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Critical loss
Profile Joined October 2010
France31 Posts
November 21 2010 11:19 GMT
#1
based on his post in playxp: http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=2354027&page=2

In this post he said "I'm considering changing my race. Please recommend the race which

seems to be more suitable for me"

He thinks protoss is so underpowered that no one playing protoss can actually win the

tournament like GSL.


TMTurtle
Profile Joined August 2010
183 Posts
November 21 2010 11:21 GMT
#2
So if previous trends hold true, Genius should take the tournament this season.

Congrats NEXGenius.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
November 21 2010 11:21 GMT
#3
fuck me sideways man wtf
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
November 21 2010 11:23 GMT
#4
On November 21 2010 20:21 Silidons wrote:
fuck me sideways man wtf


LOL!!!! I laugh at the people calling me stupid that i switched from Toss to Terran when retail hit

HAHA!
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
November 21 2010 11:23 GMT
#5
So Blizzard has to make a decison.

Nerf Terran -> Boxer wants to switch
Nerf Toss (Or dont make them stronger) -> Genius wants to switch

But btw, Any more infos on this? Did he say something about specific units or matchups?
Everyone knows that atm it is impossible for any Toss to win GSL so I wonder if there was some more specific talk?!
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
lol12tree
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada88 Posts
November 21 2010 11:24 GMT
#6
Well sSKS has already been saying that TvP all-in timing pushes are over powered in one of the playxp interviews during his fail to qualify in GSL2 (not 3). I have no definitive source on this so don't quote me.

What we do know is that sSKS won the TSL Clan Tournament defeating SangHo in the finals.
TesteR changed his race to Terran to TvP SangHo and won.

I would like to see a Terran change to protoss to PvT a high level Terran.

Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
November 21 2010 11:25 GMT
#7
Congratulations in advance NEX,
needs a bit more balance whining though.

Jokes aside, I'm not really sure what to think of protoss right now. But I dont think they're underpowered.
Badjez.
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden56 Posts
November 21 2010 11:25 GMT
#8
Why do i feel like this has happened before? Hmm...

Oh well, it worked for Fruitdealer so i guess we will see some protoss buffs soon.
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
November 21 2010 11:25 GMT
#9
This is so sad.. Can top players STOP CRYING IN THE OPEN. :<

We all rage and have our moments, but I mean it's pretty damn obvious Protoss is in a spot where Zerg was before the reaper/bunker and roach range upgrade. Toss is unforgiving (4-gate aside which is very uncommon at the very highest level because it's not that hard to stop) and can be abused quite hard by the other races, but there will appear better and more refined builds and that will even out the playing field eventually. Maybe there will also be a tiny buff who knows..

Anyway, I just fucking hate when they cry like this..
Mada Mada Dane
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 11:26:51
November 21 2010 11:26 GMT
#10
On November 21 2010 20:23 Sewi wrote:
So Blizzard has to make a decison.

Nerf Terran -> Boxer wants to switch
Nerf Toss (Or dont make them stronger) -> Genius wants to switch

But btw, Any more infos on this? Did he say something about specific units or matchups?
Everyone knows that atm it is impossible for any Toss to win GSL so I wonder if there was some more specific talk?!

AND
Nerf Zerg ->Fruitdealer, Idra and dimaga want to switch (and TLO chose T i guess)
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 11:28:20
November 21 2010 11:26 GMT
#11
On November 21 2010 20:24 lol12tree wrote:
Well sSKS has already been saying that TvP all-in timing pushes are over powered in one of the playxp interviews during his fail to qualify in GSL2 (not 3). I have no definitive source on this so don't quote me.

What we do know is that sSKS won the TSL Clan Tournament defeating SangHo in the finals.
TesteR changed his race to Terran to TvP SangHo and won.

I would like to see a Terran change to protoss to PvT a high level Terran.



Thats pretty strong argument if he beats own race by offracing.

On topic: Terrans suits Genius better
Its grack
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6119 Posts
November 21 2010 11:28 GMT
#12
Don't wanna sound like a troll but I've been saying this since day1, Marauders are the biggest joke of a unit ever.

