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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 02 2011 13:56 GMT
#5
/in
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 07 2011 15:56 GMT
#115
On September 07 2011 13:25 iGrok wrote:
Lets do this


With a smurf in the game, I have nothing to base your actions off of. I want you to contribute a lot, so that I can get a good read off of you.

Until then, you make me uncomfortable.

##Vote Bayonet Anderson


Yo iGrok, if you are going to start a RVS why do you go out of your way to make it neat and make it seem justifiable? You ought to know that's no valid reason to vote, why make it seem so?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 07 2011 23:04 GMT
#136
Sup I don't think GGQ is scum. Suspcious people to me so far are iGrok and xfttfc whose behaviour day1 is 100% different than mafia xliv. xftc is being too absurdly confindent about his reads and even basing an entire scum team out of them when the game was only one page long (LOL). The whole notion is so ridiculous that to me it seems he is over compensating for his behaviour in the last game where he was townie and was found scummy by a lot of others. Makes no sense for a townie to throw acusations into 4 players this early with so little info, but it makes a lot of sense for scum to try to create this sort of confusion. I'd like you gather your thoughts and post in a more coherent manner until I decide if you are scum or not.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 07 2011 23:05 GMT
#137
edit: I'd like you to...
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 07 2011 23:10 GMT
#138
Also let's get to posting people, more than half the players in this game are completely inactive. Unfortunatelly we have no info on the setup, so I don't think discussion on roles will take us anywhere as of now. Let me just say that if I think you are good and you start making ridiculous acusations and being unreasonable you will not be excused =P
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 08 2011 01:45 GMT
#146
On September 08 2011 09:47 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 08:04 sandroba wrote:
Sup I don't think GGQ is scum. Suspcious people to me so far are iGrok and xfttfc whose behaviour day1 is 100% different than mafia xliv. xftc is being too absurdly confindent about his reads and even basing an entire scum team out of them when the game was only one page long (LOL). The whole notion is so ridiculous that to me it seems he is over compensating for his behaviour in the last game where he was townie and was found scummy by a lot of others. Makes no sense for a townie to throw acusations into 4 players this early with so little info, but it makes a lot of sense for scum to try to create this sort of confusion. I'd like you gather your thoughts and post in a more coherent manner until I decide if you are scum or not.

You said you were suspicious of me and then gave no reasons. Do you have any?

You pretty much started the shit fest day1 with your arbitrary vote and then tryed to make it seem it had some thought behind it, when it was clearly a random vote. Your response seem to be trying too hard to justify it, instead of just admiting it was shitty reasoning and you were only trying to get discussion going. In sumary your first post didn't sit well with me and your response did not help either.
I'd actually like your opinion on someone that has posted in this thread.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 08 2011 02:52 GMT
#155
On September 08 2011 11:20 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 10:45 sandroba wrote:
On September 08 2011 09:47 iGrok wrote:
On September 08 2011 08:04 sandroba wrote:
Sup I don't think GGQ is scum. Suspcious people to me so far are iGrok and xfttfc whose behaviour day1 is 100% different than mafia xliv. xftc is being too absurdly confindent about his reads and even basing an entire scum team out of them when the game was only one page long (LOL). The whole notion is so ridiculous that to me it seems he is over compensating for his behaviour in the last game where he was townie and was found scummy by a lot of others. Makes no sense for a townie to throw acusations into 4 players this early with so little info, but it makes a lot of sense for scum to try to create this sort of confusion. I'd like you gather your thoughts and post in a more coherent manner until I decide if you are scum or not.

You said you were suspicious of me and then gave no reasons. Do you have any?

You pretty much started the shit fest day1 with your arbitrary vote and then tryed to make it seem it had some thought behind it, when it was clearly a random vote. Your response seem to be trying too hard to justify it, instead of just admiting it was shitty reasoning and you were only trying to get discussion going. In sumary your first post didn't sit well with me and your response did not help either.
I'd actually like your opinion on someone that has posted in this thread.


First of all, I didn't "start the shit fest day1".

