• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:48
CEST 13:48
KST 20:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)14Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE18
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) StarCraft 2 at SC4ALL II Invite #4/8 - Percival Protoss AoE skill expression 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) StarCraft 2 at SC4ALL II Invite #3/8 - Clem
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
The Korean Terminology Thread ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Recent recommended BW games Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament - Season 3 SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo 2 thread General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Clem Fan Club INnoVation Fan Club The Scarlett Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
NBA General Discussion Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5543 users

Suicide in Korea

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 14 15 16 Next All
GG.NoRe
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 04:56:41
May 23 2011 23:06 GMT
#1
I'm sorry this is personally heartbreaking for me and I can get emotional as I had a classmate once who also committed suicide due to school pressure.

This is not really something new, but it has grown in frequency and intensity lately. As many know, academic excellence is held with very high regard in Korea. We are a country of extreme diligence and discipline. From childhood, children are taught to be respectful and to be successful in life. Most of the success is determined by how well one performs in school, starting with the schools, especially universities, a person goes to. It is a matter literally of life and death. From someone looking from the outside, this may seem strange and excessive, sometimes younger Koreans thank of that also, but it is an idea so embedded that it has become culture.

Recently, with final exams looming, 3 students committed suicide. Like most suicides in Korea, this is caused mainly by academic pressure. I will not discuss the details of the unfortunate events, but I just want to bring to light how vicious this culture/notion could be. For sure, this attitude has brought Korea to rapid success, from being a sleepy Asian backwater country in the 70s and 80s, to a truly modern country it is now. There is nothing inherently wrong with this attitude, but I think the government should put certain structures in place to check the ill effects of the pressure that it brings especially to younger people. Usual incidence of suicide often occur before college, where student experience TREMENDOUS pressure to enter Korea's triumvirate of prime universities, called SKY (Seoul, Korea, and Yonsei universities). Pressure intensifies as the year approaches November, where the national exam for universities are conducted. To understand how serious Koreans are about this, it is one time of the year where ALL flights are canceled. ALL. ALL traffic are routed away from exam centers, and one will go to jail if he/she makes noise during this day, no matter the reason. Last year, a total of 146 student died last year of suicide.

For its part, the government is instituting nationwide psychological assistance programs to deal with this. The goal is to obviously provide a support structure for the students in time of great pressure. The great irony here is that, students facing the prospect of taking the exams, they would rather study all day and all night. Going for a psychological session is an utter waste of time at this point. In fact, official record supports this. It is during this time of pressure when visitations and sessions are fewest. Of course. The immediate solution I think is to not make this as a knee-jerk solution, and to actually implement is as a sustainable and standard process, starting at an early age. Moreover, the government, and these centers, should actively reach out to students in a systematic yet non-obtrusive way. They can't expect the solve a serious national disaster like this to be solved by being passive. Most importantly, this is a vivid call to review the education system in Korea. The long term solution here is for the government to enforce a system where first, majority of the Koreans have access to quality education, and second, university standards be improved across the board so students have the option among a healthy number of excellent universities and not be limited to SKY. The road towards this is tough and complex, but it is something that must be done, soon.


Here is an English article I found on the topic:
+ Show Spoiler +
DAEJEON, South Korea — It has been a sad and gruesome semester at South Korea’s most prestigious university, and with final exams beginning Monday the school is still reeling from the recent suicides of four students and a popular professor.

Academic pressures can be ferocious at the university, the Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology, known as Kaist, and anxious school psychologists have expanded their counseling services since the suicides. The school president also rescinded a controversial policy that humiliated many students by charging them extra tuition if their grades dipped.

After the last of the student deaths, on April 7, the Kaist student council issued an impassioned statement that said “a purple gust of wind” had blown through campus.

“Day after day we are cornered into an unrelenting competition that smothers and suffocates us,” the council said. “We couldn’t even spare 30 minutes for our troubled classmates because of all our homework.

“We no longer have the ability to laugh freely.”

Young people in South Korea are a chronically unhappy group. A recent survey found them to be — for the third year in a row — the unhappiest subset among countries in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. The Education Ministry in Seoul said 146 students committed suicide last year, including 53 in junior high and 3 in elementary school.

Psychologists at the university said very few students had sought counseling in recent days because of the time crunch brought on by finals. Ironically, during this period of maximum stress, therapists were handling only a handful of cases, mostly for anxiety.

