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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
February 10 2010 06:47 GMT
#1
It seems that every single person that live streams feels that they're the victim. No one can go by saying something about the stream without the streamer flipping out, pulling the most unreasonable hissy fit, and then banning everyone who says anything remotely "hurtful".

I mean SERIOUSLY?

Livestreamers are either the most uptight, self-righteous bastards or the whimpiest, most self-conscious individuals I have ever come into contact with.

I won't point out names *coughkonadoracough* but one livestreamer decided that they'd had enough of the viewers and decided to post a whiny blog talking about how their feelings were hurt and all that other pussy stuff.

And just now another streamer *coughrofflescough* decided to rage quit from streaming Oz vs CJ because ONE or TWO people said something about the stream lagging. He procedes to close chat and whine about how tough it is to stream. Shit dude, we're not criticizing you. Apparently all anyone has to do is say one itty-bitty thing for you to QQ yourself to sleep.

And I have to say, Roffles seems like a nice guy and livestreaming all this shit for us is great, but acting up over something so small is pretty ridiculous.

On another occasion, I said "dang OGN is lagging a lot today" and konadora decided to perm ban me. For what? I don't even know. I guess his feelings were hurt somehow indirectly. That's how big his feelings are. Careful guys, don't touch it.

Also, being an admin on livestream makes you the biggest dick ever.

Direct correlation.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
February 10 2010 06:50 GMT
#2
If I can figure out how to get a direct MBC stream I can stream more often (Right now I only have OGN)
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 10 2010 06:51 GMT
#3
9 out of every 10 viewers making comments on livestream typically bash the quality of said stream. How about this, livestream goes away, no one livestreams then you have to be dependent on people properly live reporting a thread like we used to, you know, the days where very few people could find streams?

Stop making a blog to bitch when you have no idea how much shit live streamers put up with, accept the service for what it is, someone trying to give back to the community by giving you something they love, rather than being total douchbags about it.
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Rufio
Profile Joined December 2009
241 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 06:54:09
February 10 2010 06:52 GMT
#4
I agree. Sometimes they even torture viewers with k-pop. I put it on mute most times now and also avoid the chat screen.
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520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
February 10 2010 06:54 GMT
#5
On February 10 2010 15:47 BanZu wrote:
It seems that every single person that live streams feels that they're the victim. No one can go by saying something about the stream without the streamer flipping out, pulling the most unreasonable hissy fit, and then banning everyone who says anything remotely "hurtful".

I mean SERIOUSLY?

Livestreamers are either the most uptight, self-righteous bastards or the whimpiest, most self-conscious individuals I have ever come into contact with.

I won't point out names *coughkonadoracough* but one livestreamer decided that they'd had enough of the viewers and decided to post a whiny blog talking about how their feelings were hurt and all that other pussy stuff.

And just now another streamer *coughrofflescough* decided to rage quit from streaming Oz vs CJ because ONE or TWO people said something about the stream lagging. He procedes to close chat and whine about how tough it is to stream. Shit dude, we're not criticizing you. Apparently all anyone has to do is say one itty-bitty thing for you to QQ yourself to sleep.

And I have to say, Roffles seems like a nice guy and livestreaming all this shit for us is great, but acting up over something so small is pretty ridiculous.

On another occasion, I said "dang OGN is lagging a lot today" and konadora decided to perm ban me. For what? I don't even know. I guess his feelings were hurt somehow indirectly. That's how big his feelings are. Careful guys, don't touch it.

Also, being an admin on livestream makes you the biggest dick ever.

Direct correlation.

You're blind if you think it's "one" or "two" people say things about the stream.

Every single time it buffers, the stream chat is FLOODED with people complaining about lag. Don't even get me started on the copious amounts of "power outage" jokes there were.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 10 2010 06:55 GMT
#6
On February 10 2010 15:52 Rufio wrote:
I agree. Sometimes they even torture viewers with k-pop. I put it on mute most times now and also avoid the chat screen.


don't use the service then. Accept what you are given, or make it better, dont complain about it.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33526 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 06:56:07
February 10 2010 06:55 GMT
#7
I don't understand why anyone would use livestream with the chat on, whether you're a viewer or the streamer.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
February 10 2010 06:56 GMT
#8
Oh sorry I'm such a big whiner bro, I'll fix that asap.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
February 10 2010 06:56 GMT
#9
it really doesn't take much effort to just ignore all the retards in chat.
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 06:57:51
February 10 2010 06:56 GMT
#10
On February 10 2010 15:47 BanZu wrote:
Livestreamers are either the most uptight, self-righteous bastards or the whimpiest, most self-conscious individuals I have ever come into contact with.

Apparently all anyone has to do is say one itty-bitty thing for you to QQ yourself to sleep.

And I have to say, Roffles seems like a nice guy and livestreaming all this shit for us is great, but acting up over something so small is pretty ridiculous.

Also, being an admin on livestream makes you the biggest dick ever.

Direct correlation.


you are a child.

are you seriously complaining about someone who provides a free service to you at a ridiculous hour for no reward whatsoever and puts up with thousands (not one or two) bitching internet trolls a week?

i can't believe someone as juvenile as you is allowed to legally vote.

appreciate what you have, and stop being such a brat in chat.

