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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 11 2009 11:51 GMT
#11
I was debating whether or not saying Hanuel L. Mackson was stupid. It kinda works.

Oh and I'll do this.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 16 2009 18:43 GMT
#17
This would be so awesome right now because there's pretty much no Starcraft for the whole week.

Or I could, y'know, do homework.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 04 2010 06:20 GMT
#58
I'm in. Got to review the rules. Will post if I see anything I don't like.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 04 2010 22:44 GMT
#64
Judge I don't really have a problem with the two rules, you just need to adjust to them. For instance, if you want to put your vote on someone early but don't want to end the day early you could just say your vote is on someone but you don't want to end the day early, or something to that effect. Make it crystal clear that your vote is there even though it's not technically there. Or give a FOS. Or whatever.

I really can't think of a situation where a self-vote is needed. Can you help me out here?
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 05 2010 10:47 GMT
#78
Just for the record. Can we wait to see who the fuck is actually inactive before deciding who we are going to kill for inactivity?


Word. I actually plan to play this game through.

I'm really surprised it was Vivi who first said to kill me and not L, considering how often I seem to get L killed.


Also isn't NemY the one that's supposed to claim medic on day one? Last time this happened the town got in a major BS argument day 1 and then won when our mafia leader ragequit because Vivi logged in 2 minutes late.

Oh wait he claimed detective. Maybe this will turn out better.

I guess the evidence points to killing Vivi.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 05 2010 11:25 GMT
#81
Relax. It wasn't a serious argument. I'm not worried about Vivi's suggestion at all.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 05 2010 18:42 GMT
#86
I personally don't see the point of Judge's claim either. It sounds to me like he's trying something out for the sake of seeing how it goes. He did mention playing 5 mafia games at once before the game started. Let's look at his points.

1) The mafia have to play a guessing game anyway, it's just that now they know who they're guessing against. I suppose now they KNOW they're playing this game rather than knowing whether or not the game exists at all, but I don't see how that helps the town. I agree with Ace that it is extremely unlikely that there would be more than one medic in this game. If there were the mafia would have to get some powers to make up for it, and we know that's not the case.

I also noticed that the medic can protect himself. That is an exceptionally powerful weapon in my opinion, and another reason why there's unlikely to be two medics in the game. As mafia, Judge could be banking on the idea that there aren't any medics in the game and using this play to waste town resources.

I am interested in this list he'd put out, especially for day 1. It kind of sounds like a hit list though. "HEY MAFIA! KILL THESE! I DARE YOU!!!"

2) I really don't see how this is different with or without a list. There are always good and bad candidates for night-killing and those factors are always influenced by the power roles. A list kind of gives the mafia a guide, in your opinion anyway, as to who is the most trusted in the town. I'm really not seeing this major wrench.

3) They might do that. That'd be pretty ballsy considering that's exactly what you just said they'd do, like it's their only choice. Or this could be your way of defense through day 1, casting suspicion on anyone who even remotely calls you out.

So yeah, I don't see the point, and it is hard to take your claim seriously. Best I can figure you're trying to stir the pot early to make the game more interesting.


Speaking of making the game more interesting, let's talk about who to kill day 1. Well it's kind of a crapshoot right now so I oddly agree with Vivi in that we should be lynching inactives. Moreso, we should be threatening to lynch anyone who doesn't post by the end of one full day, real time. And not just post, you need to offer an opinion too. Offering an opinion on something really shouldn't be hard right now. Basically I'm giving the same warning to everyone that L gave to me and HeavOn. Contribute or die, you don't get another warning.

That warning is at the end of a lot of words, so I'll say it like this.

CONTRIBUTE OR DIE. YOU DON'T GET ANOTHER WARNING.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 05 2010 20:38 GMT
#94
On January 06 2010 04:43 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:@Scamp - I think I covered your points in my responses to L, so I'm not going to re-hash them if that's cool with you.


That's fine for now. I'll see if you missed anything when I'm not just on a short break.

On January 06 2010 05:04 L wrote:
What's more worrisome here, however, is the fact that the rules state that as a medic, you won't be told if your protection target has actually been protected, nor will they be told that they have been protected. If you're mafia, that means you can fake a 'confirmation' on yourself by stating that you protected, say, me while not hitting anyone for a night.


Is the mafia allowed to not hit anyone during the night?
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 06 2010 02:26 GMT
#125
On January 06 2010 09:18 Malongo wrote:
-I really dont see the point in RoLs post and i dont like the fact that scamp came up just 10 minutes later to support his own defence. How did RoL knew scamp wasnt inactive? Why is RoL too lazy to read tonight but has his time to half defend scamp? Maybe this is just a coincidence but since we are lynching almost on blind i like RoL. At least we can autofire at scamp if RoL flips red.


I thought the point in RoL's post was pretty obvious: shouldn't we wait and see who's inactive before we target specific people for inactivity? I came on and agreed, the fact that Vivi was targeting me was just coincidence. I don't think that his post implies in any way that he knew I wasn't inactive. Also it was 20 minutes and not 10.

But yeah, RoL's only posted once so far, and the point he made doesn't really make a difference in the game. A few other people have only posted once offering nothing of significance, and if this continues for much longer I say we target them.


