caller's game moved too fast paced for me

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On March 11 2010 11:34 Incognito wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2010 11:12 L wrote: ermm, ace was innocent last game so that example actually goes against your argument. Yeah, hence why Ace's actions were misleading. But the issue is that while he looked like the GF, he wasn't fooling anyone but the town. In the end he got shot for it.If a member of the mafia wins mayor/pardonner, isn't it GUARANTEED that he'll be the Godfather? Not even remotely. Mafia can grab both spots, put the goon in the mayor role, have him swing around with his 3 votes for a day or 2, then have the GF pardoner gain credibility by pushing the lynch of the mayor. Then lategame comes, we're in a lylo situation and... oh shit, we can't lynch because he pardons. The reason why they can't is the threat of having DTs check both, yet people are here saying "well, its useless to check". Wrong. checking is the threat itself, and there's a 100% chance that you find someone legit in either mayor or pardoner. If the GF goes up, what role does he take? What if his counterpart is blue and gets confirmed through role usage? Can the GF have his team hit the BGs in order to take out the confirmed protected blue? If he does, he needs to kill both BGs or reveal a goon (or just reveals a goon), then he needs a GOOD reason for why HE isn't dead the next day. Either way, the threat of checking both elected positions is massive, especially because if a GF doesn't run, then you have a set of DTs and protected blues that have tools to confirm each other. A medic mayor, for instance, who blocks a hit is a huge "oh shit" moment for mafia. Letting two potential blues have that position is also huge. Additionally, there's the question of 'what blue'? Who does the GF take? If he's a safe role, why would he run for mayor? If he's an active role, he needs to lie carefully and can be found out if he tries to claim. And that's another point; Pretty much any blue that gets elected is probably going to claim immediately. So the GF can't fucking putz around. You guys simply don't see how powerful having a blue office holder that can be checked is. Qatol was shitting bricks about it earlier, which is why the BGs are public, but we can abuse that too. Just wait, champs. Think for a bit and build a strategy given our game format; its highly abusable. Uh a bit confusing here. But what happens if the GF just picks green? Nothing to prove and nothing to hide. How do we abuse that instance? I always wondered why GF's always pick blue roles instead of green, wouldn't it make more sense to pick green because there are more of them? | ||
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On March 12 2010 09:27 madnessman wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2010 09:08 Iaaan wrote: I originally voted for incognito just because I thought it would be nice to protect a veteran who posts alot. No ses pools of noobiness/inactivty. But, I'm changing my vote to BC, simply because he looks like the candidate that is easiest to hold accountable. L is quite ambiguous. Not answering questions/confirming things and posting lots of walls of text. Also, I think that whichever of the three doesn't win will probably be the first person lynched if they aren't mafia. I originally dismissed L as well for his hoity-toity posting, but after reading his posts more closely, I am pretty convinced he's town-aligned. I wouldn't say his posts are gems "chock full of chocolatey goodness," but they DO have a lot of substance. It's just that his rhetoric/phrasing make it very easy to miss what he implies. As such, I don't think he should be readily dismissed as a candidate just because he is not confirming things... My personal guess would be that he's vigil/bus driver. I also think L is town, for the reasons Incognito addressed. If L wins and is checked if he is town aligned, we could assume that Incognito is also town aligned. If all of the members running for candidacy are town aligned, that is a huge advantage for the town. If we can get two of us in the office, I think the game will be easy win for us. | ||
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On March 16 2010 10:31 Versatile wrote: ummm, no @ BM. i agree with whoever said malongo being red was luck. he wasn't even playing. as for our next lynch target: town, if you don't recognize that someone between BC, L and incog is mafia, i will once again have to refer to the collective as a bunch of dingbats. clearly, something is not adding up. at least one of them is mafia. and if we lynch one of them, we're guaranteed a red popping up. my suggestion would be BC. and if incog threatens to pardon, we should kill incog first. Are you serious? BC and incog are the two of the last people I would suspect to be mafia. they both suspected Malongo, and even got a lot of people to vote for him. I would suspect those who voted for abenson after BC changed his vote to Malongo. That means they were trying to make sure Abenson gets lynched so Malongo could be saved. | ||
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March 17 2010 01:49 GMT
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On March 17 2010 10:16 flamewheel91 wrote: asd; a;dklfj a;slf fucking formatting. Why isn't the blue working for the names??? T_T you forgot to close one of the blues. | ||
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March 17 2010 11:48 GMT
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On March 17 2010 19:26 madnessman wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2010 11:07 citi.zen wrote: On March 17 2010 10:17 madnessman wrote: Zona was a really good poster. Sad to see him go ![]() Since both bodyguards were bumped off, can we safely assume that at least one of the mayor/pardoner people are legit? Not even remotely - why would a mafia in office care if BG's are killed? It's not like they need them for protection, and in fact it can be an easy way to increase credibility - OMG they must be coming for us!!?!? Don't assume anything until the officials start to speak up and actually make sense. Lol.. wow, you're right; I somehow completely didn't consider this. The thing is though, if mafia have a member in office and just killed off the 2 BG's, they would essentially be wasting 2 KP on people they know are just regular green townies, instead of gunning for potential blues. It seems to me that the only reason why the mafia would do this is if they thought they would be unable to accomplish a successful lynch of the mayoral role that they do not have in office. Last game, I was a firm advocate that AT LEAST the mayor or pardoner HAD to be mafia, given the game format with 2 mafia teams, and the very, very low vote count of elections, to the point that I hopped on the redtooth bandwagon, just because I thought redtooth may be mafia, and was fairly certain that L was, and he promised to off himself if redtooth flipped blue (which he did, but L didn't hold himself up to that end of the bargain lulz). But in this game, I am not so sure whether there's mafia in office. According to Incog and BC, they have worked together using their respective roles of busing and role checking to confirm each others roles. So with regard to there being mafia in office, it seems that BC is a confirmed DT, and Incog is a confirmed bus driver. The question is then, is Incog town or mafia aligned? There's definitely a chance that he's mafia aligned, but I don't know how we could discern whether he is one or not. Even if he is though, I don't think it'd be a huge threat to the town. He's probably not in contact with fellow mafia, which makes me doubt that Incog and BC could both be collaborating and both be mafia (in which case the town would be screwed). And a mafia-aligned bus driver with no more swaps left and not knowing who his team mates probably isn't much use to them. What I think we should think about is whether the mafia only ran ONE mayoral candidate--Malongo. Keep in mind that Malongo ran really late in the game, which could be indicative of the fact that the mafia didn't have anybody who took decisive action, and up and ran without consulting the rest of the team. This would make me more inclined to think that our officials are legit. Someone I would like to call out though is tree.hugger. I was looking at the players list and had completely forgotten that you were playing. Your last post was on like the 13th I think? Where you been, man? Also, l10f, all you've contributed lately is telling flamewheel how he formatted the coloring in his post wrong. (lol). I do realize though that last game, you were a blue and you were awfully quiet as well. But as Zona said before he died (RIP Zona!), keeping quiet only hinders the town in a game where there are no behavioral clues. So post your thoughts on what's going on? I like to work with people that I believe are town aligned and experienced and only speak out if I'm called upon or people are doing something that I think is stupid (i.e. lynching redtooth when QS was a confirmed sumiyoshi). | ||
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March 22 2010 03:16 GMT
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I won't be participating in a mafia for a while realizing how bad I am at defending myself and making insightful posts. All I can do is read other people's posts and follow bandwagons ![]() I'll be back! | ||
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