“Remember that the students here are still very young and they haven’t had much experience with unpredictable situations,” said Kim Mi-hee, a staff psychologist at the campus counseling center, who estimated that about 10 percent of Kaist students had come to the center for help. “To deal with problems they tend to lock into rumination mode.

“But they’re so smart and so bright, they actually cope with stress pretty well. They have great capabilities of insight, so once they do get treatment, it can go pretty fast.”

But there is still no full-time psychiatrist on call, and Kaist professors receive no training on how to spot overstressed or depressed students. Even the entryway to the counseling suite can feel somewhat less than welcoming. Recent visitors found the front door partially blocked by a dead tree in a broken ceramic planter.

South Korea as a whole ranks first among O.E.C.D. nations in suicide and is routinely among the leaders in developed nations. Subway stations in Seoul have barriers to prevent people from jumping in front of arriving trains, and eight bridges in the capital have installed closed-circuit suicide-watch cameras.

Suicides of singers, models, beloved actors, athletes, millionaire heiresses and other prominent figures have become almost routine in South Korea. A former president, Roh Moo-hyun, threw himself off a cliff in 2009 after losing face with his countrymen.

But the suicides of the four Kaist undergraduates — three jumped to their deaths and a 19-year-old freshman overdosed on pills — have stunned the nation in a profound and poignant way. (The professor, a biologist who was reportedly being audited for the misuse of research funds, hanged himself on April 10.)

The competition for a place in a leading university begins in middle school for most South Korean students. More than 80 percent of Korean young people go to college, and parents here spend more money per child on extra classes and outside tutoring — including military-style “cram schools” — than any other country in the O.E.C.D.

The pressure builds to a single day in November, when a national college entrance exam is held. Some mothers pray at churches or temples throughout the day as their children take the test, which is given only once a year and lasts nine hours. The South Korean Air Force even adjusts its flight schedule so as not to disturb the test takers.

The ultimate goal for most students is acceptance at one of the so-called SKY schools — Seoul National, Korea or Yonsei universities. In South Korea’s status-conscious society, a degree from a SKY school is nearly a guarantee of a big career and lifelong prosperity. Pedigree is everything.

But Kaist is different. The university pays no regard to the national exam and instead recruits almost all of its students from among the elite seniors at special science-oriented high schools. Kaist admits only about 1,000 freshmen each year. A personal interview, high school grades and recommendations from principals count the most.

Kaist students are academically gifted, to be sure, but they are also seen as the future leaders of Korea’s vaunted technology-driven economy. In a sense, once they gain entrance to Kaist, the students become national treasures. As a result, many feel a huge (and sometimes crushing) burden to live up to the country’s expectations. The statement by the Kaist student leaders even referred to Kaist students as “the future luminaries of Korea’s sciences.”

The pressures can become too much for some students, especially those who have always been academic superstars but suddenly find themselves struggling to excel against much stiffer competition. “They’ve always been No. 1 in high school, but once they get to Kaist maybe they’re No. 40, or No. 400, and they realize they can’t possibly keep up,” said Oh Kyung-ja, a Harvard-trained professor of clinical psychology at Yonsei University. “The competition can be cruel.”

Suh Nam-pyo, a renowned mechanical engineer who taught for many years at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, became president of Kaist in 2006. He soon instituted a series of changes aimed at modeling Kaist after M.I.T. and other world-class science and research universities.

He mandated, for example, that all courses would be taught in English. That move led to campus-wide consternation because not all students and faculty members were fully fluent in English.

Mr. Suh also engineered a system that required students to pay extra tuition for each hundredth of a point that their grade point average fell below 3.0 (based on a 4.3-point system). All students pay a token fee each semester, Kaist administrators said, but otherwise their tuition is free, financed by government scholarships.

Under the so-called punitive tuition program, a bad semester could cost a student’s family thousands of dollars.

The program, which was applauded at first, has since led to deep humiliation and anxiety among many students. Those who struggled and lost their full rides suddenly saw themselves as losers. Some critics, calling it ruthless, even blamed the program for the recent suicides.

