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confirmed. Dayvigs even if your shot isn't up for debate or negotiable, still claim your shot before you use it, give the player getting shot a chance to say his last words, give suspicions etc... As always hatters probably shouldn't plac their bombs n1 unless they have near confirmed scum. the last thing we need is a hatter dying and bringing 2 townies with him. | ||
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and Varpulis doesnt speak for me.. | ||
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On August 02 2011 07:32 Drazerk wrote: Also I agree with Sand's plan. The sooner we have confirmed town players the better. The sooner we have random dead townies the better too i guess? Dayvig if you are going to shoot call your shot and let town discuss. | ||
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There, that's my opinion if you think it's scummy then vote me. Draz post what was scummy in the irc chat please. | ||
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On August 02 2011 08:51 Curu wrote: Huh? I don't understand your post. The confirmed Townie tells the player who he is going to shoot or protect, he doesn't tell all Medics what every Medic is doing. Since we know how much KP Mafia has I very much doubt any of them are going to be able to claim Vig. So you want one townie conducting every single vig hit/medic protect/hatter bomb? k here's an example. Mafia-I will be protecting player x Confirmed townie-no someone else is protecting him. now mafia know's to not hit player x. I would be more open to this plan day 2 or 3. But all i see is 2 townies getting lynched and losing a dayvig and that person most likely dying the next night. | ||
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On August 02 2011 09:00 Curu wrote: No, it goes like this: Mafia-I will be protecting player x Confirmed townie-stfu I choose who you protect, you'll be protecting player y Mafia-Okay... I'm not comfortable with having 1 townie direct all of the blue actions. What if the townie is wrong about things/terrible? then we are screwed... | ||
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[7:30pm] Lucidity: does dochelvetica ever use punctuation? [7:31pm] Lucidity: I find myself out of breath reading his posts [7:39pm] alanismorisette: ... [7:39pm] alanismorisette: lol [7:42pm] Curu joined the chat room. [7:42pm] Curu: redFF made no jokes at the start of PTP [7:42pm] Curu: and he was Town [7:42pm] Curu: COINCIDENCE? [7:43pm] alanismorisette: ... [7:43pm] alanismorisette: didnt i make jokes? [7:43pm] alanismorisette: i did [7:44pm] alanismorisette: give me the wand imo [7:44pm] alanismorisette: that was one [7:44pm] alanismorisette: and i kept tlpdizing everything [7:44pm] alanismorisette: thats why lanaia [7:44pm] mig__: great jokes [7:45pm] mig__: red are you actually trying to defend yourself on whether you made jokes or not? [7:45pm] Drazerk: Red is so scummy >.< [7:45pm] alanismorisette: ... [7:45pm] alanismorisette: how [7:46pm] alanismorisette: is ptp over yet? [7:46pm] Drazerk: not yet [7:46pm] mig__: its weird that you seem to be actually trying to defend yourself when people are clearly fucking around with you [7:46pm] mig__: concerning the jokes [7:46pm] Drazerk: also the fact that your opposing sand's plan [7:47pm] Lucidity: opposing with no reasons [7:47pm] Lucidity: opposing is fine tbh [7:49pm] alanismorisette: well [7:49pm] alanismorisette: im not opposing [7:49pm] alanismorisette: im just saying that vigs shooting day 1 [7:49pm] alanismorisette: is not necessarily amazing [7:49pm] alanismorisette: u gain a confirmed town [7:49pm] alanismorisette: but u may lose a town too [7:49pm] Drazerk: not if we are doing it how sand proposes [7:50pm] Drazerk: in that case it would just be the same as lynching a townie which is much worse [7:50pm] alanismorisette: yeah [7:50pm] alanismorisette: i guess [7:50pm] Curu: you also had no problem shooting on like page 1 of your other game as day vig  [7:50pm] alanismorisette: i dunno if today is the day i wanna double lynch [7:50pm] alanismorisette: but that time i shot the gf [7:50pm] alanismorisette: he was obv [7:51pm] alanismorisette: its different when there arent obvscum [7:51pm] Curu: this time we might too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [7:51pm] Curu: didnt you shoot him cause he made some pump up town