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I am sure some of you saw this in the news a couple weeks back...
"Last night at the entrance to the University of California Santa Cruz over two hundred students gathered to discuss the direction higher education has taken has taken in recent years. In defiance of the orders of the university administration the gathering had reached consensus that they would continue the event in a respectful and orderly fashion past the 8 pm curfew imposed on "Free Speech Zone". The university leadership, headed by newly purchased chancellor Denice D. Denton, resorted to physical violence at about 10 pm to terminate the peaceful assembly.The show of force by local authorities was impressive in both its violence and calculated callousness. Interesting also was the obvious control of local police forces which was demonstrated by the UC. While this morning's press release misrepresented the administration's concern for its students in stating the the police were called off over fears of saftey the ommited truth is that student leaders of the event negotiated a cease to the attack by the cops at which point the university called them off. Despite police claims of illegal activity at the site they had no qualms about leaving the scene of the crime once the U hit the off button. "
Here is a link to videos of what happened. I personally could not watch the entirety of most of the videos and they are certainly not for the faint hearted: Videos of The Police Brutality
It should also be noted that most of the cops were called in from Berkeley, which is about 1 hour and 30 minutes away from Santa Cruz. Another important note, not really sure about the validity of it, is that the organizers of the protest became somewhat disenchanted with the direction it was taking before the police showed up, and that the police somewhat effectively put an end to what was suppose to be a large protest over the course of a week, turning it into a much smaller and less focused protest.
More Links: A Photo Essay Of That Day Web Home of The Protest Summary of Events On That Day
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MURICA15980 Posts
Sounds crazy. Going to the videos now :O
Hmm... was that absolutely neccessary? I mean they knocked out every single person and pried them out just to get enforce a little cerfew? Seems excessive.
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United States12235 Posts
That was dumb. That video was so heavily edited that it didn't show what the protesters did to provoke the police. The police don't just run in and start beating on people like you claim. Those students were idiots, too. They were screaming "you're strangling him!" when it's obviously just a sleeper pinch. Come the fuck on, man. You and the rest of these insane doped-up hippies are so paranoid of "the establishment" that it's sickening. Police were not "physically violent" towards people.
This is directly reminiscent of when an alumni of my high school came to show us video and reports of "police brutality" of a protest he visited in Seattle. His video was also heavily edited. What he failed to report was the protesters throwing rocks at the blue line and preventing passersby from entering local businesses. There are always two sides to a story. Talk about petty distortion of fact.
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they get pretty rough in Cali, when it comes to police wanting things done their way.
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lmao that was hardly police brutality
the police were just enforcing the law, namely, getting those fucking deadbeat hippies to get the hell off of university properly after they had already been told to do so, subduing the particularly unruly ones with sleeper pinches
unless the cops blast into the crowd and start blackjacking hippies until their knees break, don't go crying about "police brutality"
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Excal you are a fucking idiot. They were fucking sitting their not moving to a proposed site inside of campus that served no purpose for their protest. Out of an estimated 200 people, the cops arrested 19 of them, and they were all peacefully protesting, I do not think one cop got hurt in the entire incident. And I never claimed the police ran in and beat on people, but I think it is clear that the force they used was entirely unnecessary, do you really need to knock out a bunch of students who are camping on university grounds, in a supposed free speach zone (where free speach ends at 8 pm) just to make them move to a place that serves very little purpose for their protest. Unfortunately the university, the chancellor, and the police were somewhat successful in derailing the protest, because of the horrific actions that took place that night.
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I hate stupid hippies who think they can do whatever they want, and whine whenever action is taken against them. That isn't brutality, it's called enforcing the law, and it wasn't even that harsh.
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Santa Cruz is a smaller island within Catalina?
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On April 30 2005 10:35 lil.sis wrote:
lmao that was hardly police brutality
the police were just enforcing the law, namely, getting those fucking deadbeat hippies to get the hell off of university properly after they had already been told to do so, subduing the particularly unruly ones with sleeper pinches
unless the cops blast into the crowd and start blackjacking hippies until their knees break, don't go crying about "police brutality"
They forced them to move somewhere else on university property... they arrested 19 out of 200 in a couple of hours, and then were forced to stop by the university. The "unruly" ones simply formed a human chain, and the police used excessive force. None of the people arrested were charged with anything.
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" None of the people arrested were charged with anything."
that's too bad
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Stupid protestors should shutup and live with whatever is imposed on them. That's the American way.
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On April 30 2005 10:38 ihatett wrote:
I hate stupid hippies who think they can do whatever they want, and whine whenever action is taken against them. That isn't brutality, it's called enforcing the law, and it wasn't even that harsh.
... do you people even know who/what are hippies? There certainly were hippies at the protest, but the majority of the protestors were not hippies, including the people who set the whole thing up. I do not know how many protests you have ever been too, if any, but I think it is clear that a line was crossed that did not need to be.
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they pinched a bunch of people....you want police brutality? watch the martin luther king video....
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United States12235 Posts
Your links are suspect Solsito. All of them are notoriously and flagrantly anti-police and anti-military. Especially take a look at "-UCSC students successfully kick military recruiters off campus using direct action. See pictures part 1 and 2." Yeah, real peaceful, right? Charging into a designated area for military VOLUNTEER recruitment and forcibly kicking them out?
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On April 30 2005 10:40 danmooj1 wrote:
Santa Cruz is a smaller island within Catalina?
In this case it is a city on the central coast of California, south of San Francisco and west of San Jose
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On April 30 2005 10:49 ronhaak wrote:
they pinched a bunch of people....you want police brutality? watch the martin luther king video....
lol you mean rodney king?
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On April 30 2005 10:47 SoLsiTO wrote:
....I think it is clear that a line was crossed that did not need to be.
dude if the university wanted them off of the property, and the people protesting did not comply, how else are they supposed to get them off? i'm sure the police didn't resort to physical contact immediately.
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oh god. not another counterculture movement please.
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United States12235 Posts
On April 30 2005 10:49 ronhaak wrote:
they pinched a bunch of people....you want police brutality? watch the martin luther king video....
I think you mean the Rodney King video... and even that wasn't unwarranted since the officers were being provoked.
I think you guys are missing the big picture here. You treat the police and the military like they are soulless killing machines. They are just average Joes like you and me. They have a very stressful job that you could never hope to do. They gamble with their lives daily because you never know when a person will turn violent. I'll turn your attention to the story in SF where a white cop was shot in the neck and killed by two black 17-year-olds as they were robbing a bank. The officer yelled at them to stop and they just fired. The police code forces the officer to set aside his survival instincts and open fire, and instead gamble on the actions of an unstable mind.
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On April 30 2005 10:50 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Your links are suspect Solsito. All of them are notoriously and flagrantly anti-police and anti-military. Especially take a look at "-UCSC students successfully kick military recruiters off campus using direct action. See pictures part 1 and 2." Yeah, real peaceful, right? Charging into a designated area for military VOLUNTEER recruitment and forcibly kicking them out?
Let me make my position clear, I do not necessarily agree with the protestors. I think there are a lot better things they could be doing/protesting and actually be somewhat productive when doing them. However, the police crossed a line that did not need to be crossed, the protestors in this case were entirely peaceful.
About the other protest you mentioned, I believe in that case the protesters were at fault. They should not have kicked the Marines out of the job fair, if there are people who are interested in joining the marines they should be allowed to do so, the protesters in that case were entirely antiproductive to their cause and beliefs and were entirely stupid (they were following a precedence set by other schools, and kicked them out under the pretense of the military not being an equal opportunity employer).
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