Mr. Suh, faced with withering criticism, recently ended most parts of the tuition plan, and the school announced that some courses would now be taught in English and Korean.
source




DONGJWA!
AimlessAmoeba
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada704 Posts
May 23 2011 23:09 GMT
#2
I had no idea it was such a big issue... 146 students committing suicide purely based on academic pressure? Woww...

I'm sad now
gosuRob
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States319 Posts
May 23 2011 23:11 GMT
#3
And he're I am sitting on my ass when I should be studying, I take my easy life for granted.
Rules? There aren't many rules. You fight mean, you win mean. It takes a certain someone
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
May 23 2011 23:12 GMT
#4
wow. 146 is a lot of students. i know academics is really important but wow. i'm pretty speechless.
Crackensan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States479 Posts
May 23 2011 23:14 GMT
#5
As I learn more about Korea, I'm amazed and at times, disturbed, about what my biological mother made me leave behind when I was adopted and sent to the US.

This is one of those times where I am disturbed.
Tasteless: "Well this strategy is made of balls"--Concerning Fruitdealer Vs. BoXeR
isM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States735 Posts
May 23 2011 23:15 GMT
#6
3 elementary school kids is pretty sickening. Also the system of having to pay more for tuition for each hundredth of a point below 3.0 is awfully ridiculous.
Loose lips sink ships
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
May 23 2011 23:16 GMT
#7
They need to abolish the strict hierarchy between universities. The Korean gouvernement should try to boost weaker universities so that everything balances out. Personally I think the Korean school system is not just perverted but only detrimental. Basically the only thing you seem to learn there is how to memorize facts the rest gets more or less neglected.
Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
May 23 2011 23:18 GMT
#8
I've always thought that the Korean academic system was such bullshit, especially when I talk with my friends who are coming out of that system. By my American standards it just sounds so inhumane.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
May 23 2011 23:19 GMT
#9
Quite a terrible predicament :/. I hope there will be something that can sway people from this sort of action some way or another.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 23:43:07
May 23 2011 23:21 GMT
#10
i'm not sure if it isnt mentioned in OP or the article but i want to point out finance troubles play a part too.

just watched this on MBN.

the college tuitions in korea have risen 30% in the past 4 years while majority of the school do not accept credit cards, cash only for tuitions. there is a 24 month plan but with 30% interest. only 1 out of 15 schools take credit card but limited to a few certain cc companies that has ties with the school. school claims that 1.5% transaction fee is too much of a burden.

i really hope cultural revolution takes place to change parent's view on academic achievements (ie. its ok to do music, its ok to breakdance, its ok to be an artist), make going to school fun and enjoyable, not a do or die institute.

as a 9 year old in korea. i went to school at 8am, finished at 2pm, went to afterschool from 3 to 8.
6 days a week.

longer days for my older sister and brother. USA felt like heaven.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
imperator-xy
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany1377 Posts
May 23 2011 23:21 GMT
#11
they are really doing it the hard way

at the same time we are doing it the real soft way which makes us fall behind those ambitous countries
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
May 23 2011 23:22 GMT
#12
Yeah it is pretty sad but it is a cultural thing and unless peoples attitudes change then its just going to continue. Maybe in 10 years people will have different feelings towards tertiary education.

I also agree that the psychological session is a waste of time but not because "people would rather study". I think it is because it is even as much as an embarrassment to be seen with a psych as it would to do poorly in a test.

And wow at Suhs program... it doesnt work because students are graded with the bell curve. So you are punishing the majority of students no matter what you do. Great scheme for making money though.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 23:25:32
May 23 2011 23:24 GMT
#13
Imagine the kids who give up school for whatever reasons to play starcraft. Success in starcraft is probably their new life, since they could not get to a good school. How many of us could play Starcraft with our lives and future at stake.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 23:24:51
May 23 2011 23:24 GMT
#14
I'm assuming Korea implements a test system similar to that of China, just one entrance exam, and your admittance solely depends on the score? I always thought that the one-test system fails for numerous reasons...

