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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 04 2010 00:17 GMT
#1801
alright
so when's next eta for next nuke
when's current day end
come on be a mod
else ill ##vote ace
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
April 04 2010 00:20 GMT
#1802
Alright: To clarify
I gave all my nukes to ~OpZ~ before night fell, before Columbia attacked me
Therefore at the time of the robbery, I had 0 nukes
Columbia robbed me, got nothing.
~OpZ~ Still have my nukes :O
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
April 04 2010 00:59 GMT
#1803
Wow, Ace is being uncharacteristically lazy.
The day ends at April 04 23:27 KST.

This is a roleclaim situation -> blue/green colour means confirmed.

d3_crescentia ??? ???
JeeJee ??? ???
~OpZ~ Canada Mason
Caller Egypt Alignment Cop
haster27 Portugal Townie
Elemenope Vietnam Townie
iNfuNdiBuLuM China Townie (only allowed to counter-nuke)
Fishball France Tracker
laaan Antarctica Veteran
Nikon ??? Veteran
Abenson United Kingdom Mason
nemY ??? Townie

Unclaimed country
Japan
Sweden
Colombia

Unclaimed Roles
Roleblocker
Nuke-stealer (Colombia)
Bus driver
Serial Killer

Major Suspects
Caller - epic inactivity
laaan/Nikon - conflicting testimonies about Veteran ability.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 04 2010 01:31 GMT
#1804
Ace, I have one nuke to launch, and a retaliatory strike still, yes yes?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 04 2010 01:40 GMT
#1805
On April 04 2010 03:29 Iaaan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2010 21:13 Abenson wrote:
Alright
I have an announcement:
Someone stole nuke(s) from me
They left behind coffee beens and used cocaine needles



Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 03:05 Abenson wrote:
Alright, my nuke was used to extend the day and nothing else.
Before nuking I gave all my nukes to ~OpZ~, so therefore the missile will do no harm.


What



If Caller were to check opz/abenson, I don't see what the point would be, if your town you would be red, if hes paranoid you would be red. The only way too see if he is insane is if he checks a mafia, right? I think we should give him another day or two and see what happens, and lynch someone else today.

And the way my role PM was worded makes me believe that a fake nuke will not use up my nuke protection.


I already had all the nukes because I'm more active. He was just bitching about getting "robbed." I think the coffee beans and cocaine needles is a pretty clear indicator it happened.

Pretty simple to ascertain as to why I had the nukes in the first place. My activity is pretty much a shit ton more than Abensons...

Ya dig? He can only give them to me if he's on, so I usually hold them over (actual) night and during the (actual) morning. Atleast since the nuke thief popped up. I was wondering why we had this ability to begin with Lol.

I also don't think the nuke is fake Iaaan. And I want more discussion, so me and Abenson will extend the day as indefinitely as I feel necessary.

Japan. Step forward now. That is another thing I have against Caller. He was saved by Japan, and Japan has yet to step forward. Damn you Tree.Hugger for saying those with anti-nukes not step forward. Japan is mafia if Caller is mafia. Someone who Role Claimed is lying. JeeJee, Abenson, and I will all extend the day. I'm going to swap my nukes, Nuke JeeJee, JeeJee will nuke Abenson, and Abenson will swap, then nuke me again, and I will swap and nuke him.

Fun fun. Another 23:59X4.

Plenty of days for you all that haven't of claimed to be dead.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 04 2010 01:41 GMT
#1806
Also, JeeJee, nuke fell. You claim now. Yes yes?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 04 2010 01:42 GMT
#1807
oh wait, x5, JeeJee will have a retaliatory strike once I nuke him....Very nice.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
April 04 2010 01:58 GMT
#1808
Wait, you are nuking JeeJee? Why?
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
April 04 2010 01:58 GMT
#1809
Oh okay. Got it.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 04 2010 03:13 GMT
#1810
sup guys
i'm italy
i have two nukes
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
April 04 2010 03:18 GMT
#1811
Thank you. However, people, do not reveal how much nuke you have. Seriously, there are now two fresh people the nuke-stealer can target.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 04 2010 03:22 GMT
#1812
haha can you tell i've been paying close attention to this game? (sarcasm)
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 04 2010 03:43 GMT
#1813
god the inactivity is mindnumbingly terrible. we're about to fucking lose and nobody's talking.
##vote:nemy

stop hiding asshole
start talking
you in particular are being so useless it's pissing me off
what's your opinion on the current situation?
what do you think of iaaan nikon duo?
is one of them mafia? if so which one? if not why not?
what do you think about caller? should he be lynched?
should we fire off any (real) nukes at suspects? note, if we mislynch we're fucked but if we mislynch but hit nuke, we're still kinda in the running, depending on mafia #s
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
April 04 2010 03:58 GMT
#1814
On April 04 2010 01:15 Elemenope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 00:21 Nikon wrote:
On April 03 2010 20:27 Elemenope wrote:
On April 03 2010 20:05 Nikon wrote:
On April 03 2010 17:02 Elemenope wrote:
On April 03 2010 13:50 Iaaan wrote:
Last, a solid roleclaim from me, I was being ambiguous before, I am Antarctica, a veteran. My powers are 1 extra life against nukes, and 1 extra life against night hits. This makes me suspicious of nikon still, if we are both veterans, why are our roles different? I asked him a little bit about his role on the last page, from what he has said it doesn't sound like he has an extra life against nukes.


