Shit, I'm so excited for this game, even though this is pretty much going to be impossible. I've thought a lot about this and came to the conclusion that mafia's optimal strat is going to be defending their team without fear, since no flips mean they keep hidden even after a scum lynch. Regarding the lynch, it's pretty obvious that we should try to agree on a lynch every day cycle, as the lynch is town kp and should not be wasted. A no lynch day is not acceptable at all and people that refuse to make a stand should be persecuted. About claims: you should only claim if you are about to get lynched or if you found enough mafia to make it worth it. I want to propose that anyone that claims without a damn good reason should be insta-lynched. This setup is even worse than normal, mafia has even a better edge on information, so if you claim you better have a pretty good reason. Also mafia can probably get away with bulshit claims without any repercusions so just don't fucking claim.

Ok so now down to business, I thought chezinu was insane, what's up with the straight foward post? I'm suspicious and dissapointed at the same time.

sandroba

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June 25 2011 10:29 GMT

#77

@chezinu I'm suspiciously dissapointed. I'd rather be fooled all game and get entertained than get an easy mafia day1 and miss out on chez awesomeness. Pretty sad you are sane mafia this game =/
GM does not find your behaviour suspicious so I guess he's mafia with you?

sandroba

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June 25 2011 10:42 GMT

#80

Can I ask you the same? You pretty much shaped up after GM called for your lynch on his first post. What's your opinion on him so far?

sandroba

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June 25 2011 22:34 GMT

#113

I am absolutely 100% against no lynch. We shouldn't even be discussing this. Lynching right is our only shot at winning the game and the only way to produce any relevant info. Arguing that it makes more sense in this setup gets us nowhere. Everything is more dificult to analyse with no flips, but the basics still stand true, and that means we should keep the possible lynches at 2 for each day and MUST lynch everyday. The only policy I'm ok agreeing with is that players that refuse to commit to a lynch should be auto vig'ed the next night. Every other policy being discussed so far (DT claims, lurker lynch) is extremelly situational. We should assume from the players list that everyone is going to be active (that's the point of making this invitational imo).

sandroba

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June 27 2011 19:26 GMT

#222

First of all FoS Jackal for not tunneling me out of the blue. Second and onto serious matters chaoser's post really stand out to me as the most suspicious so far:

On June 26 2011 10:55 chaoser wrote:
Sup guys, finally found some free time to post.

Let's see here, first of all Radfield's plan is pretty legit in my eyes and makes sense. While I was playing RoL's first experimental, my teammate and I just lurked our way through the game, saying only as much as was needed, sometimes even nothing for 24 hour stretches. I definitely feel like, in no-flip games, even more so than others that policy lynching lurkers is key. Now there's still a difference between lurker and inactive but in this group of people I think the lurkers will stick out like a sore thumb.

I completely agree with the vigi of people who vote and then leave. At this point I'd say I agree with most Radfield's points and the rest are just minor semantic details. As such, I think having a medic on him for Night 0 would be pretty good.

At the same time, I want to ask Scamp what he saw in Radfield's plan that suggested to him that it was pushing a no-lynch policy. You kinda posted a one liner and then never came back to respond to it so I was wondering if you could clarify.

So you think that lurking is a good strategy for mafia and you're pro vig shots on lurkers, but you lurk yorself?

sandroba

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June 27 2011 19:57 GMT

#224

@BC let me get this straight: You are calling deconduo scummy and Radfield dumb, but you are voting rad?

Also kurumi can you pls stop trolling? I know you think you can troll with impunity, but I'ma make sure we rectify that this game.

sandroba

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June 27 2011 20:30 GMT

#226

@Caller What made you suspicious of GGQ in the first place? I see some people explaining how GGQ was a good vig hit, but you haven't done so yourself. Why did you hit him?

sandroba

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June 28 2011 05:08 GMT

#288

I actually think you guys are missing the point on LSB post to be honest, cuz I can see a really pro-town outcome if you read between the lines.
Chaoser is my number one suspect for the moment, I call him out on lurking then he pops up and posts a ranking list with no explanation. Seriously?
@Deconduo What do you think about chaoser? Is he town that needs to die or scum?

sandroba

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June 28 2011 06:14 GMT

#291

LOL seriously? Have you read chaoser's second post after I called him out for lurking?
Also way to make me look scummy when I was obviously calling out deconduo on his earlier statement (that you were 75% and needed to die) and trying to get his opinion on chaoser.

