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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
February 10 2010 07:09 GMT
#41
On February 10 2010 16:08 BanZu wrote:
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On February 10 2010 16:06 mOnion wrote:
On February 10 2010 15:58 BanZu wrote:
On February 10 2010 15:56 Grobyc wrote:
Oh sorry I'm such a big whiner bro, I'll fix that asap.

You stream?

On February 10 2010 15:56 lazz wrote:
it really doesn't take much effort to just ignore all the retards in chat.

Exactly what I'm thinking!




For all those who think I'm complaining when streaming is a free service, I'm not. I IMMENSELY enjoy the streaming and I try my best not give flak to livestreamers.

But when they start acting like douches that NO ONE SHOULD EVER ACT LIKE, that is a COMPLETELY different matter.

I don't give a shit if you're my friend. If you act like a faggot, I will put you in your place for acting that way. Mostly depending on the situation but what I mentioned is what I would say crosses the line.


its that fantastic use of vocabulary that really drives your point home.

I think all the streamers should stop immediately in response to this garbage. just because its the "internet" doesnt make it okay for people to be ungrateful.

Uh... lol

I'd just like to say that you're missing my point


how in the world could i possibly be missing your point?
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Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
February 10 2010 07:10 GMT
#42
On February 10 2010 16:04 deathgod6 wrote:
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On February 10 2010 15:55 Waxangel wrote:
I don't understand why anyone would use livestream with the chat on, whether you're a viewer or the streamer.

Mystlord has translators, so I like to watch it on tv.zeroboy to see what the commentators are saying. Other than that though, the chat is annoying, and I do know what the OP means about the livestreamers and especially about the admins. They complain about everyone being annoying but when the chat is muted, they enjoy being the only ones talking.


Do you see the admins muting chat and doing power outrage memes once every 30 second?
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
February 10 2010 07:12 GMT
#43
Why did you make a blog about something that obviously doesn't concern you?
Why do you guys complain about streamers when we do this for you guys?

When you see a string of comments saying "FUCK YOU SUCK" or "FUCK BUFFER" or "JESUS CHRIST STREAM" it really ticks you off. The active streamers are devoting freaking 3 hours per night for you guys. We could be doing other things. We could watch the VODs in our free time. But no, we did it during fucking finals week and we do it when we're tired as shit. And you viewers who wouldn't have a stream without us come into our stream and fucking flame us? I don't care what you guys think, but any of those above statements are flames. They imply that we're the ones at fault. That we can fucking fix it. That we could care less about the buffer and that you guys can rot? I don't care who the hell you are, but we expect at least some basic courtesy from you guys.
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
February 10 2010 07:13 GMT
#44
On February 10 2010 16:04 deathgod6 wrote:
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On February 10 2010 15:55 Waxangel wrote:
I don't understand why anyone would use livestream with the chat on, whether you're a viewer or the streamer.

Mystlord has translators, so I like to watch it on tv.zeroboy to see what the commentators are saying. Other than that though, the chat is annoying, and I do know what the OP means about the livestreamers and especially about the admins. They complain about everyone being annoying but when the chat is muted, they enjoy being the only ones talking.


Streamers bought a pool that they let 1000 people use every other day or so, but all the people who use the pool leave trash everywhere and pee in the pool, break the diving board etc. So they lock the gate and don't let us use the pool. But when we're not in the pool, we see them enjoying playing in their own pool!

how DARE they!
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deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
February 10 2010 07:13 GMT
#45
On February 10 2010 16:06 Cambium wrote:
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On February 10 2010 16:04 deathgod6 wrote:
On February 10 2010 15:55 Waxangel wrote:
I don't understand why anyone would use livestream with the chat on, whether you're a viewer or the streamer.

Mystlord has translators, so I like to watch it on tv.zeroboy to see what the commentators are saying. Other than that though, the chat is annoying, and I do know what the OP means about the livestreamers and especially about the admins. They complain about everyone being annoying but when the chat is muted, they enjoy being the only ones talking.


Are you saying they get special privileges because they provide everyone a valuable service?

no wai

No, most of the admins don't do shit but ban people they feel like banning. Roffle's admins are simply there because they share his K-pop enthusiasm (I don't mind K-pop at all btw). It's the fact that practice a double standard.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33339 Posts
February 10 2010 07:14 GMT
#46
I think if this blog was titled "fuck you roffles," it would have delivered the OP's point more accurately and lead to a more entertaining discussion for all involved.
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
February 10 2010 07:14 GMT
#47
Hey Mystlord I appreciate your live reports in the LR threads, but can you stop posting it in caps, I know you're excited but it gets really annoying. Thanks.
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DeathSpank
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1029 Posts
February 10 2010 07:14 GMT
#48
I really like the livestream chat. I mean sure its a flaming troll fest but its great for when you want to talk about the game and it gives a greater sense of community.
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
February 10 2010 07:15 GMT
#49
On February 10 2010 15:52 Rufio wrote:
I agree. Sometimes they even torture viewers with k-pop. I put it on mute most times now and also avoid the chat screen.

good for you. jackass.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 07:15:46
February 10 2010 07:15 GMT
#50
On February 10 2010 16:12 Mystlord wrote:
Why did you make a blog about something that obviously doesn't concern you?
Why do you guys complain about streamers when we do this for you guys?