This is interesting, and from this, only one thing comes to mind - though I'd like to hear Nikon's take about Iaaan claiming veteran before coming to a decision.


Well, it would make sense to have more than one Veteran in a setup where there are multiple parties that can nightkill...



You seem to be confused. I'm not interested about the fact that there are multiple people role claiming as 'Veteran'. What I'm more interested about is the fact that these same two roles have different abilities, yet you seem to be fine with this.

We have you who claimed to be hit during the night, yet you are wondering if Iaaan's claim of a free nuke block during the day is true or not, going so far as to launch a nuke at him. Yet Iaaan is also claiming to be a veteran with a free nuke block and a free night hit block, and you don't find this surprising even when he roleclaimed the same role as you?

You seem quite casual about this and I can only guess that due to the difference of abilities of the same claimed roles:
One or both of you are lying about your roleclaims.


Yeah, except that laaan said that he will survive nukes yesterday, and I nuked him before he claimed veteran. You assume we have different abilities because he's assuming so, based on information I said I want to withhold.


What was the point in nuking him? Let's assume these things:
A) You are a veteran
B) Veteran ability entails a free night hit which is standard, but not as standard: a free nuke hit
C) Nobody mentions that they are immune to a single nuke hit until Iaaan mentions it

Given these three things, you still launch a nuke at Iaaan when only B is something Veterans could know. Iaaan could've guessed the ability, thinking it makes sense given that given that nukes are in the hands of 22 people, somebody ought to have nuke protection, even if it is a one-shot ability; however, the chance of this is very slim in my eyes, especially coupled with the fact that he says
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2010 06:46 Iaaan wrote:
On April 03 2010 01:37 Nikon wrote:
I am a Veteran. I took a hit last night.

With that out of the way - laaan, if I nuke you, do you think it will hit?


It will hit, but it wont kill me. Do you have nuke protection to? and are you arctica?


in response to you role claiming Veteran. He clearly says that veterans also have a one-shot day nuke protection. Yet you go ahead and nuke him and choose to withhold your capabilities even while roleclaiming? You realize the problem with this, right?

On top of this, you claim that your missile is fake which accomplishes absolutely nothing in terms of confirming whether Iaaan is truly veteran or not as his ability, which you should know, blocks a nuke hit because, as Iaaan puts it which you are also implying by not denying the fact that veterans have a one-shot nuke protection, it gives an extra life against nukes which means an actual nuke has to hit.

Because of this, your only purpose in sending that nuke is to accomplish one of two things:
A) Burn up an antinuke which you did so well with your first nuke, or
B) Burn up a veteran's extra nuke protection

Both of which do not help the town at all.

So perhaps you could explain why you thought that someone stating he possesses an ability that hasn't been mentioned by anybody until then which somehow conveniently matches your ability would deserve a nuke in order to prove this ability? If he's not veteran: congratulations, you probably killed scum since he lied, but this means you also lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If he is veteran: you burned his day protection and you lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If your missile is a dud: you accomplished nothing at all in terms of extra information for the town and we have no confirmation of your first missile.

What was really going through your mind when you decided to nuke Iaaan?


Nuke me to find out.
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
April 04 2010 04:04 GMT
#1815
On April 04 2010 12:58 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 01:15 Elemenope wrote:
On April 04 2010 00:21 Nikon wrote:
On April 03 2010 20:27 Elemenope wrote:
On April 03 2010 20:05 Nikon wrote:
On April 03 2010 17:02 Elemenope wrote:
On April 03 2010 13:50 Iaaan wrote:
Last, a solid roleclaim from me, I was being ambiguous before, I am Antarctica, a veteran. My powers are 1 extra life against nukes, and 1 extra life against night hits. This makes me suspicious of nikon still, if we are both veterans, why are our roles different? I asked him a little bit about his role on the last page, from what he has said it doesn't sound like he has an extra life against nukes.


This is interesting, and from this, only one thing comes to mind - though I'd like to hear Nikon's take about Iaaan claiming veteran before coming to a decision.


Well, it would make sense to have more than one Veteran in a setup where there are multiple parties that can nightkill...



