than this. She also delurks when called out, but she doesn't contribute anyway.
Palmar has been out there. His dayvig claim came at a time when the thread was getting kind of stale and it was with a clear motive in mind. He unclaimed when he couldn't get what he wanted, but for some reason vaderseven still decided to go crazy and shoot somebody. Palmar did what all good townies are supposed to do day1, steer the thread in a good direction by putting themselves out there, maybe even in a slightly scummy way.
People need to stop voting Palmar and start voting Lanaia. She's our best bet for a scum lynch today.
Back to reading.
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Drazerk needs to get his head out of his ass.
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