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##Vote Caller
Yo...we shoulda asked him for a list of suspects yesterday.
He hasn't claimed inactivity at all. They are probably organizing a way to role claim that wont force them into the complete open. Caller...If you want to prove your innocence, it is time to pick up the pace.
LMNOP? No thoughts. I figured Fishball would be role blocked. He will probably be killed tonight. Nikon claiming to be bussed kind of seems important. Supports caller's story from yesterday, yes? Caller said he got bussed from Nikon to Meeple...Nikon lived, Meeple got hit.
Third party wanna come forward and survive for the rest of the game by the towns will? You can be our vigi, yes yes?
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Also...I'm all for killing D3 and Nemy....Start adding some content and being inactive.
d3, I understand you are saying your going to Italy...You should of roleclaimed before then.
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Just dropping in to say I checked d3_crescentia last night...
He flipped scum, which, assuming I'm insane and not paranoid, means that he's not scum.
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Countess needs to drop vex runes imo
Anyway, I check the thread and see that there have only been a few people posting which is pretty bad considering this day is very important.
I’m a townie with no special abilities from Vietnam.
This is the current state of the game
These players are dead:
1. RebirthofLegend - vengeful townie
2. johnnyspazz - townie
3. L -medic
4. PhrujbazBill Murray – One shot day doc
5. tree.hugger - townie
6. Amber[LighT] -townie
7. Meeple – Ambiguous cop
8. Zona - Vigilante
9. Xelin – Boogie man [?]
10. Versatile – Townie
Now, roles that have been mentioned but nobody has claimed:
Roleblocker
Nuke-stealer
Bus driver
Serial Killer
This isn’t to say the roles are mutually exclusive, but just haven’t been claimed.
Filling in the gaps with players and their claims:
1. d3_crescentia
2. JeeJee
3. ~Opz~ Mason
4. Caller Alignment Cop
5. haster27 Townie
6. Elemenope Townie
7. iNfuNdiBuLuM
8. Fishball Tracker
9. Iaaan Nuke-resistance [Is there anything else that goes along with this or are you a townie otherwise?]
10. Nikon Veteran
11. Abenson Mason
12. Nemy Townie
If I missed either of d3’s, jeejee’s, infundibulum’s roleclaims, please say so; or if I misinterpreted anybody’s, correct me.
The nuke stealing ability
We currently have two victims of such, JeeJee and Abenson I believe. It is my belief that this ability is not town-aligned considering this is the second time this has happened, and nobody has claimed this ability thus far. If the person were truly town-aligned, we could use this person as a ToD-check to scum/third party nuke usage. But given the past two nights and usage of this nuke steal, it’s my opinion that this person is definitely scum or third party. If anybody can show or convince me otherwise, feel free.
The roleblocking ability
Given that Fishball was roleblocked and nobody else has claimed to be blocked yet during night 2, I’m to assume that there’s one of this role out there and this person is also anti-town. If the roleblocker was pro-town, Fishball should not have been blocked.
Bus Driver
I’m not so sure what to say of this role really. Nikon was targeted the first day, but then it was re-directed towards meeple. Nikon was then also targeted the second day, but he had veteran block to cover that. Given the first night, it seems quite anti, but given the second night, it may have been an honest mistake.
Serial Killer
It’s very clear that we have two night killing parties out there. Now, so far, the 4 people that have been targeted for night kills: meeple, amber, versatile, and Nikon. Out of these, Nikon has been the only one to survive due to being a veteran supposedly. I don’t believe we can determine which party hit which party, can we? Either way, it’s obvious that the SK is anti-town. However, we can use the SK in my opinion to our advantage.
If anybody has any input thus far, please say so and I’ll address them.
For my current plan
We still need a few more role claims, but I want people’s opinions on this tentative plan. Since we are down quite a few and have still not hit any scum, I want the Serial Killer to step forward and state who he hit the past two nights. This may seem a bit unorthodox but given the situation and following assumption that SKs lose instantly when scum outnumber town, I want to use the SK’s kills as second potential lynches instead of his/her’s target list so that we don’t increase ToD any further using nukes and then having a nuke rush or something like that to force a draw.
Another reason I want to do this is because it’ll determine what I’ve been wondering since someone brought it up since the start of the game: are there actually any mafia? I want to determine the amount of SKs we have, whether it’s one SK and we have a scum party or we have two SKs and no scum party. 10 people have died so far, and scum KP has been said to be 1, regardless of how many are alive. SK KP can be also assumed as one given that the SK is by himself. Is it possible that Ace has included two SKs and no scum actually?