I think it's pro-town because it discourages mafia from hitting anyone if they want to cause confusion or Decon is mafia or 2 people get hit. If medics can figure your aligment the outcome is pretty pro-town don't you think?

sandroba

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June 28 2011 06:17 GMT

#292

EBWOP: 2nd paragraph is regarding LSB's post.

sandroba

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June 28 2011 06:55 GMT

#294

Sigh, I think I failed again to communicate my point. Mainly I dissagree with you on LSB being suspicious, I agree with decon and chaoser being scum. I wish I could make a long analysis on chaoser but he has a grand total of 2 not only contentless, but completely random posts. His ranking system boggles my mind and I can't really see any other purpose for his post besides to appear to be contributing while not really.
We have less than a day to decide on the lynch and I would really like us to consolidate our votes sooner, rather than later.
##Vote: Chaoser

sandroba

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June 28 2011 16:09 GMT

#356

Okay Viscera, can you quickly gives us your thoughts and reads?

sandroba

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June 28 2011 22:37 GMT

#417

Ok Viscera, I'm not taking my vote away from you. Your attack on Palmar is complete bullshit, distortion and nitpicking. Since when Decon's claim have to be taken at face value? Vigs and lynches should be used at every opportunity and the fact that they should target who you think is scum is obvious enough lol. Also "Chaoser is suspcious, but am I really the biggest threat right now?" doesn't fly. The fact is you are our biggest shot at consolidating our votes and lynching scum today, which I'm pretty confident we are going to do.

sandroba

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June 29 2011 01:22 GMT

#447

Come on Caller, you are saying LSB and ilovejonn are both mafia AND Viscera is obvtown, yet they don't switch over and kill Viscera? How the hell does that make any sense?
Chaoser was definitevely scummy as shit (read both his posts) and viscera throwing suspicion around like there's no tomorrow just to keep himself alive. He starts with palmar, then when most dissagree he finds himseld another target on Amber (which almost made me switch my vote off him). You say LSB is scum then he insta jumps on it, providing no reasoning (hell, even you provided no reasoning). He just wants anyone else dead that's not him.

sandroba

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June 29 2011 17:17 GMT

#527

Caller, pardon me for being skeptic but I don't buy your claim at all. Let's look through the facts shall we:

1) You trolled most day 1, called people scum for no reason and called deconduo and viscera obvtown for no reason either. Yet you failed to push the people you deemed scum with analysis, you just wanted town to not lynch.

2) Decon got modkilled, he claimed vig. Now you claim vig. Nice.

3) You claim to have shot GM, for no reason either, just because. Really? Why in hell would you shoot GM, if even you did not think he's scum? Also Mafia shot fucking GGQ? I went to his posts and fail to see why in hell mafia would shoot him. My theory is that decon shot him and now that he's dead you are claiming to have shot GGQ with no one to counter claim your bullshit.

You are spreading doubt like there's no tomorrow and fucking up this thread.
You are scum. So is VisceraEyes.

sandroba

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June 29 2011 17:20 GMT

#529

Also what's your purpose for claiming Vig right now? So you can justify not being killed by mafia, because now you have "used your power already". Cool story.

sandroba

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June 29 2011 17:25 GMT

#530

On June 27 2011 19:34 deconduo wrote:

Show nested quote +

Wait, are you claiming you shot GGQ?

Okay guess what. Look at this shit.

sandroba

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June 29 2011 19:58 GMT

#537

@caller LOL nice that you nitpick on the fact that I mistyped GGQ instead of GM.
How can you tell that decon had 1 bullet?
And about defending teamates, isn't that what you have been doing with viscera all along?

The quote of deconduo is he jumping on kurumi when he thought he was claiming to have killed GGQ. That supports my theory, which I have stated above.

sandroba

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June 30 2011 08:20 GMT

#551

What the hell, why are you guys voting fishball? The optimal plan is to hang RoL first, let fishball get another check or get shot by the mafia. Then, if he's still alive we hang him day3. Hanging fishball first is just dumb imo.
##Vote: RebirthofLegend

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