post [7:54pm] alanismorisette: well [7:54pm] alanismorisette: kita random voted [7:54pm] alanismorisette: and he was like [7:54pm] alanismorisette: you shouldn;t do it this early in the game, town has lost games recently and we need to pull ourselves together. etcetc [7:55pm] alanismorisette: then he made another post [7:55pm] alanismorisette: telling everyone to read his vigi guide [7:55pm] alanismorisette: and then he made another post attacking someone for a joke [7:55pm] alanismorisette: plus there was one guy defending him who looked scummy too(and was the rb) [7:55pm] alanismorisette: so i shot him [7:55pm] alanismorisette: hey draz [7:56pm] alanismorisette: reasonless votes not good [7:56pm] alanismorisette: post the irc chat [7:56pm] alanismorisette: s [7:56pm] alanismorisette: so people can see ur reasoning [7:56pm] alanismorisette: Drazerk: [7:56pm] Drazerk: want me to copy the IRC for you then? [7:56pm] Drazerk: I will do it lol [7:57pm] alanismorisette: yeah [7:57pm] alanismorisette: please [7:57pm] alanismorisette: if you're gonna vote [7:57pm] Rinku left the chat room. (Ping timeout) [7:57pm] alanismorisette: show people the evidnece [7:57pm] alanismorisette: also [7:57pm] alanismorisette: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971¤tpage=8#147 [7:57pm] alanismorisette: that is why this plan on day 1 double lynch is terrible [7:57pm] Drazerk: I am not jumping on a bandwagon [7:57pm] alanismorisette: the day when we are most likely to lynch town is when we should double lynch! [7:57pm] alanismorisette: yay! [7:58pm] Drazerk: we have actually got a decent track record day 1 at the moment [7:58pm] Drazerk: when we kill you [7:58pm] Drazerk: we will have a even better one [7:59pm] alanismorisette: Drazerk: pleaes tell me why im scum [7:59pm] alanismorisette: please [7:59pm] alanismorisette: just make one post [7:59pm] alanismorisette: on the thread [7:59pm] alanismorisette: outlining why i am scum [7:59pm] sandroba left the chat room. (Ping timeout) [7:59pm] alanismorisette: you have no reasons apart from opposing a flawed plan with perfectly reasonable reasons [8:00pm] alanismorisette: and from me pointing out that it is in my meta to joke day 1 [8:02pm] alanismorisette: Drazerk: [8:02pm] alanismorisette: why am i scum [8:03pm] Drazerk: wishy washy play - Hating a very good town plan when "Oh noes we may accidencently kill a scummy town player" and the whole fact you are defending yourself this hard over a joke and a pressure vote [8:04pm] alanismorisette: ..... [8:04pm] alanismorisette: k [8:05pm] alanismorisette: it is not a "very good town plan" [8:05pm] alanismorisette: it wasnt defending myself hard over a joke [8:05pm] Drazerk: II'd rather kill a useless towny than lynch a useless towny [8:05pm] alanismorisette: curu made a statement and i responded [8:05pm] alanismorisette: now ur saying im a useless townie? [8:06pm] alanismorisette: chill with the insults and twisting my words dude [8:06pm] Curu: what [8:06pm] Curu: i never asid you were useless townie [8:06pm] alanismorisette: no [8:06pm] alanismorisette: drazerk is [8:06pm] Curu: oh [8:06pm] Drazerk: I never said you was a useless townie - I was refering to the plan [8:06pm] Drazerk: Your a very bad scum membet [8:06pm] Drazerk: member* [8:07pm] alanismorisette: drazerk [8:07pm] alanismorisette: i've played like 10x more games then you [8:07pm] alanismorisette: stop calling me bad [8:07pm] alanismorisette: also [8:07pm] alanismorisette: the plan is bad [8:07pm] alanismorisette: because [8:08pm] alanismorisette: we will most likely lynch 2 townies and then mafia will double stack the dayvig tonight [8:08pm] alanismorisette: how is that a good plan? | ||
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Why would we want to enforce a double lynch and use a dayvig shot day 1, when we can use it later game when we have a far higher chance of hitting mafia. All this plan will most likely do is kill 3 townies and lose us a dayvig shot which can be far more useful later on. Idk what the fuck is going on when its a good idea to double lynch day 1. It seems to be the proponents of this plan are just like LETS KILL TOWNIES FASTER!!!!1111ONEONE!!! If anything it's scummy to defend this plan and then just call whoever is against it scum with zero reasoning. We lynch today, vigs for the most part should hold their shots, and we win this game by scumhunting, not by some kooky plan Sandroba made up in 5 minutes. Pros 1. get a confirmed townie 2. Every blue claims to this townie?? Cons 1. Double lynch on the day when we are most likely to lynch town. 2. Mafia can infiltrate pm circle 3. One townie directing all blue actions 4. Confirmed townie will most likely be shot 5. We lose a dayvig shot early when it can be put into far better use later on in the game. Someone please put forward a convincing argument as to why this plan is good aside from pulling a Drazerk and going "lolscum" | ||