When you see a string of comments saying "FUCK YOU SUCK" or "FUCK BUFFER" or "JESUS CHRIST STREAM" it really ticks you off. The active streamers are devoting freaking 3 hours per night for you guys. We could be doing other things. We could watch the VODs in our free time. But no, we did it during fucking finals week and we do it when we're tired as shit. And you viewers who wouldn't have a stream without us come into our stream and fucking flame us? I don't care what you guys think, but any of those above statements are flames. They imply that we're the ones at fault. That we can fucking fix it. That we could care less about the buffer and that you guys can rot? I don't care who the hell you are, but we expect at least some basic courtesy from you guys.

Ah I see. You're doing it out of some feeling of duty.

No wonder you guys rage so much.

If you don't want to do it, then don't. Easy as that.

Btw, some of you guys are wussies for taking everything so seriously lulz. Don't take things so personally. How are you going to get along in life when every little prick makes you cry.
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Mr.Felix
Profile Joined July 2009
United States7 Posts
February 10 2010 07:15 GMT
#51
I have to admit that I find it pretty awesome when Roffles stream is getting flooded with constant stupid messages and Roffles turns off the chat and lets them know how damn annoying they are. Roffles reacts how any sane, intelligent person would. If you don't like how the streamers act on their own stream then find a new damn stream. Good luck!
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 10 2010 07:17 GMT
#52
On February 10 2010 16:15 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2010 16:12 Mystlord wrote:
Why did you make a blog about something that obviously doesn't concern you?
Why do you guys complain about streamers when we do this for you guys?

When you see a string of comments saying "FUCK YOU SUCK" or "FUCK BUFFER" or "JESUS CHRIST STREAM" it really ticks you off. The active streamers are devoting freaking 3 hours per night for you guys. We could be doing other things. We could watch the VODs in our free time. But no, we did it during fucking finals week and we do it when we're tired as shit. And you viewers who wouldn't have a stream without us come into our stream and fucking flame us? I don't care what you guys think, but any of those above statements are flames. They imply that we're the ones at fault. That we can fucking fix it. That we could care less about the buffer and that you guys can rot? I don't care who the hell you are, but we expect at least some basic courtesy from you guys.

Ah I see. You're doing it out of some feeling of duty.

No wonder you guys rage so much.

If you don't want to do it, then don't. Easy as that.

Btw, some of you guys are wussies for taking everything so seriously lulz. Don't take things so personally. How are you going to get along in life when every little prick makes you cry.

remind me that you made this post on stream chat in one of the streams im a moderator on

not because im actually offended

just for the hilarity and esports drama
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
February 10 2010 07:17 GMT
#53
On February 10 2010 16:15 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2010 16:12 Mystlord wrote:
Why did you make a blog about something that obviously doesn't concern you?
Why do you guys complain about streamers when we do this for you guys?

When you see a string of comments saying "FUCK YOU SUCK" or "FUCK BUFFER" or "JESUS CHRIST STREAM" it really ticks you off. The active streamers are devoting freaking 3 hours per night for you guys. We could be doing other things. We could watch the VODs in our free time. But no, we did it during fucking finals week and we do it when we're tired as shit. And you viewers who wouldn't have a stream without us come into our stream and fucking flame us? I don't care what you guys think, but any of those above statements are flames. They imply that we're the ones at fault. That we can fucking fix it. That we could care less about the buffer and that you guys can rot? I don't care who the hell you are, but we expect at least some basic courtesy from you guys.

Ah I see. You're doing it out of some feeling of duty.

No wonder you guys rage so much.

If you don't want to do it, then don't. Easy as that.

Btw, some of you guys are wussies for taking everything so seriously lulz. Don't take things so personally. How are you going to get along in life when every little prick makes you cry.


you have SUCH a masculinity complex, christ.

all this wussies, cry, faggots, bitches talk is disgusting dude.

no one is impressed that you don't have any emotions mkay? outside of your football truck testosterone soaked world, other humans actually take things personally.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22253 Posts
February 10 2010 07:37 GMT
#54
Christ.

Why must everyone, on both sides, take such a beautiful thing meant for good and bash it to a fucking pulp?

TBH - I was on Roffles stream when he, IMO, completely overreacted to maybe a handful of people out of hundreds that were otherwise perfectly content. I thought it was pretty childish to be honest. But in all seriousness, I don't know what led up to that... bad night? People badgering him in the chat before that particular game? Maybe lots of complainers the night before? I don't know. All I do know is that people like him and Mystlord and others stream nearly every goddamn night, so you know what? I'm going to cut him some slack.

Everyone is so quick to complain and tear people down. I can only imagine investing my time into something, only to have someone, even if it's a single person, just disregard my efforts like a spoiled brat. Livestream unfortunately suffers from the same problem that 4chan relishes in; anonymity and lack of individual accountability.

Seeing as there is really no feasible way to tie TL logins with Livestream IDs, I think as long as the chat remains open, this will always be a problem. I would absolutely encourage all Livestreamers to permanently disable chat if you feel the comments getting to you. Like it or not, when you're closing down streams in the middle of a match, yes, you're 'sticking it to' the few unappreciative idiots that ruined it in the first place, but you're also screwing over hundreds of eager, on-the-edge-of-their-seat fans who are just trying to watch some SC, which is the reason you guys started doing this in the first place. And even though you're doing this on your own free time, that's still an extremely disrespectful thing to do.

I digress... What we really need is a way to tie TL logins to steam ID's. The banhammer can keep out of the riff raff that way.
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