Unless you have enough forcefields or have a heavily larger army, marauders mean that your units cannot escape and you generally lose your whole army in 2 seconds if you accidentally engage.
#1 Terran hater
Ramble
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden877 Posts
November 21 2010 11:28 GMT
#13
I am sort of in the same situation, but i am willing to wait for the patch before i make a decision. If there is considerable nerfs for Protoss without buffs to compensate i am switching, but it's not horrendous to play P.
lol12tree
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada88 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 11:32:08
November 21 2010 11:28 GMT
#14
On November 21 2010 20:26 bokeevboke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2010 20:24 lol12tree wrote:
Well sSKS has already been saying that TvP all-in timing pushes are over powered in one of the playxp interviews during his fail to qualify in GSL2 (not 3). I have no definitive source on this so don't quote me.

What we do know is that sSKS won the TSL Clan Tournament defeating SangHo in the finals.
TesteR changed his race to Terran to TvP SangHo and won.

I would like to see a Terran change to protoss to PvT a high level Terran.



Thats pretty strong argument if he beats own race by offracing.

Here it is , GOMTV Clan Special : http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens2/news/264
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=167318&currentpage=All
(seriously, so much for the "TesteR" is over hyped, hes #1 in TSL but enough of side tracking)

On November 11 2010 23:19 adrift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2010 22:55 KiNGxXx wrote:
Just tuned in. Can somebody post the results so far please?


Tester > Rain
Cool > Eternal
Clide > Revival
Sangho > Smart

Tester > Cool
Sangho > Clide

Tester v Sangho now

pretty cool how they have the players casting their teammates. FD casting for tester v sangho

On November 11 2010 23:38 Blitzmarine wrote:
Here is rough translation of thier last chating;

Tester : Oh yeah, Terran imba.

Sangho : Yes, it really is.


Apparently SangHo & TesteR both believe Terran > Protoss
(not suprising as they train together, if one found out new builds to counteract, the other would certainly learn )

You can watch those games here apparently
http://www.soku.com/search_video/q_gomtv星际2special_orderby_1_page_2.html

bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
November 21 2010 11:29 GMT
#15
On November 21 2010 20:28 Highways wrote:
Don't wanna sound like a troll but I've been saying this since day1, Marauders are the biggest joke of a unit ever.

Unless you have enough forcefields or have a heavily larger army, marauders mean that your units cannot escape and you generally lose your whole army in 2 seconds if you accidentally engage.


Actually marines are the problem if you test it and according to Blizzard.
Its grack
Panoptic
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom515 Posts
November 21 2010 11:30 GMT
#16
I don't know about you guys but I'm getting kind of tired of big-name players constantly threatening to switch. It seems...just...a bit pathetic. I know a lot of players make their living from this game, so balance is more important to them than anyone. It's just that it fuels the masses into going: "see! my race is UP QQ" etc etc. It harms the community and adds unnecessary fuel to the fire. And whilst toss might very well be UP, I can't help but be cynical about their motives for making these announcements.

If you're planning on switching, why not just keep quiet about it?
"Crom laughs at your four winds!"
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
November 21 2010 11:31 GMT
#17
These race changers are pretty disgraceful, they just need to stick to one race especially since they have already put thousands of hours into that race.

Most of them almost always never change in the end because Blizzard would release a patch that addresses their issue with the race. Just stay patient and persevere. SC2 is still too new for Blizzard to ignore.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
Critical loss
Profile Joined October 2010
France31 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 11:36:46
November 21 2010 11:31 GMT
#18
Even tester and Inca said that they're considering changing theire races because of imbalance
on Gisado stream chat.
Xanatoss
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany539 Posts
November 21 2010 11:32 GMT
#19
Nah! Protoss can take one or two more rounds of nerfs. Cmon guys, we are used to it!
scnr
The chair slowly turns around. You see his face, but it can't be. He's not supposed to be here. Not him. Not a Protoss. Not THAT Protoss. MC says, "Hi Greg, long time no see." You back slowly out of the booth. But you can't. It's already forcefielded.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
November 21 2010 11:32 GMT
#20
i feel their pain, hopefully blizzard will fix protoss.
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