The suicides are extremely unfortunate, but at the same time, nothing short of an education reform will change this
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
May 23 2011 23:24 GMT
#15
@ imperator: does the Korean sýstem produce better students (at academic level)? Personally I`m not really convinced.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
May 23 2011 23:24 GMT
#16
I feel bad for those who feel they need to take their own lives due to school pressures. Perhaps there needs to be a generational change which looks to remove some of the pressures associated with which university one attends and which takes away the additional charges for being below 3.0. Furthermore, there should be more support by way of mental health initiatives to help those who have issues regarding how they feel about their own personal performances.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
dreamsmasher
Profile Joined November 2010
816 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 23:26:24
May 23 2011 23:25 GMT
#17
suicide is also one of the (most? not exactly sure but top 2) leading causes deaths amongst asian americans, males in particular.
dreamsmasher
Profile Joined November 2010
816 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 23:42:25
May 23 2011 23:26 GMT
#18
On May 24 2011 08:24 Irrational_Animal wrote:
@ imperator: does the Korean sýstem produce better students (at academic level)? Personally I`m not really convinced.


on average yes, when you compare the top with the top no. in fact i would argue at the top, westerners shine a bit more.

asians take a very different stance on education from westerners at it reflects. asian americans have higher median income than whites, statistically score higher on standardized tests, and we have an overwhelming presence at any top school, this all within ONE generation.

i'm not going to list the negatives, there are many that I can list but I would go into them too much here.

i would say 95% of my friends who were asian who i grew up with went to either top state universities or ivy league caliber schools.

but i would say most of my white (er non asian) friends who were also strong academically were much stronger all around.

i could list a few examples of differences in parenting style:

1) when i was ~13? i got sent to an SAT camp.
2) i attended school on saturday for about 4 hours (chinese school so a mix of language/culture/math).
3) my parents assigned me homework from when i was a kid until middle school. in fact i was GLAD to go to school because of how relatively easy school was compared to home.
4) had to practice piano for like 2 hours/day 6 hours/day before competitions.
5) i took something like 12? AP tests in high school. although my parents didn't technically force me to this, it was something i felt like i had to do. i considered this (and my parents strongly reinforced this) that this was NORMAL (i.e. if i ever argued that very few % of ppl do this, tey would just say well those are lazy people who have no future etc...)

these are just a few things i guess that are quite (normal) for a lot of asian americans that i would guess your average white kid probably didn't experience. i'm not saying i didn't have a life or that i didn't rebel etc... but that's a whole different story.
e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
May 23 2011 23:31 GMT
#19
That's pretty severe. But then again, I have no idea how you can just tell a culture to back off on the studying. It's almost like telling SC progamers to chill out and don't practice 12 hours a day. As long as there is competition and the ceiling is so high you have no choice but to work your ass off.
King takes Queen
Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
May 23 2011 23:34 GMT
#20
I feel extremely horrified that the students feel that there is so much pressure that their only option is to take their own life. In such a status-driven society, I can only imagine the anxiety they have before those tests.
"People need to just settle the fuck down!"- Djwheat <3
1 2 3 4 5 14 15 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
09:00
Season 6 - Playoffs Day 5
Serral vs RogueLIVE!
Tasteless1242
Ryung 956
IntoTheiNu 720
RotterdaM609
ComeBackTV 602
IndyStarCraft 176
Rex143
CranKy Ducklings59
CranKy Ducklings SOOP6
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 1242
Ryung 956
RotterdaM 609
Lowko304
IndyStarCraft 176
Rex 143
BRAT_OK 52
MindelVK 7
EmSc Tv 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 36647
Bisu 1834
firebathero 735
BeSt 529
actioN 427
Pusan 323
EffOrt 211
Stork 185
Larva 177
ZerO 157
[ Show more ]
Hyun 141
Leta 138
Last 136
Rush 131
Dewaltoss 123
Mind 73
JYJ 60
sorry 41
[sc1f]eonzerg 41
Sexy 31
HiyA 29
Barracks 27
sSak 21
Nal_rA 16
scan(afreeca) 11
Dota 2
XcaliburYe117
Counter-Strike
fl0m4818
SPUNJ308
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King72
Other Games
singsing1474
B2W.Neo559
Happy223
Livibee74
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV127
StarCraft: Brood War
CasterMuse 29
lovetv 12
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 1
EmSc2Tv 1
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH301
• 3DClanTV 92
• StrangeGG 62
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV363
League of Legends
• Jankos1562
Upcoming Events
Ladder Legends
6h 12m
Ladder Legends
8h 12m
RSL Revival
21h 12m
OSC
1d 1h
OSC
1d 12h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 23h
The Patches Monday
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.