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No sense in posting responding to every and each single post of this thread, collect your thoughts and post them all toghether neatly. @redFF why do you think ON is town? He has a 2 posts that don't say much. It's funny you say that because him and bum are on the top of my watch list right now. | ||
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On September 01 2011 12:46 Ace wrote: Everyone is trying to look pro-town. It prevents you from getting thought of as lynch bait. I'm not refuting the possibility of scummy behavior. I'm pointing out that something as inane as "he's trying to look pro-town" isn't going to help us find Scum. Town sided players also tend to look pro-town at times too you know? This is what I'm refering to. If a guy is being useless and making blend in posts when there is actually something else to talk about, that is indeed suspicious. But whatever varpulis posted 1 hour into the game to try to get discussion going when there was nothing to talk about says nothing about his aligment. I'll much rather not waste a day discussing him right now. What do you guys say about the 3 top suspects idea. I'd like to see comments on that. Also bum your easy vote on varpulis was lol. Care to give me your reasoning behind your vote? | ||
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Does the vote roleblocking mechanic goes into effect for the current day or the next? | ||
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Palmar what is your reasoning on varpulis? Care to point out why he is scummy, I only see people pushing this wagon nitpicking on every single post he makes. Show me some actual evidence. I tried doing a little reaserch on jcarl and couldn't find a single game he is scum. Care to point me to one if it actually exists JC? The reason I went through all this trouble is because in his previous post, despite not seeing any point to my sugestion, he still behaves nicely and obliges. From what I've read from the previous games he played as town his ideas regarding what is scummy and regarding lurkers are pretty much the same, but I'd like to see a game he played as scum to draw further conclusions. | ||
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I need an answer on some questions about mechanic first, to then come up with something, but bum's idea on reviving one of the lynches and checking him day 1 is not terrible. I'll much rather use it in someone important like Ace (who is posting random derp now) though. For now I'm leaning on killing ON and kill/revive Ace. Can a priest/coroner target someone who is not yet dead? Which order do the actions go through regarding priests/coroners/mafia? | ||
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Vote: Bumatlarge | ||
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On September 03 2011 02:28 bumatlarge wrote: I don't think it smells like that at all. I voted varpulis, same time as redff, then a bunch of people jumped on it, including you, with very little reason. In fact you have very little reason voting me here as well, which is extraordinarily unlike the palmar I know. This has to be the most passive thing I have ever seen you done. If you vote me for reason, you don't go ahead and do the exact same thing yourself. See bolded sentence. And sandroba is just as bad, sayng I haven't been pro-town, when he clearly has not read through my unlynchable idea by thinking the coroner uses his power by day. That's why we discuss and figure everything out now day 1, where there is little to derail, because day 1 conversations are hard to move. I feel this game should garner the same discussion a PYP game would. The High Priest should use his power everyday I'll explain why. But first we need to ask more green questions I think. There is a lot of stuff we could miss just by ignorance. iGrok, when two revivers (priest or necro) target the same person, is there a precedence given? Also, can you add all questions answered to the last of the OP posts? If it's not too much trouble.  I'm fairly certain it will revive according to when the PM is sent, but it will have to be confirmed. IF A HIGH PRIEST CAN RESURRECT A PERSON RATHER THEN THEM BEING A ZOMBIE THEN THAT IS GOOD. Denying zombies will be a key job for the high priest, as a necromancer will not just revive dead teammates but also any townies he can whenever he can. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. Day 1 is where the chances are higher to do this, 50%. I'll gladly take criticism or argue the point. Day1 is usually a mislynch and a double lynch on day 1 is unlikely to be successful. We will undoubtedly lynch a townie, you can't argue that. So resurrect the one you think is town as fast as you can, and hopefully you stop the zombification. Even if they target different people, the zombie does a have a time limit and the resurrected person does not. Most likely mafia will revive the less pro-town of the two, and high priest the more pro-town. Ok now you can yell at me for speculating. There is a lot of WIFOM in this topic as to who would revive who, so please refrain from using that as a counter-point. Also Ace please post  I know you figured some stuff out too, probably more then I did.Day 1 High priest/Necro can't target anyone because there is no one dead to be a possible target. Day 2 they High priest will target one of the 2 night kills if they have half a brain, because those are unlikely mafia. If mafia shoots mafia they are dumb because you can't guarantee high priest will target the correct one nor that he is alive by day 3 to res said mafia, so nks are 99% town and those are the ones that should be res'ed 100% of the time. The problem I see with that is the timing thing which is dumb. Both Mafia and High priest will have to spam F5 to see when daypost goes through to have a higher chance of getting the res. Mafia will have an advantage here because they will now the kills before (to try to deny the High Priest a res) AND they can choose to target one of the lynches and have a 100% chance of getting a zombie. I don't see how we can avoid the need of F5 spamming before the day post, so if you are high priest, please make the effort to send your res as early as humanly possible. That said unlynchable claiming and getting confirmed by lynch is terrible. Here is what will happen. Mafia will kill him at night and try to res him as a zombie to deny the high priest which will obiously target him. That makes it at best 50/50 and we won't know what he actually is, so we will have to keep him alive possibly contributing to mafia kp. It also gives us absolutely nothing in the sense of finding scum. It also helps a possible minion to narrow down their targets. Let me repeat unlynchable should absolutely never claim, even if up for a lynch, since mafia has to send their kills before hand and that ensures he will survive the next day and thus be confirmed. The optimal way is to try to lynch the zombie plus one person per day to not let mafia kp go up and res one of the nks every day to further reduce mafia kp. That is all. | ||
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1) LOL, why is he scum in the first place? 2) When he was scum with me in kurumi's game, he had a much harder time posting anything meaninful and was much less genuine in his posts. He came across as very scummy and wishy washy which is not the case this game. 3) He is actually making an effort at finding scum and defending himself. There are much better targets than him for a day1 lynch. Here are some: Bum: Has only posted about mechanics and nothing abusable in a pro-town way, so the content is actually nil. First to jump on the easy varpulis bandwagon then criticises others who did the same. Then votes kenpachi, which is the safest vote you can imagine. If you can actually tell wether kenpachi is town or mafia at this point I bow to you sir. In my opinion kenpachi is being more pro town this game than most games he plays in. ON: See wbg case. Also votes kenpachi, which is terrible for a vet that knows how he plays. Sknowman and Drazerk: Completely useless. They are fine day1 lynches aswell. | ||
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You have played numerous games and started way before I did, so to me you are a vet. Also wether or not you are a vet doesn't make any difference. You know kenpachi and I know you can't tell if he is mafia or not yet. Your vote on him is a throw away vote with little chance for sucess. | ||
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We have to consolidate the votes now, so mafia can't lynch whoever they want. | ||
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