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On August 02 2011 16:26 youngminii wrote: fairly certain redff is scum he's playing exactly like that other game where i was scum with him i'm sorry red but your scum play is so obvious On August 02 2011 19:35 Lucidity wrote: Haha, I guess I was still in the Asylum mindset with mass blue everywhere - somehow thought that all 7 blue roles listed would be in the game. ~4 blues make sense and we're very unlikely to have 2 medics in that, so a plan to coordinate them this early isn't actually that great. I think the only time that we should be claiming is if Mafia only have 1 KP left or if a Day Vig hits a Vet, leaving us with 2 confirmed townies. One of them will survive the night and be able to pass on info~ redFF, forever RED? to shitty fos's with absolutely no reasoning. This is funny... | ||
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Anyways, this discussion is quickly devolving into spam/insults. The plan has been shown to be flawed and I think at this stage it is out of the question for now. Also Varpulis-role fish much? Dayvigs don't claim lol. If you are a dayvig you have to think, do I use my shot now and probably hit a townie and then die? Or do i wait and kill a mafia with a BOSS DAYKILL later in the game? I'm still waiting on both YM, Drazerk and Lucidity to tell me why I am scum. | ||
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On August 02 2011 08:11 Lucidity wrote: So we've already found 2 scum in redFF and DoctorHelvetica who are opposing the plan without any real reasons? Good stuff. A confirmed townie coordinating blues is brilliant. The only problem I can see is if scum impersonates medics. That could give away blue roles/leave our soldier vulnerable. Solution? Just have all medics protect the soldier for night 1. 1 Night of coordinated abilities is quite powerful and we'll have more info on Day 2. Apparently because people opposed a plan which has very real and obvious faults and holes makes someone scum... Although at this stage he could be just a dumb/inexperienced player not thinking. But calling me and DrH scum because we disagree with the plan is pretty funny. On August 02 2011 09:01 Lucidity wrote: How will he figure out who the other vig shots are aimed at? How will a fake medic find out who the other medics are protecting? Who said the plan is faultless? I think I'll take your advice and vote for you! ##vote redFF If there isn't a great candidate for day vig I agree with heist's Day 2 proposal. We don't really want to use our vigi's and hatters on Night 1 anyway, do we? Confirmed townie might be more effective on Day 2. The only problem is the risk of losing him on Night 1... So he see's a vote for me and thinks he can start an easy bandwagon on someone because at that stage in the game the plan had a lot of support. My point was a scum could be like-protecting this guy and if the confirmed townie said don't the scum could infer that that guy already had medic protection. We've already established the plan has major flaws esp on day 1 so i won't go back into that. The vote though doesn't really have any reasoning apart from attacking the plan, the points i was making were valid imo. Also he didn't actually vote for me in the thread, which I find pretty funny. That just seems like mafia trying to kick off a bandwagon and the turning around and looking at the votes and calling people scummy when i flip town... On August 03 2011 05:20 Lucidity wrote: If it's such a waste of time why are you dedicating any time at all to it anymore? I don't think there has been serious majority support for the plan for long now, so there's no reason for you to talk about it. Every Day 1 has to start in some useless way before there's something to discuss. Why not use the posts that have been generated by this plan to start some discussion which you think might be useful? Ok then don't ask other people to do it just do it. This post is complete shit, all it does is ask other people to contribute when he hasn't even contributed himself. ##Vote Lucidity | ||
