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On July 17 2010 14:31 Bill Murray wrote: no clues, sir BM said SIR, Pyrr is obviously Godfather. | ||
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On July 17 2010 14:35 Pandain wrote: Youngmini? I only trust you.... Let's ally! We can trust no one else in this hideous gotham of a city. PANDAAAIN! What's up! Hehe yeah let's totally bust some scumnuts together  | ||
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On July 17 2010 14:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: No, he's just obviously intolerant of my sex change. I didn't know the GF was a girl. | ||
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I just got my wisdom tooth taken out, I want my money bitch. ##Vote Pyrrhuloxia | ||
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On July 18 2010 05:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Secondly, we should set up potential lists of people to watch out for until they can be confirmed. I would start with BloodyC0bbler Foolishness DTA YoungMirii Citizen I believe us 5 should be under the most scrutiny at the beginning of this game. What, why am I included in a scum list  Anyways, I've been spamming Starcraft 2 all night and I'm dead tired but since we haven't really moved out of RVS it looks like I haven't missed out on much. I have a question for BM. What happens if everyone votes to abstain? If the answer is a no lynch, then I suggest everyone change their votes to abstain for the first day. A no lynch (in my experience) on the first day is generally beneficial to town in a standard-ish setup. We'll also get all the modkills out of the way which will narrow down the list of potential scum. I especially do not want to accidentally go and lynch a blue role, that'd be horrible. In fact, I have another question (I may have just missed this in the OP), are roles flipped upon death? I'd assume so but I just want to make sure. Just for some pre-emptive planning for the night: DTs check 'good' players, especially players that are unlikely to go inactive. Medics should protect whoever they want, generally you'd want to protect the person that seems the most towny and frequently posts. Of course, if you feel that you should be doing something else, you should trust your instincts. | ||
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On July 18 2010 09:48 youngminii wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 18 2010 05:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Secondly, we should set up potential lists of people to watch out for until they can be confirmed. I would start with BloodyC0bbler Foolishness DTA YoungMirii Citizen I believe us 5 should be under the most scrutiny at the beginning of this game. What, why am I included in a scum list Anyways, I've been spamming Starcraft 2 all night and I'm dead tired but since we haven't really moved out of RVS it looks like I haven't missed out on much. I have a question for BM. What happens if everyone votes to abstain? If the answer is a no lynch, then I suggest everyone change their votes to abstain for the first day. A no lynch (in my experience) on the first day is generally beneficial to town in a standard-ish setup. We'll also get all the modkills out of the way which will narrow down the list of potential scum. I especially do not want to accidentally go and lynch a blue role, that'd be horrible. In fact, I have another question (I may have just missed this in the OP), are roles flipped upon death? I'd assume so but I just want to make sure. Just for some pre-emptive planning for the night: DTs check 'good' players, especially players that are unlikely to go inactive. Medics should protect whoever they want, generally you'd want to protect the person that seems the most towny and frequently posts. Of course, if you feel that you should be doing something else, you should trust your instincts. Okay so I just read the OP and I didn't notice the part about 2 of each blue role before. In light of the new (for me anyway) information, I suggest this modified plan. Since there's always the possibility of medics and DTs overlapping, I suggest blues follow a more strategical form of play. Here is the list of players numbered: + Show Spoiler + 1. tree.hugger 2. brownbear 3. youngminii 4. foolishness 5. chaoser 6. divinek 7. xelin 8. hyperbola 9. SiNiquity 10. lakrismamma 11. rastaban 12. bumatlarge 13. Amber[LighT] 14. SouthRawrea 15. pandain 16. ~OpZ~ 17. Infundibulum 18. Jayme 19. Subversion 20. LaxerCannon 21. DARTH THIEN AN 22. BloodyC0bbler 23. d3_crescentia 24. Misder 25. Citi.zen 26. Pyrrholuxia 27. Tricode 28. zeks 29. ketomai 30. roffles All DTs should investigate the player directly under them and then move down one player each night. If #30 (roffles) is a DT, he would check #1 (tree.hugger). I would suggest medics do the same but I believe medics would be better playing by their own instincts even if there is that small chance they'll overlap. Keep in mind I'm only suggesting this for night 1, and should there be a need to investigate someone in particular, we'll discuss that when the time comes. | ||
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On July 18 2010 09:51 Bill Murray wrote: EVERYONE abstaining? I guess it'd no lynch. Didn't expect that to happen! Okay so everyone should abstain imo. If you have any objections to this idea, please raise it asap because we need everyone to switch their vote to abstaining. Even one vote = lynch and that will be very suspicious of the person who left their vote by 'accident'. ##Unvote Pyrr ##Vote Abstain | ||
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On July 18 2010 10:13 SiNiquity wrote: I'm not sure I like it. The inactives will get modkilled, no one gets lynched, the mafia kills 2 more people, and then we're back at square one, no? On July 18 2010 10:16 Jayme wrote: No-Lynch? Oh hell no absolutely not. I don't understand how a no-lynch is beneficial to the town if you're going to kill an inactive anyway. You learn absolutely nothing from it, you don't even have a CHANCE at hitting a red, and you're basically wasting a whole day on nothing. No lynch is a terrible idea. If we lynch someone on the first day without any good reason there's a solid chance (12/15) that we'll hit a townie. That's 80%. There's also a better chance of lynching a blue than there is of scum. A no lynch is a gift that we should utilize instead of RVS. | ||
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Anyway, what's with Opz randomly saying everyone should PM him? Is he some mafia veteran god? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, why would you even try and ask that? Do you honestly think people will PM you or are you scum trying to bait the newbies for some free blue kills? @ Subversion: There's been nothing interesting. You're clearly misreading the thread if you see anything interesting because it's a bunch of people (including myself) in complete disarray talking about stuff that no one else agrees with. As for hyperbola's bandwagon: it has absolutely no reasoning behind it but it is day 1. I'd prefer abstaining/lynching someone that's about to be modkilled but so many of you are against that with no good reason and decide to lynch someone based on the smallest reasoning founded on RVS. | ||