On January 06 2010 05:58 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +

What's more worrisome here, however, is the fact that the rules state that as a medic, you won't be told if your protection target has actually been protected, nor will they be told that they have been protected. If you're mafia, that means you can fake a 'confirmation' on yourself by stating that you protected, say, me while not hitting anyone for a night.

isn't that kind of risky? provided judge doesn't openly claim who he was protecting , if he listed ace and L and himself for protection, and ace was mafia, for example-

ace: Oh hey guys i was protected last night lololol
judge: uh no, i protected myself
ace: oh
ace: .. FUUUU


This scenerio doesn't make any sense to me at all. I can't think of a single reason why Ace would say that if Judge isn't mafia.

Now if Ace and Judge were both mafia and Judge clamed that he protected Ace, that's the play that "clears" Judge (and Ace too) that we're worried about happening.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 06 2010 17:13 GMT
#139
RoL does bring up some good points, and Ace and L both agree with me that overall Judge's claim is probably a dumb move. As I see it it's ballsy at best and bad at worst.

*Off-topic* RoL I don't think you should criticize someone's spelling unless you want to be criticized for your mistakes too. So: You're = you are. Your = possessive. If you can say "you are" in place of "your" in the sentence and it makes sense, you used the wrong one.

Sorry, I like to be a grammar nazi even though my spelling is atrocious. */Off-topic*


Anyway, I'd like to point this out.

On January 06 2010 04:43 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
I'm a medic though. And I'm trying to do something different because I've seen it work, I've seen this tactic in play. Besides, as odd of a defense as it is, this is nowhere near my scum meta, even if I was GF. I much prefer to push attention away from myself, because I'm prone to fuckups if I try and be too active.


Some links would be nice. I'd like to see this tactic in play and see it work well.


Chezinu needs to post more or he's getting my vote. I do like Zato's analysis on Malongo too so I'd like to see his response to that. I'm also keeping my eye on a few other people, hopefully they'll post today.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 06 2010 21:11 GMT
#153
On January 07 2010 05:55 Ace wrote:
No one has ever gotten a free pass for role claiming on Day 1 and those were almost always Detective claims. So why are we letting a Medic claim go?


Because no matter what Judge really is we have the opportunity for some exceptional information. At the very least, I'm inclined to keep him around because he's got a plan he's going to put into action for better or for worse. Meanwhile there are several people who clearly aren't going to do jack shit, and it's very likely that there's at least one mafia in that group of people.


I agree with what Zato said about voting for people, I just don't think there's enough on Malongo to vote for him right now. That being said, I also don't expect much to go on on day 1 either. It's now about 1PM PST. Voting ends at 8PM PST. If Malongo (also Chezinu, for that matter) doesn't post anything by 5PM PST I'm voting for him, since I'm going to be gone from 5PM onwards.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 07 2010 00:54 GMT
#204
On January 07 2010 06:25 Ace wrote:
what exceptional information? I really want to know this.


To answer this question from way back, I have no idea what exceptional information. Judge says he's going to work his magic, that'll provide exceptional information one way or another. Perhaps I dressed up the wording too much.


Anyway, I personally do not have a strong read on anybody at this point. I do not see the strength of the argument against Malongo, but if there's a tie between him and Judge at the end of the day I wouldn't be opposed to lynching him in that case.

My strongest suspicion right now, however, is Mikeymoo. "Strongest suspicion" is kind of a misnomer since I don't have a strong read on anybody, but something about his posts so far have given me suspicion. I think he's being overly careful not to attract attention to himself while trying to provide some content.

I will be able to get back to my computer about 20 minutes before the deadline. I'll make any necessary vote changes then.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 07 2010 03:50 GMT
#273
I just got back and I finished reading the thread.

Also: Hi NemY!


The only thing I don't want is a no-lynch. I'd prefer Malongo over Judge. I think those are my only options.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 07 2010 03:53 GMT
#277
No lynch = no information at all. That's the worst result IMO.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 07 2010 03:59 GMT
#286
Because I want information. I don't want another day one.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 07 2010 04:02 GMT
#291
I'm very sure my motivations will be questioned a lot.

I don't think I've been ultra-tight. I just haven't gotten a strong read on anyone, though my gut says Mikey.

Thanks for correcting your own grammar.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 07 2010 04:04 GMT
#294
Also please find those links I asked for a while back.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 07 2010 04:13 GMT
#302
On January 07 2010 13:06 Malongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 13:02 Scamp wrote:
I'm very sure my motivations will be questioned a lot.

I don't think I've been ultra-tight. I just haven't gotten a strong read on anyone, though my gut says Mikey.

Thanks for correcting your own grammar.

you just got out of nowhere to change your vote.


I got out of the gym, actually. And now that I think about it you didn't save yourself, which means you're town. Which means I fucked up.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 07 2010 04:32 GMT
#312
On January 07 2010 13:25 Ace wrote:
Either way I'm going to start going back through this whole debacle. But right now my top suspects:

Judge, obviously ^_^
Scamp and Chezinu because of the last minute voting and flip flopping
Zato-1 because he was the one who proposed lynching Malongo in the midst of the Judge debacle


Yes, I would be very surprised if I wasn't heavily interrogated day 2 for my actions at the end of day one.

I would like to know, however, your opinions of my decision to try to avoid a no-lynch. No one commented on this. I think that a no-lynch is worse than any lynch day one.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 08 2010 06:37 GMT
#364
Well I do still have a suspicion of Mikey but there's a lot that needs to be discussed before I vote for him.

Judge has a plan.

L mentioned something about confirming Judge.

Ace is going to go apeshit.

And Zato's post above mine is quite curious.
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