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Are all possible roles listed in the op? | ||
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On August 03 2011 06:13 Lucidity wrote: I wasn't saying you're scummy for opposing the plan. Your reasons provided were horrible, which I found suspicious. This isn't worth thread space as it's quite obvious, but if you're interested read the spoiler. Oppose with troll. You seemed to do this in AA also. I joke in most games lol am i scum for joking? you and drazerk must have been doing some taking :O Horrible. How would they ever figure this out? By saying they are protecting one person and the confirmed vig telling them not to... The plan doesn't involve a "confirmed townie". It would be a real confirmed townie. No one ever said the plan was faultless. In the other game the player was a confirmed townie but mafia fakeclaimed to him and he believed them and ended up losing town the game. This would never happen. Terrible reason. If i was a blue role i would not have a random confirmed townie tell me what to do i would do what i think is correct. Also same point you made about the post above this one, try harder please. The pro is coordination and a voice for blues. Avoiding possible death before he uses his shot. 2. There wouldn't be any PM circle. 3. If the townie is super bad it would be bad, but we'd still have the benefit of coordination. 4. Confirmed townie will be shot whether we use the plan or not. 2.Yes there would this whole plan proposes a pm circle surrounding this confirmed townie. 3. Exactly, blues should do what they think is correct, not follow the advice of this random dayvig who actually followed through with this retarded plan. 4. If we don't use this plan we won't have a confirmed townie because the dayvig won't have shot.. The only decent points you raised seemed to be parroting others. Anyway, now you're defending your horrible reasoning again? Your points weren't valid for the most part, except for those that you adopted from others... There's no shame in making mistakes, but trying to defend bad posts' reasoning so that you seem "clean" indicates that you're scared to be wrong. You seemed overly anxious to defend any accusations thrown your way, which is similar to what I experienced as your scum partner in AA. And lol, you're right I forgot to vote for you in the voting thread. I actually find Varp the best scum candidate at the moment after that post I highlighted earlier. But don't worry, I'll vote for you first so that the voting record shows it "when you flip town" (hahaha?) As for the last quote, you might have noticed that I was talking to others who were perma complaining about the plan being a waste of time. I never said the discussion was a waste of time. How is it complete shit? Terrible man ;p My response in bold. In this post you didn't even say why im scum, and you still haven't provided good reasoning. And yes this post On August 03 2011 05:20 Lucidity wrote: If it's such a waste of time why are you dedicating any time at all to it anymore? I don't think there has been serious majority support for the plan for long now, so there's no reason for you to talk about it. Every Day 1 has to start in some useless way before there's something to discuss. Why not use the posts that have been generated by this plan to start some discussion which you think might be useful? is fucking terrible. You keep bringing up the plan but then you say stop talking about and make a call for pro-town discussion and analysis, but don't actually do any yourself. that's a fucking typical easy scum post. | ||
