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On April 30 2005 11:07 Excalibur_Z wrote:
So then they quickly open the door and drag him out before he can get to a weapon (they assume he has one) and they subdue him with some rough physical force. He keeps resisting so the officers keep hitting him. So what would YOU do in the cops' situation? The constant beating wasn't necessarily a good thing, but remember what I said before about how stressful being a cop is.
Do you really believe what you just said.
Honestly.
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and solsito
you sound incredibly biased :-(
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i am, who isn't? i remind you that i did/do not really support the protest. i was not that upset about what happened untill i saw a few clips of what happened. there are other videos besides the ones on that site, many of which have been shown in a few of my classes.
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On April 30 2005 10:50 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Your links are suspect Solsito. All of them are notoriously and flagrantly anti-police and anti-military. Especially take a look at "-UCSC students successfully kick military recruiters off campus using direct action. See pictures part 1 and 2." Yeah, real peaceful, right? Charging into a designated area for military VOLUNTEER recruitment and forcibly kicking them out?
They have their bias and you have yours, whats the difference..you're not a know it all Ex, get over yourself.
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That's too bad. Not sure tenting out was the way to go, but atleast the students were trying to send out a message about something that is important.
Anyone attending a UC right now knows that tuition is getting ridiculously out of hand. Scholarships are scarce, and if you're out of state you're basically shit out of luck. UC schools actually cost as much or more than private schools if you're from out of state now.
Basically, you're fucked unless your parents are pulling in 120k+ or you came straight out of the projects. Anyone inbetween is facing 20-35k tuition a year without much hope of scholarship support. Yeah community colleges are, and will always be dirt cheap. But if you have the ability you shouldn't have to be relegated to schools that will limit your future because your parents are average Americans.
Still though, anyone badmouthing these people for being hippies and for "just being in a sleeper pinch" are really out of line. They're just kids, and being grabbed by the neck by men in full riot gear in the middle of the night is not a comfortable situation.
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On April 30 2005 11:53 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Eniram, he was still trying to resist even when he was on the ground, attempting to push his way back up onto his feet.
Wow big threat, he was trying to stand up.
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On April 30 2005 18:22 Eniram wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2005 11:53 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Eniram, he was still trying to resist even when he was on the ground, attempting to push his way back up onto his feet. Wow big threat, he was trying to stand up.
You know what I mean. There's a difference between pushing yourself up by force (showing intent to fight) and standing up.
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If you have seen the video you wouldn't be arguing against this. The guy is huge... it's hard to explain, but you have to watch it. I'm not saying what the cops did was great, but it isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be.
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damn hippies
bash their brains in a few that'll learn em
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fuck democracy, beat some sense to those whiny hippies!
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i mean what has these assholes hippies contributed to this world? nothing.
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On April 30 2005 18:54 suffeli wrote:
fuck democracy, beat some sense to those whiny hippies!
Yeah, what has democracy and the exercise of free speech done for anyone, ever.
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rofl at hippys chanting "student power" while they're getting KOed 1 by 1 with sleeper pinches lol
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yeah, those weaklings don't stand a chance when the shit hits the fan. thats what i'm talking about!!
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I am surprised how many people on here are taking the side of people applying choke-holds over people peacefully demonstrating for affordable education.
Sure, what the police did was legal, but that's true of pretty much any police breaking up any protest over the course of history, and I would imagine that even the most hardcore authoritarians (Excal) would have to agree that some of those protests were just and led to a betterment of the human condition.
Also, if your argument FOR the actions of the police in any way rests on the fact that the people getting choked were annoying, whiny, hippies, etc., then you lose immediately. Go directly to jail, do NOT collect $200. If police are allowed to use arguments like that while doing their job, we all lose.
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On April 30 2005 19:13 L!MP wrote:
rofl at hippys chanting "student power" while they're getting KOed 1 by 1 with sleeper pinches lol
For some reason you made me laugh haha...
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