You seem to be confused. I'm not interested about the fact that there are multiple people role claiming as 'Veteran'. What I'm more interested about is the fact that these same two roles have different abilities, yet you seem to be fine with this.

We have you who claimed to be hit during the night, yet you are wondering if Iaaan's claim of a free nuke block during the day is true or not, going so far as to launch a nuke at him. Yet Iaaan is also claiming to be a veteran with a free nuke block and a free night hit block, and you don't find this surprising even when he roleclaimed the same role as you?

You seem quite casual about this and I can only guess that due to the difference of abilities of the same claimed roles:
One or both of you are lying about your roleclaims.


Yeah, except that laaan said that he will survive nukes yesterday, and I nuked him before he claimed veteran. You assume we have different abilities because he's assuming so, based on information I said I want to withhold.


What was the point in nuking him? Let's assume these things:
A) You are a veteran
B) Veteran ability entails a free night hit which is standard, but not as standard: a free nuke hit
C) Nobody mentions that they are immune to a single nuke hit until Iaaan mentions it

Given these three things, you still launch a nuke at Iaaan when only B is something Veterans could know. Iaaan could've guessed the ability, thinking it makes sense given that given that nukes are in the hands of 22 people, somebody ought to have nuke protection, even if it is a one-shot ability; however, the chance of this is very slim in my eyes, especially coupled with the fact that he says
On April 03 2010 06:46 Iaaan wrote:
On April 03 2010 01:37 Nikon wrote:
I am a Veteran. I took a hit last night.

With that out of the way - laaan, if I nuke you, do you think it will hit?


It will hit, but it wont kill me. Do you have nuke protection to? and are you arctica?


in response to you role claiming Veteran. He clearly says that veterans also have a one-shot day nuke protection. Yet you go ahead and nuke him and choose to withhold your capabilities even while roleclaiming? You realize the problem with this, right?

On top of this, you claim that your missile is fake which accomplishes absolutely nothing in terms of confirming whether Iaaan is truly veteran or not as his ability, which you should know, blocks a nuke hit because, as Iaaan puts it which you are also implying by not denying the fact that veterans have a one-shot nuke protection, it gives an extra life against nukes which means an actual nuke has to hit.

Because of this, your only purpose in sending that nuke is to accomplish one of two things:
A) Burn up an antinuke which you did so well with your first nuke, or
B) Burn up a veteran's extra nuke protection

Both of which do not help the town at all.

So perhaps you could explain why you thought that someone stating he possesses an ability that hasn't been mentioned by anybody until then which somehow conveniently matches your ability would deserve a nuke in order to prove this ability? If he's not veteran: congratulations, you probably killed scum since he lied, but this means you also lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If he is veteran: you burned his day protection and you lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If your missile is a dud: you accomplished nothing at all in terms of extra information for the town and we have no confirmation of your first missile.

What was really going through your mind when you decided to nuke Iaaan?


Nuke me to find out.


Nice explanation on why you nuked Iaaan with a fake nuke.
In DotA you could
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 04 2010 04:07 GMT
#1816
On April 04 2010 12:43 JeeJee wrote:
god the inactivity is mindnumbingly terrible. we're about to fucking lose and nobody's talking.
##vote:nemy

stop hiding asshole
start talking
you in particular are being so useless it's pissing me off
what's your opinion on the current situation?
what do you think of iaaan nikon duo?
is one of them mafia? if so which one? if not why not?
what do you think about caller? should he be lynched?
should we fire off any (real) nukes at suspects? note, if we mislynch we're fucked but if we mislynch but hit nuke, we're still kinda in the running, depending on mafia #s


we should lynch caller; he's been a suspect what the entire game and somehow he still isn't dead?

##vote caller
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 04 2010 04:41 GMT
#1817
fair enough
what's your take on his roleclaim? if you believe it why are you lynching a cop? if you don't, why not?
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
April 04 2010 07:08 GMT
#1818
God this game needs to not be dead...
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
April 04 2010 07:24 GMT
#1819
my thoughts:
I agree with everything jeejee says except the fact that he suspects me

we should lynch nemy for the lolz

we should nuke nikon, he doesn't have any nukes to counter nuke if he is mafia and if he is a veteran he wont die anyway.

Jeejee and d3 should roleclaim so we can fill in the spots on hasters list and start seeing who is lying.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 04 2010 07:47 GMT
#1820
On April 04 2010 13:41 JeeJee wrote:
fair enough
what's your take on his roleclaim? if you believe it why are you lynching a cop? if you don't, why not?


I don't believe he is a cop, because frankly anybody can say whatever they want here and not be verified, correct? Caller only shows up in times of dire situation for himself (ie: he's about to be lynched) and then he goes back to... whatever it is he's doing

when are you going to r/c jeejee?
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