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On August 03 2011 07:14 OriginalName wrote: BIG IRC LOG POST INCOMING + Show Spoiler + [16:49] <@Kurumi> ok ok [16:49] <youngminii> not that anyone cares [16:49] <@Kurumi> hm [16:49] <CUru> hey munk e [16:49] <@Kurumi> dropbear would care [16:49] <@Kurumi> but he isn't playing [16:49] <CUru> who do you think is scummy? [16:49] <Munk-E> Mainly mig [16:49] <Munk-E> but i'm also analysing varp [16:49] <Munk-E> and lucidity [16:49] <youngminii> oh look syllogism told mig that we're talking about him and now mig is here [16:50] <Lucidity> lol [16:50] <youngminii> /talkingoutofmyass [16:50] <Munk-E> Oh snap when did he get here? [16:50] <mig__> just got here I was just in irc until I had to disc like 15 min ago lol [16:50] <mig__> maybe longer [16:50] <OriginalName> it was like [16:50] <OriginalName> an hour ago [16:50] <OriginalName> when you dced [16:50] <mig__> k [16:52] <CUru> ym why would you want to lynch mig day 1? [16:52] <CUru> he has a ridic track record of finding scum [16:52] <DoctorHelvetica> i agree with curu [16:52] <youngminii> oh that's fair enough reason to not lynch him actually [16:52] <DoctorHelvetica> wait on mig [16:52] <youngminii> yeah [16:52] <CUru> scum would be much more afraid of him than town [16:52] <syllogism> mig was mean to him so he started tunnelling the most active player in a game where the thread is pretty dead, standard [16:52] <youngminii> ok unvoting [16:52] <CUru> if hes scum then we can tell when he doesnt find any scum [16:53] <youngminii> splendid work syllogism, as usual [16:53] <syllogism> it's true [16:53] <OriginalName> So [16:53] <OriginalName> are we down to Varpu/Lucidity [16:53] <OriginalName> for likely suspects? [16:53] <youngminii> what, the fact that your backseat sheeping is splendid? [16:53] <syllogism> what am I sheeping [16:53] <OriginalName> On Mig [16:54] <syllogism> on what [16:54] <OriginalName> when he could theoretically be perfectly wrong [16:54] <OriginalName> and your just not doing any of your own thinking [16:54] <youngminii> on literally everything he has done this game [16:54] <OriginalName> on his lynches [16:54] <OriginalName> Syllogism [16:54] <youngminii> i'm not even kidding, you're just following his every single thought [16:54] <OriginalName> you are not mig [16:54] <syllogism> i've been talking to him and a few others all game on skype [16:54] <OriginalName> think for yourself [16:54] <youngminii> you mean on quicktopic? [16:54] <syllogism> you apparently dont know me very well [16:54] <syllogism> if you think i dont think for myself [16:54] <OriginalName> but you havent shown that yet [16:54] <OriginalName> at all [16:54] <OriginalName> ._. [16:54] <syllogism> in thread yes [16:55] <OriginalName> THEN SHOW IT IN THE GOD DAMNDED THREAD [16:55] <OriginalName> THATS WHERE IT MATTERS [16:55] <youngminii> you haven't shown it in irc either [16:55] <OriginalName> I dont give a fuck about your private behind closed doors shit [16:55] <syllogism> it's a channel with 15 people [16:55] <OriginalName> i want to see it [16:55] <syllogism> not exactly ideal [16:55] <youngminii> so you're showing it in your PMs to mig [16:55] <@Kurumi> I like turtles [16:55] <OriginalName> Because afaik your just sheeping [16:55] <syllogism> what am I sheeping, you still havent said [16:55] <OriginalName> Kurumi are you trying to troll me cause of WaW2? [16:55] <Lucidity> how is it more ideal to show to 1 person syllogism? [16:55] <Lucidity> lol [16:55] <OriginalName> ._. [16:55] <syllogism> all i've done is argue against bad logic by YM [16:55] <youngminii> wtf [16:56] <youngminii> you can't see what you're sheeping [16:56] <youngminii> oh my god [16:56] <syllogism> Lucidity: it's not one [16:56] <youngminii> oh my god [16:56] <youngminii> i can't [16:56] <youngminii> handle this [16:56] <@Kurumi> I am not trolling anyone [16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_ [16:56] <@Kurumi> I am hosting a game [16:56] <@Kurumi> this is serious [16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_ [16:56] <youngminii> syllogism's got to be the biggest troll [16:56] <OriginalName> ._. [16:56] <@Kurumi> but [16:56] <@Kurumi> what happened [16:56] <OriginalName> no [16:56] <OriginalName> the turtle things [16:56] <@Kurumi> I am not paying attention [16:56] <OriginalName> shit [16:56] <@Kurumi> aa [16:56] <@Kurumi> I just like turtles [16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_ [16:56] <OriginalName> mmk [16:56] <Lucidity> is it just me or does [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) So [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) are we down to Varpu/Lucidity [16:56] <Lucidity> 02,02 12,00 2302:125302.1234 02,02 02( OriginalName 02) for likely suspects? [16:56] <Lucidity> scream scum? [16:56] <OriginalName> because [16:56] <Lucidity> lol [16:56] <OriginalName> we want a solid lynch [16:56] <OriginalName> not just [16:56] <OriginalName> herp derp everyone off doing their own shit [16:57] <OriginalName> Dont even try that scum shit on me [16:57] <Lucidity> we're still 24 hours away from lynch [16:57] <OriginalName> so what [16:57] <OriginalName> we tookj [16:57] <OriginalName> 24 hours [16:57] <Lucidity> what possibly reason is there to start tunneling now [16:57] <Lucidity> haha [16:57] <OriginalName> to get that plan away [16:57] <OriginalName> its gonna take 24 hours [16:57] <youngminii> LOL [16:57] <OriginalName> to get our shit together [16:57] <syllogism> tunneling is fine if it creates discussion [16:57] <OriginalName> Im starting early [16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> no it doesnt scream scum lol [16:57] <Lucidity> That's just asking, "Hey guys, who are the 2 candidates I can tag on to without upsetting shit?" [16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> have you read [16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> vers town guide [16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> tunneling isnt a scumtell [16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus [16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> town is more likely to do it than mafia [16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> mafia want to plays afe [16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> they go where the town goes [16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> has no reason to tunnel [16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> as long as mafia doesnt get lynched it doesnt matter lol [16:58] <OriginalName> And i cant tunnel as scum [16:58] <Lucidity> which is exactly what ON is doing? [16:58] <OriginalName> i tried it once [16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> what motivation would ON possibly have as scum [16:58] <Lucidity> roflll [16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> to tunnel you [16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> because youre bad [16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> if it was [16:58] <alanismorisette> wow after that syllo now looks redic scummy [16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> BC [16:58] <OriginalName> it fucking [16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> id understand [16:58] <OriginalName> failed [16:58] <Lucidity> I'm not saying he's tunneling he's scum [16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> what [16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> thats exactly what you said [16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> wow [16:58] <OriginalName> Lucidity [16:58] <Lucidity> I'm saying he's asking the town for 2 safe candidates [16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> lol [16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus [16:58] <OriginalName> just [16:58] <OriginalName> just [16:58] <OriginalName> wow [16:58] <OriginalName> ffs [16:58] <Lucidity> ? [16:59] <OriginalName> No [16:59] <OriginalName> i give up [16:59] <@Kurumi> wanna a replacement [16:59] <@Kurumi> the next in the line is.. [16:59] <@Kurumi> Bill Murray [16:59] <OriginalName> no [16:59] <@Kurumi> so how about that? [16:59] <OriginalName> Im not a ragequit [16:59] <@Kurumi> kk whatever [16:59] <OriginalName> im giving up on explaining [16:59] <OriginalName> why I said that [16:59] <youngminii> if bm was next in line [16:59] <DoctorHelvetica> lucidity its normal if people have a suspicion to tunnel it [16:59] <Lucidity> You think we found the scum [17:00] <youngminii> i'd give my spot just to see him play [17:00] <youngminii> again [17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> because the towns goal is to kill a scum [17:00] <Lucidity> in those 2 candidates? [17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> if you think someone is scum [17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> you tunnel them lol [17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> thats the pro town thing to do [17:00] <OriginalName> i think those two candidates [17:00] <OriginalName> have the highest chances [17:00] <OriginalName> of being scum [17:00] <youngminii> i don't [17:00] <Lucidity> with so little info out [17:00] <OriginalName> From what i have deduced in the thread [17:00] <OriginalName> Ok then [17:00] <Lucidity> rofl [17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> there is a lot [17:00] <OriginalName> put more info in then [17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> to