EPTCan anyone improve buildings positioning?
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top zealot
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bottom zealot main
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bottom zealot natural
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top zergling
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bottom zergling
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Racek
Czech Republic9 Posts
Can anyone improve buildings positioning? + Show Spoiler + top zealot bottom zealot main bottom zealot natural top zergling bottom zergling | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
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funnybananaman
United States830 Posts
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
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IceCube
Croatia1403 Posts
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Racek
Czech Republic9 Posts
I know 3 depot walls are not very viable, that's just in case. | ||
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StunnerZ4
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lyAsakura
United States1414 Posts
On October 02 2010 07:57 StunnerZ4 wrote: I think 3 way supplying is great in the case of defending an expo. Most people only "EXPECT" that it should "ONLY" be two supply depot but there's no rule stating how many there should be and when. Take it from an A ranked player, if Flash were to 3 wall supply I'm sure the whole community would do it on that particular map. Whatever works and holds up the expansion, go for it! But yeah, not for TvZ unless it's ling proof. There is no possible way you can survive early game with a 3 depot natural wall in tvz, ling proof or not. | ||
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seRapH
United States9808 Posts
On October 02 2010 07:57 StunnerZ4 wrote: I think 3 way supplying is great in the case of defending an expo. Most people only "EXPECT" that it should "ONLY" be two supply depot but there's no rule stating how many there should be and when. Take it from an A ranked player, if Flash were to 3 wall supply I'm sure the whole community would do it on that particular map. Whatever works and holds up the expansion, go for it! But yeah, not for TvZ unless it's ling proof. its not that nobody wants to try it because they don't think it'll work, its that it doesnt work. theres a reason flash doesnt do it, and this is it. there's a reason we've never seen flash go mass firebats, or mass wraiths, or 14cc into mass scv rush. it doesn't work. edit: i hope you didn't mean you were an A ranked player, because its quite evident from your post that you're not. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10406 Posts
On October 02 2010 13:18 seRapH wrote: its not that nobody wants to try it because they don't think it'll work, its that it doesnt work. theres a reason flash doesnt do it, and this is it. there's a reason we've never seen flash go mass firebats, or mass wraiths, or 14cc into mass scv rush. it doesn't work. edit: i hope you didn't mean you were an A ranked player, because its quite evident from your post that you're not. Awww... Frank, cmon!!! FlaSh will go mass firebat as long as JD goes mass lings all-in =) FlaSh will beat JD in the WCG =) | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
On October 02 2010 07:57 StunnerZ4 wrote: I think 3 way supplying is great in the case of defending an expo. Most people only "EXPECT" that it should "ONLY" be two supply depot but there's no rule stating how many there should be and when. Take it from an A ranked player, if Flash were to 3 wall supply I'm sure the whole community would do it on that particular map. Whatever works and holds up the expansion, go for it! But yeah, not for TvZ unless it's ling proof. That's what everyone is talking about. It doesn't work for tvz. Of course in some situations in tvp its viable. When protoss is doing some 2 base all in it can work. The reason why it doesn't work for tvz is not because that its ling proof. Its because by the time you finish it making your depots at the regular timing it won't be finished in time if zergs make zerglings. If you build them in advance its going to cut on your timings which is against the whole purpose of the wall in the first place. What is the purpose of a wallin? Its so you can lay off on defense such as a bunker and even rines. To actually complete a 3 depot wall you will have to make rines which then you won't need the wall in. It just makes your nat smaller and causes it to be easier to harass. | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On October 02 2010 07:57 StunnerZ4 wrote: I think 3 way supplying is great in the case of defending an expo. Most people only "EXPECT" that it should "ONLY" be two supply depot but there's no rule stating how many there should be and when. Take it from an A ranked player, if Flash were to 3 wall supply I'm sure the whole community would do it on that particular map. Whatever works and holds up the expansion, go for it! But yeah, not for TvZ unless it's ling proof. So which korean on the ladder are you? + Show Spoiler + Because we all know that the only foreigner at A was Idra and he posts on Idra On October 03 2010 09:20 Ilikestarcraft wrote: That's what everyone is talking about. It doesn't work for tvz. Of course in some situations in tvp its viable. When protoss is doing some 2 base all in it can work. The reason why it doesn't work for tvz is not because that its ling proof. Its because by the time you finish it making your depots at the regular timing it won't be finished in time if zergs make zerglings. If you build them in advance its going to cut on your timings which is against the whole purpose of the wall in the first place. What is the purpose of a wallin? Its so you can lay off on defense such as a bunker and even rines. To actually complete a 3 depot wall you will have to make rines which then you won't need the wall in. It just makes your nat smaller and causes it to be easier to harass. On top of this, a ling proof wall is also marine proof and will lead you to funneling when you leave making ling surrounds or lurkers a pita to deal with. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On October 03 2010 10:45 d(O.o)a wrote: So which korean on the ladder are you? + Show Spoiler + Because we all know that the only foreigner at A was Idra and he posts on Idra On top of this, a ling proof wall is also marine proof and will lead you to funneling when you leave making ling surrounds or lurkers a pita to deal with. He told me he was A+ in a pm. The 1st one is good but id probably not use it cause it looks like one of htose AI fuck up wall ins, the 2nd one id use though, mostly cause its just a nice clean zealot proof wall the ones at the natural..just no | ||
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Rikstah
Australia126 Posts
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mia-X17
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