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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-03 19:08:35
September 29 2010 20:05 GMT
#1
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In Sc2 either the map sizes are smaller or just the units and everything are larger, either way- it seems very hard to port a map very accurately because of the nature of the 3d/camera angle, the angle of the terrain tools does not match the exact direction of the isometric shapes in bw. The angle of the slant is much steeper in sc2 than bw.
So this is the reason why I have to change the layout so drastically. I will try to make a larger version some time in the future and see how much more/less accurate it will be to the original. As most of you may probably know, I played a shit ton of BB in sc and bw. I've written guides , made better versions of the map , and done a lot of work on the LikiWiki .

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Unlike other map threads, this one is mostly finalized, (with just minor bug fixes, or little things changed for balance). So don't bother discussing how the terrain should look or what I should do to the map (except for the aforementioned). The main design layout is done, the deco is done.

I hope to get some players to play the map, 1v1s and 2v2s. I want to see what kind of core strats , base blueprints, and build orders people come up to see if this game (sc2) is actually balanced at the small scale level as well.

Download REPLAYS


Anyways, here are the map pics (more detailed stuff further down)
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(yes those are blood splats in the center)


(4) Small Blood Bath 2010
Version 0.8

  • 2-4 players, in the corner positions.
  • Almost uncomfortably close start locations. (84x77 playable area).
  • Action fast paced map from start to finish.
  • Main bases are 8x1500 blue crystal & 2x5000 geyser.
  • Side yellow crystals are 3x3000 (6 per base).
  • Center has slight LoS blocker in 'X' pattern.
  • Short bridge and unbuildable land in the center.
  • Wide chokes for each base entrance (about 9 squares)
  • Space around minerals and gas for harassment
  • Around ~20 second game clock time walk distance from main to main


Analyzer pics:
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Here are some of my ideas for basic Terran base setups:
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Some things I think may be difficult for players on this map:

  • Creep tumors spread across gaps (I could possibly find ways to block this)
  • No tumors in the center (again, could find a way to do this maybe if needed)
  • Pylon warp ins from across cliffs (I think I got all the spots)
  • Tank Ranges across cliffs (This was even hard for most players in scbw, I think I blocked the tanks from hitting the side bases [but not minerals] at least)
  • Baneling rushes
  • 6-10 pool rushes
  • Bunker Rushes/All in SCV
  • 10 gate (or earlier) Chrono'd zealots
  • Sentry forcefield rush/harass on mineral lines
  • Protoss wall ins
  • Tanks
  • Colossus
  • Bunker Salvage

I'm really interested in the great stuff you guys can come up with to address these things among others ofc.

Map is uploaded to US / NA Server. If anyone on other servers wants to upload to your server please do. I only ask that you don't change anything without my consent. Thanks
Download

PS- Wasn't sure if I should make a separate topic in the strat forum or something for discussion of, well, strategies. So in the future any discussion may be move to that if one is created.

Also, If this map garnered enough attention, I would like to host a Blood Bath Tournament and stream it etc. possibly for 2v2s as well as 1v1s ofc

Poll: sc2 BB Tourney!

Hell Yes! (31)
 
69%

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fVDGu82FeQ (7)
 
16%

nooooooo (5)
 
11%

maybe (2)
 
4%

45 total votes

Your vote: sc2 BB Tourney!

(Vote): Hell Yes!
(Vote): nooooooo
(Vote): maybe
(Vote): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fVDGu82FeQ






..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Zanzabar Haberdasher
Profile Joined July 2010
United States510 Posts
September 29 2010 20:20 GMT
#2
Bloodbath is/was my favorite map of all time. Fast expanding on it is the pinnacle of manliness. And you have done it justice. You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.
I have a very unique name.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 20:25:33
September 29 2010 20:20 GMT
#3
btw, I'm online now and Waiting in a game if anyone wants to play!
Spor.919 or map name is Small blood Bath 2010
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 21:00:48
September 29 2010 21:00 GMT
#4
shit, whoever yolo is that messaged me in game, I closed the chat window after i party invited you and I didn't save your ID from there >.<
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
dimfish
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States663 Posts
September 29 2010 21:02 GMT
#5
This is awesome, but I'm at work. Will check later
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 21:17:23
September 29 2010 21:11 GMT
#6
I noticed something strange about the edge of the map, units can walk where its red, and you can build some buildings in some of it. But some spots no, I will have to check more of that later.
nvm, im trippin
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CagedMind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States506 Posts
September 29 2010 22:44 GMT
#7
I've had to do custom walking paths on a map. Was many random spots you couldn't walk on ramps some not being usable. Seriously took my hours cause I had a lot of ramps and the same custom walking paths for one wouldn't work for another. Plus had to test in game some 50 times.
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bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
September 29 2010 23:28 GMT
#8
Where's the "Hell, it's about time!" button?

I also always loved the 64x256 version, y'know the ffa with two BB's, separated by that immense chasm of deep, dark space
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dimfish
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States663 Posts
September 30 2010 00:23 GMT
#9
So I didn't play blood bath in BW, but some time ago I came across BB guides and it made for fun reading.

For SC2 I didn't see it in the custom join list, so I played some games with Very Hard AI, trying to go 9 pool, two spine crawlers, then plant an evo and a roach warren to protect the crawlers as I add more. Roach seemed dumb, though, there's just not enough gas. I might try zergling and spend gas on upgrades, but I'm pretty sure zerg dies without fast crawlers (unless you 6 pool).

Also, CharlieMurphy, I think having the middle be creep-free is good. It was easy for me to push around my base with tumors and crawlers to have a bunch of hatches and both golds, but I couldn't extend the creep out into the middle to keep that up. It seems like you should have to put together some units and try a drop or a bust.

This is cool, wish more people were playing it
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10154 Posts
September 30 2010 00:57 GMT
#10
watchtower in the middle plz
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
September 30 2010 01:07 GMT
#11
One of the classic Blizzard maps from Brood War, and you've reproduced it quite well.
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NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
September 30 2010 01:17 GMT
#12
I may be wrong but didnt another TLer just make BB like 1 week ago? Oo
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Danzepol
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States211 Posts
September 30 2010 01:57 GMT
#13
post replays in the first post !
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BoomStevo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States332 Posts
September 30 2010 02:03 GMT
#14
On September 30 2010 10:17 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:
I may be wrong but didnt another TLer just make BB like 1 week ago? Oo

You are correct.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=158246 - My Maps
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
September 30 2010 05:22 GMT
#15
On September 30 2010 09:57 FlaShFTW wrote:
watchtower in the middle plz


can;t, it would be way too cheap for this map. Besides, the map is so small why would you need one anyways.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
September 30 2010 05:52 GMT
#16
Hell yes, Finally a decent version.
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
September 30 2010 08:59 GMT
#17
Blood Bath! Woot!
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
September 30 2010 10:40 GMT
#18
First couple of games on the map.
Excited that the game seems to port well for this map!

I think it's two 1v1 and one 2v2

Enjoy (and play more bb!)
http://www.mediafire.com/?x0an0regm9t1ep3
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-03 19:08:55
October 03 2010 19:05 GMT
#19
Anyone wanna play right now?

How is there supposed to be a tourney if no one will play the map !

changed the mineral formation a bit.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Munk-E
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States672 Posts
October 03 2010 20:19 GMT
#20
I made this map a while ago withe the auto convert function in the map maker, but there was no gold.
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