analyse [17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> already [17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> lol [17:00] <alanismorisette> wow@heist [17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> we dont have flip info [17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> but [17:00] <Lucidity> There is a lot more to analyse [17:00] <Lucidity> l [17:00] <Lucidity> o [17:00] <Lucidity> l [17:00] <OriginalName> Lucidity [17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> whats so funny [17:00] <OriginalName> The OMGUS from that [17:00] <OriginalName> doesnt help you [17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> you know what i would do if i ws mafia id say [17:00] <OriginalName> btw [17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> "ignore the day 1 discussion ther eis no info nothing to analyse move on lol" [17:01] <OriginalName> DrH is prob town [17:01] <OriginalName> YM is meh [17:01] <youngminii> ignore the day 1 discussion ther eis no info nothing to analyse move on lol [17:01] <Lucidity> OMGUS? [17:01] <OriginalName> I want to see more from BC [17:01] <OriginalName> oh my god you suck [17:01] <Lucidity> rofl [17:01] <OriginalName> someone accuses [17:01] <Lucidity> I know what it means [17:01] <OriginalName> then you shout back [17:01] <Lucidity> where did I do it? [17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> when you said on is scum after he said youre scum [17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> lol [17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus [17:01] <Lucidity> no [17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) So [17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) are we down to Varpu/Lucidity [17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) for likely suspects? [17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> scream scum? [17:01] <Lucidity> You're completely misrepresenting [17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> yes [17:02] <@Kurumi> hey guys, just do what Ace recommended in Mini [17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> that looks like omgus [17:02] <@Kurumi> RANDOM LYNCH [17:02] <Lucidity> It's scummy because he's asking the town for safe candidates [17:02] <@Kurumi> jk jk :3 play mafia [17:02] <Lucidity> not because i'm one of the 2 suspects [17:02] <Lucidity> rofl [17:02] <@Kurumi> now brb [17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> its not scummy hes seeing if people agree [17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> thats normal to do [17:02] * chaos13_ is now known as chaos13away [17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> no matter what side youre on [17:02] <OriginalName> Its called checking your work [17:02] <OriginalName> making sure im not completely off my rocker [17:02] <Lucidity> horseshit [17:02] <Lucidity> roofl [17:02] <OriginalName> ... [17:02] <OriginalName> fuck it [17:02] <Lucidity> what work? [17:02] <OriginalName> Lucid is soooooo scum [17:02] <Lucidity> You haven't posted anything [17:03] <OriginalName> ... [17:03] <OriginalName> oh [17:03] <OriginalName> my [17:03] <OriginalName> god [17:03] <OriginalName> ... [17:03] * OriginalName facedesks [17:03] * OriginalName facedesks [17:03] * OriginalName facedesks [17:03] * OriginalName facedesks [17:03] * OriginalName facedesks [17:03] * OriginalName facedesks [17:03] * OriginalName facedesks End of relevant conversation Im going to point out the arguement between Lucidity and Me. Take what you will from it, but I think hes definitly up there on the scum leaderboard. I think what's far more interesting there is syllogism's part. I encourage everyone to read this btw. | ||
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PTP1-kooky plan(town) On May 31 2011 05:29 sandroba wrote: Alright, I have a sugestion to make. Everyone should state which player they designed the role for. We don't know how much KP mafia actually has, so after today things might get confusing. This way we can implement LAL more effectively. I would also like to sugest that any person who claims before having any IMPORTANT (that lead us to scum) info or are very close to being lynched to be policy lynched. Only time it's ok to claim without meeting the above conditions is when town decides it's time to massroleclaim. Failing to claim at mass roleclaim will