I’ve been thinking about this because we lost our vigilante thus we only have two methods to kill any scum now: lynches and nukes. We are already at moderate with the nukes, sitting at 5 nukes. As a result, nuking isn’t as legitimate an option anymore in my opinion, especially given our track record and the fact that we have no scum hit at all via nukes, lynches, and night kills by SK(s). If we are to assume that there are a team of scum doing these night hits in addition to an SK, then we have a good chance of actually killing someone with a nuke, but if there are no scum and it’s just two SKs, then our chances go down drastically. We have 12 players left, and if there are in fact two SKs, then chances are we’re going to hit one of our own again, so we’ll most likely just end up losing a townie and raising ToD higher again. Same deal with the lynches even, just without the ToD increase.
Overall
I’d like to hear more about this plan, and any opinions of it. I already know a potential downside to it which I won’t elect to mention until after I get more input or if the SK(s) speak up.
As for claims:
Nemy’s doesn’t strike me as anything major, unless he meant something else when saying ‘townie’. Though I’d really prefer he participate more or at least say something. I’m still a bit suspicious of him quite honestly.
Nikon being veteran, unless someone can make a counterclaim or of some such, I can’t find any hole in this.
Haster being town. I can’t put my finger on it, but something just doesn’t feel right with this. I’ll have to go back to previous posts and see something because I think something you said previously gave me a vibe that you weren’t of the townie role. But I can’t say anything at the moment that this claim is bullshit or anything. Perhaps later.
I already said what I said about fishball and caller.
Current nuke situation
I don’t want this to be shot down quite honestly for two reasons: we should save any remaining antinukes we have in case some stupid nuke-rush-for-draw crap happens, and the fact that Iaaan said he was fine if a nuke was shot at him. If this nuke lands, I believe it’ll go to the next stage at 6 nukes unless I miscounted, and we’ll see if Iaaan’s claim about his power is true or not. Although it won’t give us insight into Nikon’s first nuke viability against Zona, it’ll also show us that Nikon isn’t the nuke-stealer going around which helps us somewhat.
As for Caller’s check on d3, I feel it’s something to keep in mind, though I don’t necessarily think it should be trusted as readily at the moment.
If I missed anybody’s role claim or misinterpreted your roleclaim, please say so. Also, again, I want people’s opinions on the SK plan. We haven’t hit anybody yet with any nukes or lynches which starts to worry me that perhaps there isn’t any scum at all and it’s just two SKs. If anybody has any input or criticism on this plan, please state it.
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A few things:
First, nikon says his nuke is fake. Either way, doesn't really matter.
Next, it seems like the serial killer has targetted Nikon 2 days in a row. Nikon has been a suspect, so maybe that suggests that the SK is somehow on the towns side. On the flipside of having 2 serial killers, the mafia could have 2 KP (Ace wasn't clear on this), although I think it is most likely that there are town, mafia, and a third party.
So the way I see it, if the SK is town aligned, he can help us by killing suspects without revealing himself/getting killed by mafia. If there are two serial killers hunting for each other, that could be supported by the night hits, amber, nikonx2, and verse, they have all been reasonable suspects to be mafia (maybe not verse as much), no one who seems really pro town has been hit so far.
But that said, I think the most likely set up is 3/4 mafia, 1 roleblocker 1 nuke stealer, then a SK. The bus driver's switch on meeple/nikon was just be chance. If we assume that the nuke stealer role is anti town, then from that is makes sense that Jeejee (and abenson) are also town.
Last, a solid roleclaim from me, I was being ambiguous before, I am Antarctica, a veteran. My powers are 1 extra life against nukes, and 1 extra life against night hits. This makes me suspicious of nikon still, if we are both veterans, why are our roles different? I asked him a little bit about his role on the last page, from what he has said it doesn't sound like he has an extra life against nukes.
With Caller, I think that we shouldn't lynch him today. See what happens with his check tmrw. We also shouldn't lynch d3 on the chance that Caller is an insane cop, however on the off chance he does die/flip red, it suggests that d3 is red as well.
So all that said, the best person to lynch is Nemy, I don't think there is any chance of him being active, any reason that the mafia would want to kill him, or anyway to show that he is a townie.
##vote nemy##
Who knows, maybe there aren't actually any mafia after all. lol. or maybe the mafia are giggling that we think they might not even exsist o.o
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On April 03 2010 13:50 Iaaan wrote:
Last, a solid roleclaim from me, I was being ambiguous before, I am Antarctica, a veteran. My powers are 1 extra life against nukes, and 1 extra life against night hits. This makes me suspicious of nikon still, if we are both veterans, why are our roles different? I asked him a little bit about his role on the last page, from what he has said it doesn't sound like he has an extra life against nukes.
This is interesting, and from this, only one thing comes to mind - though I'd like to hear Nikon's take about Iaaan claiming veteran before coming to a decision.
