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Soulfire
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Soulfire
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I'm a new player, so for the most part I've just been reading what everybody has said thus far and trying to come up with any reasonable conclusion, which not surprisingly has been futile. I've gone over previous games and observed common posting habits for many of the more veteran players in this game and I honestly don't notice anything alarming enough to begin to point fingers safely. I'd definitely have to agree with Pandain, Wiggles and others; focus attention on the inactives, but struggle to differentiate between those who just don't care and are probably going to be modkilled and people who are trying to lay low, especially people making pointless posts to avoid the modkill. But I will speak for other players who are new like I am, it is difficult to post something that contributes in Day 1 - so yet another thing to differentiate: new players who are lost and can only agree with others, and mafia trying to slip under the radar and avoid modkill. | ||
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Soulfire
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Soulfire
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Just my 2 cents. | ||
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Soulfire
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But yeah, Pandain really strikes me as a mafia trying to save LSB - but then again, is there any way to protect someone WITHOUT appearing suspicious? Atleast he presents a logical argument. If LSB does not "prove himself", LYNCH HIM ON DAY 2. | ||
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Soulfire
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##Unvote ##Vote LSB | ||
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Soulfire
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On December 31 2010 07:33 seRapH wrote: Soulfire Few points here: He’s new, he doesn’t want to out himself, and hands lurkers the excuse of not caring. First point isn’t incriminating, but the other two are pretty notable. Ok, fine, Pandain wagon was bullshit, I have no clue why anyone joined it at all, town or not. What I do find interesting is that apparantly Pandain is "pretty damn helpful" while LSB, evidently, has not been. I don’t really get this. I’m thinking that if we can get Soulfire lynched or nightkilled then annul can be cleared of most suspicions. Once again he pushes lynching lurkers too. Also, people don’t switch roles midway (or at least not in this setup), so a change in character indicates they’re either dodging an accusation or real life problems. Completely dodges the LSB/Annul situation by going for a new bandwagon on brocket. Also staying under the radar by following pandain quite closely: Conclusion: Very likely scum. Not too many posts at all, and none of them offering any original insight. imo this is a better lynch than anyone else so far, but Mr Wiggles earns second place. If Soulfire dodges the lynch then I’d at least like someone to DT check him. This "analysis" really strikes me as an attempt to shift the focus off of yourself - pretty much every single one of your points is incredibly flawed and forced, and i'll explain why: Quote #1: "Few points here: He’s new, he doesn’t want to out himself, and hands lurkers the excuse of not caring. First point isn’t incriminating, but the other two are pretty notable." Seriously? I'm not 100% sure if this is you you meant by "not wanting to out myself", but this post was damn near the beginning of the game (first hour or two?). It does the town NO GOOD to point fingers that early with no real evidence. All it could do is start some illogical bandwagon that would be nothing better than a complete gamble. And your third point completely ignored the other part of that sentence, about the other kind of lurker that very well could be a mafia trying to hide... Quote #2: Ok, fine, Pandain wagon was bullshit, I have no clue why anyone joined it at all, town or not. What I do find interesting is that apparantly Pandain is "pretty damn helpful" while LSB, evidently, has not been. Holy shit this sounds forced. I wasn't even talking about "helpful people" in general, I was just commenting on the illogical bandwagon on Pandain (started by the blind FoSing earlygame that you said I should have done - yet you disagree with the bandwagon also?). Re-read what I said again: In no place should it have been expected that I mention LSB; I simply commented on the value of Pandain to this game, shown by his previous activity in other games and what he had already done to help newbies this game. Quote #3:I don’t really get this. I’m thinking that if we can get Soulfire lynched or nightkilled then annul can be cleared of most suspicions. Once again he pushes lynching lurkers too. Also, people don’t switch roles midway (or at least not in this setup), so a change in character indicates they’re either dodging an accusation or real life problems. For starters, I push lynching lurkers (even though you said I defended them in the first quote...?) because at the time this seemed like the most logical option to us, and frankly it still kind of is, for the reasons I explained above - a lurker will lurk and we have no guarantee of ever catching them, but an active mafia make slip up. I don't even get how I'm connected to the suspicion of annul; I think annul was suffering from some serious tunnel vision, and LSB slipped up in his defense. A change in character could easily be a scum trying to hide at an opportune moment - I don't really understand that last sentence. Quote #4: Completely dodges the LSB/Annul situation by going for a new bandwagon on brocket. Also staying under the radar by following pandain quite closely. Um, I've always been in favor of voting inactives (for reasons listed above), and above you even stated that. I viewed the long argument between LSB and annul as, as stated above, tunnel vision - both were active players that may slip up in the long run to reveal to us their potential role as scum. It seemed much more logical to lynch Brocket, especially since he was more active in the other game of Mafia he played. As for my vote against LSB, I admittedly followed a hunch that wasn't safe after reading Pandain's analysis - if he was red, it would've given us a LOT of information, but unfortunately he wasn't. Not sure how this is scummy; this is more like the act of a newb to the game. Quote #5: Conclusion: Very likely scum. Not too many posts at all, and none of them offering any original insight. imo this is a better lynch than anyone else so far, but Mr Wiggles earns second place. If Soulfire dodges the lynch then I’d at least like someone to DT check him Basically your analysis felt madly forced, and then in the end without contributing ANYTHING legitimate in your analysis you feel strongly enough to say "very likely"? That seems suspicious to me, quite frankly, but I'll let the others decide on that. Apart from that, I'm following the discussions carefully and have for now decided to vote for Mr. Wiggles as mostly a temporary vote. | ||
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Soulfire
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Soulfire
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1. I play the "newb card" because I am a newb, lol. Not everything is a hint, of course you have to force things to make this analysis seem valid. 2. Did you even read what I said? You sounded pretty scummy, taking into account the information fishing you were doing, but I preferred Brocket in the end because he was more scummy, and a lurker. And how was I following you again? 3. Changed my mind because I didn't think clearly enough and followed a bandwagon because I'm a newb - clearly you didn't read my defense post, or just didn't pay attention. 4. I don't think I'm a lurker tbh, not like some others like Darth or GeorgeClooney... I'm a newb who comments on the posts of others when necessary. TBH half of the posts from "active" players are useless, so taking that into account, I'm just saying what I can and not pointing fingers randomly. I even said I was voting for Mr. Wiggles as a temporary vote, though I never bothered changing it because I knew it wouldn't go through, and everyone was set on annul. Kinda obnoxious how you guys do these forced analysis posts - I guess I'm a lurker because I don't, though. | ||
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Soulfire
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Soulfire
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Voting for TheMango and Pandain off of a hunch; I definitely understand takin me out though. | ||
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Soulfire
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It sounds like he knows something that we don't; why does he think that I'm a better lynch than someone like d3? It'd be the same to a townie, a scummy inactive. I know that I'm townie, and with that i'm very confident that Orgolove and the people that he's defending are scum. | ||
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