The shitfest had been going on since Curu voted Palmer pre-game. But that specific shitfest started with WBG's Random Vote.

Second of all


Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 02:59 iGrok wrote:
On September 08 2011 00:56 sandroba wrote:
On September 07 2011 13:25 iGrok wrote:
Lets do this


With a smurf in the game, I have nothing to base your actions off of. I want you to contribute a lot, so that I can get a good read off of you.

Until then, you make me uncomfortable.

##Vote Bayonet Anderson


Yo iGrok, if you are going to start a RVS why do you go out of your way to make it neat and make it seem justifiable? You ought to know that's no valid reason to vote, why make it seem so?

I consider that a valid reason to vote. With no setup knowledge other than my own role, I'm a little on edge anyways.

This is trying hard to justify it?

Look, if you want to tunnel someone, that's fine. Just pick someone else to fight with.

Man iGrok, why so dodgy? Is it wrong of me to interrogate you to try to determine your aligment? You sure don't like the heat do you?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 08 2011 22:04 GMT
#212
Alright TAA is the best lynch. No bullshit allowed here sir.
##Vote: TheAwesomeAll
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 08 2011 22:05 GMT
#213
Wow iGrok actually agrees with me. I wonder what that means.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 11 2011 07:17 GMT
#447
Yo guys, sorry for the long absence. I'm going to post tomorrow when I'm sober.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 11 2011 17:52 GMT
#478
Hey I'm actually not scum, I've just not been around home much for 2 days and thus had not the time to read the thread until now. Plenty of people are calling me scum and I think that's reasonable as I'm usually not this inactive as town. However the rest of the case against me is not true at all. I pressured iGrok day1 and then decided he was unlikely to be scum and thus not voted for him. TAA was making no sense at all in his posts and I could see no townie motivations for posting like that, so that's why I voted him.

##vote: xfttfc

I'm feeling like shit right now because I'm extremelly hung over. You guys should actually be looking at whoever failed to call me scum or did so in an unsure fashion. Maybe I was wrong about GGQ being town day1, because now that the pressure is not on him he is not posting anymore. And yeah zona and bayonet are prob town.
Don't lynch me today, I'll flip town. And I will do a lot of work the next day if left alive (by both mafia and town lol), I promisse. Today my head fucking hurts too much and reading this has been a pain.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 11 2011 18:49 GMT
#483
On September 12 2011 03:14 Curu wrote:
Why xt? What do you make of sinani, who hasn't done anything, or Jackal, who offers nothing but quick jumps onto other people's wagons and didn't even mention you?

I don't know what to make of sinani, I always think he is scummy despite alignment. I'm leaning towards scum here, but I've been wrong about him before.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 11 2011 21:20 GMT
#503
Bros, I really think we should lynch into TAA vote list day1, since there ought to be scum there I'm pretty sure at least 2 if not more. I really can't tell witch side of palmar/jackal and wbg/mig is more likely to be scum, but I feel pretty good about lynching xfttfc.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 12 2011 02:40 GMT
#554
Jackal does look rather irrational this game. Do you really think zona is lying in her claim? You realize a medic claiming and saying he did not protect her would totally fuck her over and she was in no danger of being lynched prior to claiming all that. I don't see a mafia doing that out of the blue at all. I can't say I agree with the vig claim, but I find it unlikely she is actually mafia.
To be quite honest with you I simply don't see bum rolling mafia so many times in a row lol and your case about rolefishing doesn't make much sense to me. I can certanly see townie reasons for posting that which I won't go into detail, but as mafia I don't think he would be so blatant and attention grabbing in his comment about roles. That first comment did the exact oposite of what mafia normally tries to do, which is avoid attention.
Sinani I'm quite undecided on, because he refuses to help, yet his lynch isn't exactly being fought over. I guess lynching him is better than lynching no one because there is indeed a decent chance he is mafia.
##Unvote
##Vote:Sinani

