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Abenson
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On April 03 2010 20:27 Elemenope wrote: You seem to be confused. I'm not interested about the fact that there are multiple people role claiming as 'Veteran'. What I'm more interested about is the fact that these same two roles have different abilities, yet you seem to be fine with this. We have you who claimed to be hit during the night, yet you are wondering if Iaaan's claim of a free nuke block during the day is true or not, going so far as to launch a nuke at him. Yet Iaaan is also claiming to be a veteran with a free nuke block and a free night hit block, and you don't find this surprising even when he roleclaimed the same role as you? You seem quite casual about this and I can only guess that due to the difference of abilities of the same claimed roles: One or both of you are lying about your roleclaims. Yeah, except that laaan said that he will survive nukes yesterday, and I nuked him before he claimed veteran. You assume we have different abilities because he's assuming so, based on information I said I want to withhold. | ||
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haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
Looks like forcing people to roleclaim is actually working. Both laaan and Nikon has claimed Veteran but with conflicting testimonies about its ability- at least one of them is likely to be Mafia. Actually, I am convinced to believe laaan's claim is more legit. This is because he came forward with accusation that could easily turn against him- this is an exceedingly great pro-town move. I mean laaan's action definitely sounds more favourable than that of Nikon who just replied it was information he simply chose to withheld, which is clearly poor choice because other Veteran (Nikon should have known this from laaan's roleclaim) would have surely come forward to report the contradiction. However, I think Caller is better target for the lynch today. He lurks in the town and pops out when he is at chopping block because of it. He roleclaimed so there is no longer any reason for him to lurk. So why is he continuing to be unuseful to the town? He clearly is the most likely Mafia target we have at the moment. Also, Abenson. What the hell? Are you serious? | ||
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Nikon
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
why do you guys keep nuking each other without making sure with the town what is wrong with everyone i hate you al | ||
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Infundibulum
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Infundibulum
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Elemenope
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
On April 04 2010 00:21 Nikon wrote: Yeah, except that laaan said that he will survive nukes yesterday, and I nuked him before he claimed veteran. You assume we have different abilities because he's assuming so, based on information I said I want to withhold. What was the point in nuking him? Let's assume these things: A) You are a veteran B) Veteran ability entails a free night hit which is standard, but not as standard: a free nuke hit C) Nobody mentions that they are immune to a single nuke hit until Iaaan mentions it Given these three things, you still launch a nuke at Iaaan when only B is something Veterans could know. Iaaan could've guessed the ability, thinking it makes sense given that given that nukes are in the hands of 22 people, somebody ought to have nuke protection, even if it is a one-shot ability; however, the chance of this is very slim in my eyes, especially coupled with the fact that he says On April 03 2010 06:46 Iaaan wrote: It will hit, but it wont kill me. Do you have nuke protection to? and are you arctica? in response to you role claiming Veteran. He clearly says that veterans also have a one-shot day nuke protection. Yet you go ahead and nuke him and choose to withhold your capabilities even while roleclaiming? You realize the problem with this, right? On top of this, you claim that your missile is fake which accomplishes absolutely nothing in terms of confirming whether Iaaan is truly veteran or not as his ability, which you should know, blocks a nuke hit because, as Iaaan puts it which you are also implying by not denying the fact that veterans have a one-shot nuke protection, it gives an extra life against nukes which means an actual nuke has to hit. Because of this, your only purpose in sending that nuke is to accomplish one of two things: A) Burn up an antinuke which you did so well with your first nuke, or B) Burn up a veteran's extra nuke protection Both of which do not help the town at all. So perhaps you could explain why you thought that someone stating he possesses an ability that hasn't been mentioned by anybody until then which somehow conveniently matches your ability would deserve a nuke in order to prove this ability? If he's not veteran: congratulations, you probably killed scum since he lied, but this means you also lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If he is veteran: you burned his day protection and you lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If your missile is a dud: you accomplished nothing at all in terms of extra information for the town and we have no confirmation of your first missile. What was really going through your mind when you decided to nuke Iaaan? | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On April 04 2010 01:08 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: well actually Abenson is just extending the day if his nukes were truthfully stolen No....That bitch is trying to kill me.... Nah...actually I told him to nuke me....He replied "....Wtf?" Then nuked me....Little fucker...Lol.. <3 Anyway....About the Nikon/Iaaan situation....Unless it's possible Versatile was hit by both, mafia and SK, unless we have a medic left Nikon is being truthful. He claimed he took a hit last night. We need more information on that situation to make a good judgment call. Highly suspect, but Nikon, Iaaan's request about asking if you have Nuke protection, makes perfect sense, because he would know what Veterans roles contain. He came out and posted his role, posting a true claim. Infund have you claimed? I'm curious as to all of these people coming out and voting now, without claiming. I believe the town has spoken and demanded role claims. Well, hop to it, or it will be another endless day that will show everyone that refuses to post their roles being killed. Also, all you last minute voters. Hi. How are you guys. Nice to see you come out and vote now... ## Vote No Lynch I'm going to check for the rest of the claims right now. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On April 04 2010 01:15 Elemenope wrote: What was the point in nuking him? Let's assume these things: A) You are a veteran B) Veteran ability entails a free night hit which is standard, but not as standard: a free nuke hit C) Nobody mentions that they are immune to a single nuke hit until Iaaan mentions it Given these three things, you still launch a nuke at Iaaan when only B is something Veterans could know. Iaaan could've guessed the ability, thinking it makes sense given that given that nukes are in the hands of 22 people, somebody ought to have nuke protection, even if it is a one-shot ability; however, the chance of this is very slim in my eyes, especially coupled with the fact that he says in response to you role claiming Veteran. He clearly says that veterans also have a one-shot day nuke protection. Yet you go ahead and nuke him and choose to withhold your capabilities even while roleclaiming? You realize the problem with this, right? On top of this, you claim that your missile is fake which accomplishes absolutely nothing in terms of confirming whether Iaaan is truly veteran or not as his ability, which you should know, blocks a nuke hit because, as Iaaan puts it which you are also implying by not denying the fact that veterans have a one-shot nuke protection, it gives an extra life against nukes which means an actual nuke has to hit. Because of this, your only purpose in sending that nuke is to accomplish one of two things: A) Burn up an antinuke which you did so well with your first nuke, or B) Burn up a veteran's extra nuke protection Both of which do not help the town at all. So perhaps you could explain why you thought that someone stating he possesses an ability that hasn't been mentioned by anybody until then which somehow conveniently matches your ability would deserve a nuke in order to prove this ability? If he's not veteran: congratulations, you probably killed scum since he lied, but this means you also lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If he is veteran: you burned his day protection and you lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If your missile is a dud: you accomplished nothing at all in terms of extra information for the town and we have no confirmation of your first missile. What was really going through your mind when you decided to nuke Iaaan? Did also notice how both haster and infund popped up to throw votes on Caller? I say we wait to see if Nikon's nuke is real. Should assume it the nuke post will let us know if his nuke protection is burned up, right LMNOP? =D And...I'll retaliate on Abenson if necessary, which will allow him to retaliate on me....I love life sometimes. | ||
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~OpZ~
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On April 04 2010 00:32 haster27 wrote: Also, Abenson. What the hell? Are you serious? Contingency planning. It serves a nice little purpose. I'll hold the nukes for now, he'll hold them in a minute, ect. ect. ect. Ya dig? | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
WE WILL HAVE DISCUSSION TODAY WHETHER YOU GUYS LIKE IT OR NOT MAFIA. | ||
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haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
On April 04 2010 01:44 ~OpZ~ wrote: Contingency planning. It serves a nice little purpose. I'll hold the nukes for now, he'll hold them in a minute, ect. ect. ect. Ya dig? So the Abenson nuke was just used to extend the day, if I am understanding it correctly? | ||
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haster27
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Elemenope
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
On April 04 2010 01:41 ~OpZ~ wrote: Did also notice how both haster and infund popped up to throw votes on Caller? I say we wait to see if Nikon's nuke is real. Should assume it the nuke post will let us know if his nuke protection is burned up, right LMNOP? =D And...I'll retaliate on Abenson if necessary, which will allow him to retaliate on me....I love life sometimes. Haster has claimed vanilla townie, I don't believe infund has claimed unless I missed it. Though I am a bit curious as to why Haster has voted for Caller. Haster has posted that he would vote for Caller if he didn't post his night action, and he did, and then he proceeds to vote for him anyway once he got back from work/school/whatever it was, citing that caller is lurking. If we assume that his claim is legitimate, all we have is that meeple turned up scum, which makes Caller insane or paranoid. D3 turned up scum, which still makes Caller insane or paranoid and we don't know the alignment of d3. We can't really fault Caller for lack of information from night actions; though I am a bit curious as to why he chose d3 instead of Opz or Abenson. If, haster, you feel that Caller isn't an alignment cop though, then that's a legitimate issue. As for infund, I'd like to hear a claim. Same with JeeJee and d3. Unless I missed any of these three claims somewhere in the thread. | ||
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haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
Before nuking I gave all my nukes to ~OpZ~, so therefore the missile will do no harm. | ||
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Abenson
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
On April 02 2010 21:13 Abenson wrote: Alright I have an announcement: Someone stole nuke(s) from me They left behind coffee beens and used cocaine needles On April 04 2010 03:05 Abenson wrote: Alright, my nuke was used to extend the day and nothing else. Before nuking I gave all my nukes to ~OpZ~, so therefore the missile will do no harm. What If Caller were to check opz/abenson, I don't see what the point would be, if your town you would be red, if hes paranoid you would be red. The only way too see if he is insane is if he checks a mafia, right? I think we should give him another day or two and see what happens, and lynch someone else today. And the way my role PM was worded makes me believe that a fake nuke will not use up my nuke protection. | ||
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