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Does this not strike you as scummy at all? Overly scummy but scummy nonetheless? In fact, I think this is the scummiest post I have seen all game (not that long). However, I don't think you're really that bad at this game and even a mediocre scum wouldn't do that kind of mistake. Will need confirmation on other more experienced TL mafia players on your meta. | ||
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Obvious blue advice? Really? Do you honestly believe that all 30 people in this thread know exactly how to play blue? Do you really think that each and every new person in here knows how to play their role perfectly? So in the case of all 30 people knowing the exact way to play without any discussions as to any plans we should just leave it at that and not discuss our options? You can't be that stupid, I refuse to believe it. Also, what already answered questions? Back up your statements with evidence please. How is telling the town to abstain not a good idea? I'm willing to accept criticism of my ideas, but I'm not willing to just sit back and watch as someone comes in, votes for me as a placeholder in case a bandwagon is formed on me (which I suppose is pre-emptive bandwagoning) and then says my ideas are not good. Information Instead of Analysis. In fact, IIoA is a big scumtell in my experiences in other mafia sites (not sure about TL since this site is actually quite a lot different). I never said citi.zen said I was good. In fact, I implied citi.zen said I was quite bad. I don't critique citi.zen's play because as far as I can tell, people seem to believe his meta is good but if he continues to critique me, so be it. I don't care. Your 'just in case' is the same as bandwagoning, except you're doing it early. You think there might be a chance that people will start voting for me so you put your vote on me 'just in case'. Biggest hidden form of bandwagoning imo. My conclusion: You're either a really bad scum, really bad townie, or a fucking bad blue. ##Bote infundibulum | ||
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On July 18 2010 23:49 XeliN wrote: Actually scrap that, I've just gone over your posts individually Youngminii and your coming across so scummy to me. You argue everyone to abstain on the first day, or vote for someone that is going to be killed anyway. That directly helps mafia, and further reduces any information that we could have going into Day 2 I completely understand that it might seem as if it would reduce any information but I was hoping that the reactions to the plan would be something I could analyse (and still plan to analyse actually, since there's been good posts against it and just absolutely stupid posts against it) later in the game. This wasn't my ulterior motive or anything, I genuinely did want a no lynch or equivalent because there's still the greater chance of lynching blue and is generally not a good way to lynch (day 1 plays). you've also tried to directly influence what any blues in the game do on the first day So I take it you're saying a mechanical method of investigation as to make sure both checks aren't used on the same person is a bad thing? You're saying it somehow makes me scum because this method of checking CLEARLY helps scum? and instead of addressing the points infundulum makes against you, you flip reverse it and accuse him of being Red. Remove vote Vote youngminii What is this, I don't even... READ BEFORE YOU POST. I would honestly like to know why you think this doesn't address the points he makes against me. Please, tell me. On July 18 2010 21:24 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: i really should refresh before i post, since i missed your last post when i was writing mine. anyway your defense up there only addresses 1 thing that BC and citizen pointed out, which was the initial sentence. maybe you were joking (a reasonable explanation, i do admit, and i read it that way at first for what it's worth), maybe you weren't. but what about asking the already answered questions? what about obvious blue advice that any blue knows? what about telling the town it's a good idea to abstain? (it's not) citizen didn't say that you weren't strong as i saw it, rather he said those kinds of mistakes were not something he would expect from you. see, this is why i wrote that "just in case," since i know i'm not gonna be here my vote has a chance of being useless so i'm taking a gambit with a person that i think could be a lynch target as the night deadline rolls around. i knew you would come and have something to say; obviously just not this soon (sooner than me lol). sorry, but you haven't convinced me to move my vote. On July 18 2010 21:46 youngminii wrote: There was only one thing that they did point out and that's the only thing that was directed at me, hence I responded to it. Obvious blue advice? Really? Do you honestly believe that all 30 people in this thread know exactly how to play blue? Do you really think that each and every new person in here knows how to play their role perfectly? So in the case of all 30 people knowing the exact way to play without any discussions as to any plans we should just leave it at that and not discuss our options? You can't be that stupid, I refuse to believe it. Also, what already answered questions? Back up your statements with evidence please. How is telling the town to abstain not a good idea? I'm willing to accept criticism of my ideas, but I'm not willing to just sit back and watch as someone comes in, votes for me as a placeholder in case a bandwagon is formed on me (which I suppose is pre-emptive bandwagoning) and then says my ideas are not good. Information Instead of Analysis. In fact, IIoA is a big scumtell in my experiences in other mafia sites (not sure about TL since this site is actually quite a lot different). I never said citi.zen said I was good. In fact, I implied citi.zen said I was quite bad. I don't critique citi.zen's play because as far as I can tell, people seem to believe his meta is good but if he continues to critique me, so be it. I don't care. Your 'just in case' is the same as bandwagoning, except you're doing it early. You think there might be a chance that people will start voting for me so you put your vote on me 'just in case'. Biggest hidden form of bandwagoning imo. My conclusion: You're either a really bad scum, really bad townie, or a fucking bad blue. ##Bote infundibulum | ||
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On July 18 2010 23:13 citi.zen wrote: youngminii, you seem to have a lot of trouble reading a simple statement so let me clarify it for you: you did well last game, hence I think you are a pretty good player. I never implied otherwise. Must have misunderstood one or two of your posts. Doesn't change a thing. | ||
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