I'd much rather lynch jackal if you guys are willing to change to him. He is doing his trade mark intentionally obtuse mafia meta.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 12 2011 02:45 GMT
#555
@Palmar are you going to cling onto kp speculation as a reson to lynch a bro? I don't think mafia would be so dumb to ask about missing kp right after the day post. They would certainly realize how suspicious that would look and the whole point of being mafia is to avoid suspicion. And considering how much effort wbg seems to be making in this game I would definitely not like to see him lynched for such petty reasoning.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 12 2011 03:19 GMT
#565
Xt lynch is not going to happen and since his last post I'm not so sure on him anymore.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 13 2011 03:11 GMT
#645
If I live today I promisse to produce a shitton of info tomorrow. I used up all my free time on LoL today and now I'm heading to bed.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 13 2011 16:18 GMT
#699
I'm towny. Okay this claim possibly means 3 things:
1) Palmar is scum and Bum town. Makes some sense.
2) Bum is scum and Palmar is town. The odds of mafia framing wbg the night they shot him are simply ridiculous. That means Palmar is insane if really a DT. Palmar has to know this and if he was town he would be pushing for bum like a crazy man today, not suddenly deciding to go after me after he said yesterday he believed me. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Palmar just has no reason to assume bum got framed night one. Also not knowing about his sanity in the first place he would not be yelling bum is town before he confirmed it.
3) Both are scum. This makes the most sense, because palmar is not going after bum, which would make his story the most believable.
4)Both are town. For this to happen Bum needs to have been framed night one and palmar has to be behaving like an idiot as a DT. He keeps yelling Bum is town for no reason and somehow mafia doesn't pick up on this and shoot him. Not likely at all.

Also I believe there is no roleblocker in this game. We have no claims so far and if you argue they have been shooting plus roleblocking people WBG was the rational roleblock for this night and we know his action went through. So no roleblockers for mafia and we have 2 vigs and a medic claims so far. They have no means to prevent a power role from claiming but if the medic wants to protect the power role he has to roleblock him and he can't do it 2 night in a row which is a clever little mechanic by Ace. But scum doesn't know this at first and leaving scum unable to counter a DT claim is not something Ace would do imo.

I'll post my thought on everybody soon, aswell as huge analysis of both previous days.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 13 2011 16:37 GMT
#701
WBG GOT FRAMED AND SHOT??? Who the hell would do that, am I the one not using logic? And to answer your next question, because you don't know your sanity yet. One of the following things should happen if you were DT: either your role states that you might be insane/sane/paranoid/naive or you ask Ace if that's a possibility since basically all games ace has hosted with dts it functions that way. Your claim is just convinient as shit.

1) Say you are suspicious of wbg for no reason on the previous day so it justifies your check today.
2) Conviniently WBG gets shot. Claim that lul wbg might have been framed and shot.
3) ????
4) Profit.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 13 2011 16:40 GMT
#702
On September 14 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 01:18 sandroba wrote:
I'm towny. Okay this claim possibly means 3 things:
1) Palmar is scum and Bum town. Makes some sense.
2) Bum is scum and Palmar is town. The odds of mafia framing wbg the night they shot him are simply ridiculous. That means Palmar is insane if really a DT. Palmar has to know this and if he was town he would be pushing for bum like a crazy man today, not suddenly deciding to go after me after he said yesterday he believed me. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Palmar just has no reason to assume bum got framed night one. Also not knowing about his sanity in the first place he would not be yelling bum is town before he confirmed it.
3) Both are scum. This makes the most sense, because palmar is not going after bum, which would make his story the most believable.
4)Both are town. For this to happen Bum needs to have been framed night one and palmar has to be behaving like an idiot as a DT. He keeps yelling Bum is town for no reason and somehow mafia doesn't pick up on this and shoot him. Not likely at all.


your point no 4 is just plain wrong. you guys didn't shoot me because people suspect me.

For 4 to happen Bum doesn't need to have been framed, all it takes is wbg being framed on day 2, and me actually being sane, that's the explanation I'd go with.

But thanks, now you've just confirmed you're not using logic this game, you're scum.

And why would I not defend a person who I have an innocent check on, it's only after I got the false check on wbg that I started doubting my sanity or the possibility of framers.

That's because you are scum.
##Vote: Palmar

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