Pick Your Power Interesting!

On October 15 2011 21:24 Radfield wrote:




Is there an actual argument in here somewhere? Basically what you are saying is that there is a risk I may be scum, and therefore should not be mayor. But what does a scum Radfield as mayor really look like? Fact is, regardless of what you think my alignment is, you should know from my playstyle that I will be hunting scum no matter what. You may think that my role in my hands could be dangerous, but I have a role which can confirm itself(and is shown to NOT be dangerous to town), and works with great synergy as the mayor position.

On October 15 2011 21:24 Radfield wrote:
You're also completely ignoring the vast upside of having a pro-town Radfield in an elected slot. If I am allowed to live till late-game, which an elected position will grant me, I will undoubtedly be a game changing presence in favor of town. I am clear thinking, good at scum hunting, and excellent at keeping town discussion moving in productive directions. You may think that I can give these benefits without the protection of an elected position, but I will be dead night 1.

On October 15 2011 21:24 Radfield wrote:
There are 12 players actively opposed to seeing me elected. There are 12 players actively trying to cut me down and reduce my effectiveness. There are 12 players who want me dead and out of this game.

Bugs, if you are NOT one of those 12 player, then you need to shape up and stop doing their work for them. Let me do my job.

Your day 1 scum reads are notoriously poor, yet you always push them with reckless abandon. Take off your scum-goggles, and slow down. In LOTR you had awful reads day 1, and solid reads every day after that(in the dead QT).

On October 16 2011 01:58 JACCUZISPLAT wrote:

have you ever identified mig as scum? because all that happens every pm game you 2 play is you work together from the very start.

in kurumi's tf2 mafia with like 5 vets, you claimed to mig day 1. for no other reason that you thought he was town.

I assume you've claimed to mig this game as well. All i want to know is why you think he is town. please.



Hiro is our lynch today everybody. He doesn't want a powerful role in office(#3 pick). I'm not sure why, maybe because that person could be scum with a powerful role? But then we could just lynch this person right? I just don't understand where he's coming from with that and it just looks like he doesn't want a powerful pick in office because it will be harder to night kill.

I can't trust mig because i have seen nothing that convinces me he is town. Mig is, as far as i can tell, syllogism's mafia hero, so syllo instantly thinks he is town every game.

this leaves us with radfield, jimbo and greymist as viable candidates.

I've established jimbo isn't on the same scumteam as hiro but i'm not sure how town he is.

Radfield is weird. He is obviously an excellent scumhunter(go read the last day of the last pyp for this.), but his posts have an off feeling to them.


this vote by hiro also comes off as odd. He also said he wants radfield in office because he is a good scumhunter, but he only knows this by representation. Hiro has basically given no reasons to be voting radfield over chaoser or jimbo, both of them also good scumhunters.(I think i know who jimbo is, so that's why im including him). Now either Radfield is scumbuddies with hiro or hiro is just scum putting down an easy vote, but it makes me uneasy of radfield.

Greymist is not experienced enough to be mayor in this game.

Foolishness would have had my vote looking at past games and experience but it seems he's barely playing in this game.

so in conclusion you should still vote me.

On October 15 2011 22:07 supersoft wrote:
in xlv wbg had aweful scumreads everyday :D
sorry but i have to agree with radfield there. you should slow it down a little. noone will listen to you if you spam like that. in this game, this playstyle of massive talking doesnt even confirm you as townie if you're right with your accusations. you could very well be a member of a opponent scumteam.
seriously, noone knows 100% sure that mig or rad are town. its a decision based on meta. i didn't vote mig because i think hes more likely town than rad. i vote him because i know him. at this point of the game given a 43% scumrate noone is confirmed by any mean!
we have no influence. All we can do and in my opinion we have to do is voting a mayor that is active and experienced.
if he's scum, we have to control him and we can control him. worst case is an inactive inexperienced and therefor a useless mayor.

On October 21 2011 05:23 supersoft wrote:
tbh i lost every interest in this game. i am not scum and hider is a decent defensive role at #18
i can confirm others like eran and i can hide behind guaranteed townies.
mig, if you dont answer my pms, i cant do anything.
i tried to do something together with palmar. but since genius jackal bombed him away I am completely isolated.
+ wbg is so annoying, i wont ever play a game with him again. his selfconfidence is just ridiculous when you see his results.

if i were scum, this idiot would be dead by now. thats for sure.. maybe not to win, but to have fun in this game.