EDIT: i'm surprised at how many people are agreeing with the OP. you are all pathetic single children. this is unbelievable, I thought TL had more respectable people on it.
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 06:57:19
February 10 2010 06:57 GMT
#11
On February 10 2010 15:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
9 out of every 10 viewers making comments on livestream typically bash the quality of said stream. How about this, livestream goes away, no one livestreams then you have to be dependent on people properly live reporting a thread like we used to, you know, the days where very few people could find streams?

Stop making a blog to bitch when you have no idea how much shit live streamers put up with, accept the service for what it is, someone trying to give back to the community by giving you something they love, rather than being total douchbags about it.

Lol I'm not bitching. I just thought I'd bring it up. I'm not even one of the ones who act like douchebags who complain and spam and talk shit about people. -_-

Calm yourself, I'm embarrassed for you.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
February 10 2010 06:57 GMT
#12
I like what the streamers do, but i feel where you are coming from :\ .
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
February 10 2010 06:57 GMT
#13
On February 10 2010 15:55 Waxangel wrote:
I don't understand why anyone would use livestream with the chat on, whether you're a viewer or the streamer.

Amen to that, everytime I view it now it's chatless, when livestream first came onto TL I use to leave it but the people and their comments almost drove me insane.
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 07:00:14
February 10 2010 06:58 GMT
#14
On February 10 2010 15:56 Grobyc wrote:
Oh sorry I'm such a big whiner bro, I'll fix that asap.

You stream?

On February 10 2010 15:56 lazz wrote:
it really doesn't take much effort to just ignore all the retards in chat.

Exactly what I'm thinking!




For all those who think I'm complaining when streaming is a free service, I'm not. I IMMENSELY enjoy the streaming and I try my best not give flak to livestreamers.

But when they start acting like douches that NO ONE SHOULD EVER ACT LIKE, that is a COMPLETELY different matter.

I don't give a shit if you're my friend. If you act like a faggot, I will put you in your place for acting that way. Mostly depending on the situation but what I mentioned is what I would say crosses the line.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 07:01:14
February 10 2010 06:58 GMT
#15
It's not just one or two. The streams are filled with fucking idiots, it's like reading youtube comments. If one person complains and the mod tolerates it, there will be at least a hundred people jumping on the bandwagon, and then it'd be too hard to stop. It's much better to establish a rule beforehand and regulate the channel with an iron fist than let the channel be flooded with moronic comments.

I mean, there is really no point in saying "lag" because, everyone, especially the streamer, is aware of the problem, and it's clearly out of their control (in most cases).

I hate stream chat, it hurts my brains. I am so glad it's disabled.

e:

added emphasis
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 07:02:13
February 10 2010 06:58 GMT
#16
Why are all people watching livestreams such whiners?

I won't point out names *coughBANzucough*, but for some reason everyone who watches and chats in livestreams seems to think they're entitled to quality eSports coverage from across the globe. Apparently all the stream has to do is have a little bit of lag for you to annoy everyone else.

Then they make bad blogs.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
February 10 2010 06:59 GMT
#17
On February 10 2010 15:58 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2010 15:56 Grobyc wrote:
Oh sorry I'm such a big whiner bro, I'll fix that asap.

You stream?


Yes, he does, quite a bit too
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bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 07:03:02
February 10 2010 06:59 GMT
#18
On February 10 2010 15:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
9 out of every 10 viewers making comments on livestream typically bash the quality of said stream. How about this, livestream goes away, no one livestreams then you have to be dependent on people properly live reporting a thread like we used to, you know, the days where very few people could find streams?

Stop making a blog to bitch when you have no idea how much shit live streamers put up with, accept the service for what it is, someone trying to give back to the community by giving you something they love, rather than being total douchbags about it.


What BC said.

Seriously many of you take these guys for granted. You don't have to point out the obvious. If it lags; it lags. There is nothing you can do to change it.

P.S. I would say the viewers whine and bitch just as much as the streamers you mentioned.

Deal with it.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
February 10 2010 06:59 GMT
#19
Actually no, I'm not even going to stick with that sarcastic remark.
On February 10 2010 15:52 Rufio wrote:
I agree. Sometimes they even torture viewers with k-pop. I put it on mute most times now and also avoid the chat screen.

They stream at their own will your know. They are allowed to play music they like to listen to, and no one forces you to tune in. IN FACT, some other generous people have even provided guides for you to get direct stream sources so you have the option of

a) shutting the fuck up, and taking what free services there are to offer.

or

b) doing the god damn work yourself to get a stream that pleases you.

take your fucking pick. if you get banned then you are left with option b, which you would have had in the first god damn place if there was no streaming anyway, so you're not any better by bitching about shit like this in a blog than the person who you ragged on about doing the same shit.
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rinoh
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States335 Posts
February 10 2010 07:01 GMT
#20
Seriously people? They are doing you a free service, they don't have to be nice or put up with your shit. They can play whatever music they want, stop complaining. Go find another stream then if you don't like the admins.
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