TL Mafia XLVIII

On December 05 2011 21:46 sandroba wrote:
Okay so here it is:

Syllogism: Unless he found a new love for being mafia exactly this game, I'm pretty surre he is town. He could have opted to post waaaay less day1 and still I wouldn't suspect him, because that's usually how he operates. Instead he is getting this thread moving, posting a shitton and generating discussion.

On December 05 2011 21:46 sandroba wrote:
Jackal: I went over his day1 on xlvii and found his tone to be pretty simillar. Dunno what to make of him yet.

On December 05 2011 21:53 Toadesstern wrote:
Ok because of you guys saying there's so much useless people I just looked into people I thought might be useless and found truthbringer to be strange+ Show Spoiler +

First of all, that's basicly everything he said so far.

Now on to what he said. Quote1:
He said that not doing a thing might be a good idea. Read: While people like radfield ar saying something along the lines "guys, a no-lynch is not the end of the world" TruthBringer looks like he wants us to chill and do nothing. Maybe Radfield is right, maybe a nolynch is not the worst thing that could happen to town but I sure as hell don't want it to happen, neither do I want an atmosphere of "let's just chill we don't have to do something right now".

More data is not always good? Well yeah if someone is bombing the thread and 3 pages in a row would be only posts from one guy, that probably would not help at all, but other than that I'd actually like to have a lot of data for several reasons.
First of all a lot of data means our reads are better because there's always strange things. As he said, some people are maybe new, some may just have another opionion about some topic, that doesen't necessarily mean they're scum. If I find someone saying something that is wrong in my opinion I'll call him out. If I find someone who is doing illogical stuff several times that's bad, if I find someone who's doing illogical stuff all the time I want him to hang. So more information gives us a better read because it tells me if that guy is consistent, no matter in which direction. If I get less posts from someone that means that both my reads could be wrong because makeing a single good or bad call isn't something special at all.
Also More data means more talk. If you tell people we don't need to talk mafia is not talking at all which means you're denieing them the chance to make mistakes.

Paragraph2.5 He's scared to hang a blue. Why is that? Sure I don't want to hang a blue but I guess those people can defend themselves if we're fosing them. Why even mentioning blues in the first place? It's not like we're less likely to lynch a blue because you said that.

His 3rd paragraph is kind of a nulltell. I mean that's basicly what mafia is about, figureing out if people did a mistake because they thought they're right or if they did it on purpose.

4th paragraph is another nulltell.

On to the second quote:
The quote itself is not strange. However he is contradicting everything he said in quote 1 here.

On December 05 2011 23:18 sandroba wrote:
@ss I don't think he is scum. If you go back to his previous game (xlvii) and filter him there you will notice the exact same trend of making huge posts and being very prolix when arguing something simple. Can you explain to me what exactly makes him suspicious to you?

On December 05 2011 09:40 vaderseven wrote:
More people should vote. Votes are the one thing that make you accountable to evidence and motives.

The lack of votes makes the conversation more abstract.

On December 05 2011 01:36 prplhz wrote:


What do you want us to spend the rest of the day doing if you just want us to no-lynch? Just want to sit around and wait for power roles to do our job? A town shouldn't depend on power roles, especially not in a closed setup. How do you want potential blues to direct their actions tonight? Do you want cops to claim day2? What about sanities? What if nobody claims day2, then we're back at day1 but with a couple of townies dead?

You are obviously not very dumb since you feel confident enough to post very concise opinions on zodiac lists and setup balance, but your no-lynch idea, I can't see how a townie could suggest such a thing.

Also, you proclaim your worthlessness lowering everybody's expectations of you. You can absolutely catch a scum even if you don't have any extensive meta with him/her (I think I just proved that). At the very least YOU CAN TRY, unless you don't want to but in that case you're scum and you can just die.

##Vote TruthBringer

On December 06 2011 00:33 Mattchew wrote:

Its not a direct contradiction.. just "feels" different.

Also,
Prplhz, Draz, and redFF were all mafia in the last game and are playing completely different this time around. So far they all come off as town to me.

On December 06 2011 01:23 syllogism wrote:
If neither of you is lying, I think it's a pretty reasonable assumption that there aren't two town day vigs. Would you two agree?

On December 06 2011 02:08 redFF wrote:


why didn't you specify who you thought he should shoot in your previous post?