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Nikon launches a nuke at Iaaan that will land 6:50KST on April 4th!
With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch!
Caller(2)
Abenson
~Opz~
nemy(1)
Iaaan
Nukes in the air: 1
Nukes detonated: 5
Radiation levels: moderate
Day 3 currently ends Sunday April 4th 12AM ET, 13:00 KST
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On April 03 2010 17:02 Elemenope wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 13:50 Iaaan wrote:
Last, a solid roleclaim from me, I was being ambiguous before, I am Antarctica, a veteran. My powers are 1 extra life against nukes, and 1 extra life against night hits. This makes me suspicious of nikon still, if we are both veterans, why are our roles different? I asked him a little bit about his role on the last page, from what he has said it doesn't sound like he has an extra life against nukes. This is interesting, and from this, only one thing comes to mind - though I'd like to hear Nikon's take about Iaaan claiming veteran before coming to a decision.
Well, it would make sense to have more than one Veteran in a setup where there are multiple parties that can nightkill...
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Why would you vote for nemy?
I think we should focus on killing the mafia first, as inactive townies are not very useful and won't help or benefit us either way. I think we should focus on killing the mafia first, and the "mafia", in my opinion, is Caller.
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On April 03 2010 20:05 Nikon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 17:02 Elemenope wrote:On April 03 2010 13:50 Iaaan wrote:
Last, a solid roleclaim from me, I was being ambiguous before, I am Antarctica, a veteran. My powers are 1 extra life against nukes, and 1 extra life against night hits. This makes me suspicious of nikon still, if we are both veterans, why are our roles different? I asked him a little bit about his role on the last page, from what he has said it doesn't sound like he has an extra life against nukes. This is interesting, and from this, only one thing comes to mind - though I'd like to hear Nikon's take about Iaaan claiming veteran before coming to a decision. Well, it would make sense to have more than one Veteran in a setup where there are multiple parties that can nightkill...
You seem to be confused. I'm not interested about the fact that there are multiple people role claiming as 'Veteran'. What I'm more interested about is the fact that these same two roles have different abilities, yet you seem to be fine with this.
We have you who claimed to be hit during the night, yet you are wondering if Iaaan's claim of a free nuke block during the day is true or not, going so far as to launch a nuke at him. Yet Iaaan is also claiming to be a veteran with a free nuke block and a free night hit block, and you don't find this surprising even when he roleclaimed the same role as you?
You seem quite casual about this and I can only guess that due to the difference of abilities of the same claimed roles:
One or both of you are lying about your roleclaims.
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O yea, @Caller
Gratz on wraith
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On April 03 2010 11:23 Caller wrote:
Just dropping in to say I checked d3_crescentia last night...
He flipped scum, which, assuming I'm insane and not paranoid, means that he's not scum.
I believe we told you to check a confirmed townie, such as myself...
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On April 03 2010 19:12 Ace wrote:
Nikon launches a nuke at Iaaan that will land 6:50KST on April 4th!
With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch!
Caller(2)
Abenson
~Opz~
nemy(1)
Iaaan
Nukes in the air: 1
Nukes detonated: 5
Radiation levels: moderate
Day 3 currently ends 6:50 KST April 4th!
You don't declare countries when you nuke anymore? =(
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I never have except when it was North Korea.
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holy fuck shit Ace you replied fast....Lol....Okay...
You flamewheel lightning speed now?
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No I'm just awake now. I was asleep all this time ^_^
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As far as it comes to....I believe Iaaan's Role Claim over Nikons....
I also feel Ace pretty much
A)Gave everyone a role
B)If Vanilla Townie, gave out nukes galore.
I also further disbelieve Caller's claim.
SK...If your win condition prevents you from stepping forward....Then okay...But if you win just by lasting....Wouldn't you like to be instrumental in a big ass come back? Become our Vigi. If you have an extra night life, mafia can't waste time hitting you.
Are there no medics out there?
Two vet claims with differing roles abilities. Iaaan's make sense given the set up. Ace like's his crazy abilities. Iaaan was screaming pro-town early game. He only came suspicious when L was about to die imo. Well...Maybe the whole letting everyone explode when the nuke fest was happening was a bit of a downer on his town-ness.
-_-
Xelin...God dammit. -_-....I knew Zona had a good role. -_-....
No more vigi's out there?
I am pro LMNOP's plan.
I will have nuke's launched to extend the day if it comes to it.
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On April 03 2010 21:33 Ace wrote:
No I'm just awake now. I was asleep all this time ^_^
"Day 3 currently ends Sunday April 4th 12AM ET, 13:00 KST"
Time change, why?
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Oh oops I see. It should still be Sunday 12AM ET, my bad.
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I saved him (Zona) the first time, but he died in the end T.T
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