also result in a policy lynch. WaW2-kooky plan(town) On July 05 2011 14:58 sandroba wrote: Okay I have a fucking plan! We are going to treat all days as being 24 hours (We could consider starting this day2, up for discussion). Every day we vote for who to lynch in the first 24 hours and that player will claim how many lives he has (town player has no reason to lie and if he does he gets lynched anyway) and we will fire that amount on him. If a player claims unkillable by nukes like coag we launch 2 and if he's not dead we lynch him. Those will be the only nukes fired every day and it's safe to assume world radiation will not be reached this way. Every player has at least 1-2 nukes and the op says the radiation level needs to be "fairly high" for the conspirator to win. If anyone else fires a nuke he gets auto lynched NOT nuked back. If we follow this plan we will have 2 lynches every day for every night kill axis has. Needless to say this is extremelly advantageos for us since: 1) Prevents conspirator from winning the game. We can stop using this tactic any time when the game gets tilted in allies favor. 2) Gets us 2 lynches everyday and prevents people from random killing other players. XLii-kooky plan (town) On June 14 2011 12:55 sandroba wrote: Ok, so I have an idea. We try to use pm's to our advantage and coordinating blues is extremelly advantageous to town. I propose a DT that has a number on the player list lesser or equal 15 to check me this night. He then pms me my role and I post in the thread that I got checked, of course not revealing his ID. Everyone that has a blue role mansons me. A medic who has a number inferior or equal 10 protects me this night. This should keep mafia guessing, because no one knows how many medics, if any, there are in the first 10 numbers. This can make mafia waste many kp on me or let the plan work. I will not reveal any roles to ANYONE so there are no possible leaks, and will single handly coordinate all the blue force, of course taking into consideration all lists posted in thread and sugested to me via pm's. Possible scenarios: 1) I'm GF, then town is pretty much screwed, but you guys can lynch me if many blues are dead after day1 if you think that's the case. That's the worst possible scenario and a pretty huge loss for town, but I assure I'm not. 2) I'm mafia goon or miller. If I'm mafia I'm pretty dumb proposing this plan, but either way of course the DT will not manson me. If I'm mafia I can lie and tell you guys that a DT has checked me and confirmed my role, causing many blues to roleclaim to me, but then I would risk that there was a DT in the first 15 numbers that can instantly out me as scum randomly mansoning another player and using him as mouth. So it doesn't work well if I'm mafia. If I'm miller I'll of course say in thread that no DT has messaged me (because he won't) and the plan has failed, we can proceed to go by our business and ignore the plan. 3) I'm any other town aligned role (most likely scenario and the real one). If there's a DT who pm's me I'll say so in thread and other blues who have night actions role claim to me. Town proceeds to rape mafia miserably. If no one checks and pms me we ignore this plan and move on. Why this plan is good: First I'm experienced and intuitive enough to make good reads and calls, but not "well known" enough to have a high chance of being mafia GF. Making another praised veteran take this role raises the chance he's the mafia godfather. Second, it has a very slim chance of needlessly tieing up many of our blue roles, since I've limited the possible DTs/Medic protects using the player list. Third, it's pretty hard to make a secure blue coordination center without previously determining a player to be checked or outing the DT, so this is the best I could come up so far. Any criticisms and sugestions are welcome. Let's make this plan the best we possibly can. Cheers. Paranoid Mafia-no kooky plan(scum) Closed casket-no kooky plan (scum) xxxix-no kooky plan (town) Merc Mini-no kooky plan (town) So what does this show us? Sandroba often does silly plans as town, but never as scum. Small sample pool yes, but something to consider. I have Sandroba down as town even though his plan was shit. I was bored btw so don't go asking me why i did this. T.T now he's getting replaced wtf. The meta read still stands. | ||
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